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Commander Wolff
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.02.22 22:48:00 -
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Ok.. i love this game.. seriously.. i spend all my time here, devour it for what it is,and indulge on evertyhing it has to offer.
But Why oh why does the game have a fault so obvious dimbwittet its almost hilliarous and...deliberate?
I know the game is to be HARD. i dont mind that -but why.. does it have to be stoopid?
MINING CYCLES! my dear friends - @ 3...? minutes for a stripminer? are you nuts?
Had an error just now - the cycle took thirty seconds and it Was AWSOME! -Made me filled with greed and prospects of making millions a minute.. =D it was FANTASTIC.
WHy...? are you wasting my time, peoples time, your time, and scarrying people away from the game, who would otherwise jump right in, if your cycles was 1/10'th of the three minutes you waste by a standard mining here?
Besides that, theres the economic Aspect - imagine a an EVE with 10 X the accessability of ship in the markets? seriously? PVP'ers would have a field day, 10x the targets, industrialists would have 10x the yield, people would have FUN and YOU, dear CCP, would have people in stampeeds to join your game.
Why.. have you made mining cycles that ridicously stoopidly slow????
CW |
Danel Tosh
EVE Protection Agency Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2012.02.22 22:58:00 -
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someone has been drinking too much caffine. you dont take into account the skill times that would limmit lower skilled pilots to smaller ships wihle vets get unlimited supply of titans. effectively it would kill off the lower SP pilots and fix null into titan's only battlefield. New eden would die off in a few years all because of your own selfish greed. Shame on you! |
Commander Wolff
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.02.22 23:06:00 -
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Danel Tosh wrote:someone has been drinking too much caffine. you dont take into account the skill times that would limmit lower skilled pilots to smaller ships wihle vets get unlimited supply of titans. effectively it would kill off the lower SP pilots and fix null into titan's only battlefield. New eden would die off in a few years all because of your own selfish greed. Shame on you!
Your dumb as feck arent you?
If thats an issue.. seriously, if "Access to titans" is the real issue.. or even caps in general.. fecking make the requirements for building em even more insane..
And speaking of dumb as feck.. what does 2 years of hard SP training do for the same issue?
Get a life, and focus on the benefits here.
Shame on you man for, being obtuse on purpose.
CW |
James Amril-Kesh
Interstellar Faction 21
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Posted - 2012.02.22 23:09:00 -
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Can we just ban these stupid "I want billions without working for it" threads? Support showing T2 and faction frequency crystal damage in the info window! |
Commander Wolff
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.02.22 23:13:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Can we just ban these stupid "I want billions without working for it" threads?
No. we cant.
And if we have to, you better start making points as to why.
Because you seriously seem to be missing the whole f*cking point: The game will change, yes, but only with more options, more accessability and more FUN!
CW
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mxzf
Shovel Bros
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Posted - 2012.02.22 23:15:00 -
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o.O 3 min is not 10x 30 seconds, it's 6x. Please go back to first grade math before posting on here. kthxbye
Oh, and your entire post was horribly thought out and non-nonsensical, but the epic math failure made me lol. |
Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
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Posted - 2012.02.22 23:17:00 -
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There are already plenty of ships available on the market. All this change would do is saturate the market with low end ore and make a miners income even less than it is now.
And even if Cruisers were 5isk each, many still wouldn't PvP (combat) because they don't want to. |
James Amril-Kesh
Interstellar Faction 21
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Posted - 2012.02.22 23:17:00 -
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Commander Wolff wrote:Because you seriously seem to be missing the whole f*cking point: The game will change, yes, but only with more options, more accessability and more FUN! I think we can all agree that it should be this way, yes. We don't agree on what more options, more accessibility, and more fun means. It certainly doesn't mean free ISK. Go play on SiSi. Support showing T2 and faction frequency crystal damage in the info window! |
Commander Wolff
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.02.22 23:25:00 -
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mxzf wrote:o.O 3 min is not 10x 30 seconds, it's 6x. Please go back to first grade math before posting on here. kthxbye
Oh, and your entire post was horribly thought out and non-nonsensical, but the epic math failure made me lol.
yearh.. and you are obvouisly such a genius to see the whole point rely's on those numbers -christ - LOOK at what it does to the game ffs - Seriously - Do you realize how BORING the mining is at 3 minutes a cycle? And do you Realize how FANTASTIC scrubbing up a feckton of wealth is,when you do it fast?
This is a GAME, for crying out loud - and even tho Sh1ts like yourself live to feck up people and make their day miserable, the GAME can provide MORE then the satisfaction of overcomming the odds -It is FUN to feel ******* rich, to make a ******* ton of millions WITHOUT having tos pend ******* 24 hours doing it!!
Besides, why are PVP'ers the only one who's entiteled to a rush? - the game can be an emotional rush of magnitude, but it isnt, for some ******* godforsaken reason, and neanderthals ( bright or not ) like yourself, certainly isnt helping in the develpment of it.
So take your IQ, shove it, or start using it.
CW. |
James Amril-Kesh
Interstellar Faction 21
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Posted - 2012.02.22 23:28:00 -
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You do realize that writing like that isn't going to win anyone to your cause, right? I mean not that your cause has much to go on anyway, but it's something to remember in the future. Support showing T2 and faction frequency crystal damage in the info window! |
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mxzf
Shovel Bros
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Posted - 2012.02.22 23:33:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:You do realize that writing like that isn't going to win anyone to your cause, right? I mean not that your cause has much to go on anyway, but it's something to remember in the future.
This. The problem is that the OP doesn't realize that this is a MMO game. Meaning that more money for one person means more money for everyone, meaning that the "more money" that they're making is worth half of what it was before.
And it's actually quite easy to get loads of ISK without having to work hard at it, you just have to be smart. I've got billions sitting around that I'm not really doing anything with right now, not because I spent thousands of hours grinding away at rocks, but because I went out and did something I enjoyed and can make tons of ISK doing it.
tl;dr: Play smarter and don't whine that you're poor because you're doing what amounts to minimum-wage work in the game. |
Commander Wolff
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.02.22 23:37:00 -
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Corina Jarr wrote:There are already plenty of ships available on the market. All this change would do is saturate the market with low end ore and make a miners income even less than it is now.
And even if Cruisers were 5isk each, many still wouldn't PvP (combat) because they don't want to.
And increase PVP, for everyone, give higher access to ships, make every1 feel RICH! ( never underestimate the power of the kick from a full wallet. ) make EVE less demanding, yes, but also provide sanity in everything thats being done: PVP would, as said, increase, as more would dare it, and ships would suddenly be replaceable and thus more fights would occur, and the REALchallenge of the PVP endevour, would be SKILL instead of 10 Vs. 1 gankteams ( because noone otherwise dares to enter low/0.0 )
And further, being an industrialist suddenly wouldnt be nieche for for undefined wing of the human species, but suddenly have a motivation EMOTIONALLY for being done. Along. with the fact that you can suddenly make X times the ships per production, and thus FEEL rich and POWERFULL.
If these words are both unfamiliar to them ( speaking of the general audience here ) and unable to relate to them: They are good, and CREATES INCITEMENT TO PLAY ( also for even more players, who'd otherwise never make it in this game. )
Tradition is, tradition must change.
Thnx
DW |
Commander Wolff
War Tribe
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Posted - 2012.02.22 23:46:00 -
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mxzf wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:You do realize that writing like that isn't going to win anyone to your cause, right? I mean not that your cause has much to go on anyway, but it's something to remember in the future. This. The problem is that the OP doesn't realize that this is a MMO game. Meaning that more money for one person means more money for everyone, meaning that the "more money" that they're making is worth half of what it was before. And it's actually quite easy to get loads of ISK without having to work hard at it, you just have to be smart. I've got billions sitting around that I'm not really doing anything with right now, not because I spent thousands of hours grinding away at rocks, but because I went out and did something I enjoyed and can make tons of ISK doing it. tl;dr: Play smarter and don't whine that you're poor because you're doing what amounts to minimum-wage work in the game.
yearh... but your still missing the point, like every1 else here: The game, can be BOTH hard, AND fun, for EVERYONE.
Why.. and seriously, answer me this, Why does EVE have to be for the elitists, only?
I understand the thrill of sitting on your throne, with allthe gifts you have, the education and the brightness, which..i seriously dont care that you do, its just life, but this proposal will basicly make YOUR options available FOR ALL, without you loosing an inch of your wealth, simply because the stuff you do will still be available and thus your nieche, what ever that is, will be unharmed, but MORE will have the same options, and more fresh blood will land in the game, Who ALSO gets to play ( and gets shots at ;) because the ships suddenly isnt 40 million and 7 days of slavery, but 3 million, and a few hours of mining, WHILE feeling great.
Is that so bad?
CW |
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance
416
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Posted - 2012.02.23 00:51:00 -
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Three things...
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Commander Wolff wrote: if "Access to titans" is the real issue.. or even caps in general.. fecking make the requirements for building em even more insane..
CCP did do that. It didn't work. The alliances just sent more of their peons out to do more mining and hauling. Now they are building capitals and supercapitals by the dozens.
2. Being able to mine more, at faster rates does not "make people rich." Quite the opposite. What it does is depreciate the value of minerals because there are MORE ores/minerals on the market (remember, the market is run by the players and CCP has little influence over it... supply vs. demand, yo). Will this make ships cheaper? Yes. Will this create more PvP? Debatable (unless you are giving ships away for practically free, a good chunk of people will still be too "risk-adverse" to put their ship in danger). Will this make mining less desirable as a profession because in order to make more money, you have to mine MORE (which is something that botters and massive alliances can easily do)? Absolutely.
3. Malcanis' Law: Any mechanic or buff given to newer, poorer players will invariably benefit of older, richer players more. "Just because I seem like an idiot, doesn't mean I am one." ~Unknown |
AFK Hauler
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.02.23 00:56:00 -
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INB4LOCK
This is an obvious troll thread because anyone who has played the game longer than the 3 min to cycle their first strip miner knows market balances. |
Danika Princip
Freelance Economics Astrological resources Tactical Narcotics Team
233
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Posted - 2012.02.23 00:56:00 -
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Commander Wolff wrote:Corina Jarr wrote:There are already plenty of ships available on the market. All this change would do is saturate the market with low end ore and make a miners income even less than it is now.
And even if Cruisers were 5isk each, many still wouldn't PvP (combat) because they don't want to. And increase PVP, for everyone, give higher access to ships, make every1 feel RICH! ( never underestimate the power of the kick from a full wallet. ) make EVE less demanding, yes, but also provide sanity in everything thats being done: PVP would, as said, increase, as more would dare it, and ships would suddenly be replaceable and thus more fights would occur, and the REALchallenge of the PVP endevour, would be SKILL instead of 10 Vs. 1 gankteams ( because noone otherwise dares to enter low/0.0 ) And further, being an industrialist suddenly wouldnt be nieche for for undefined wing of the human species, but suddenly have a motivation EMOTIONALLY for being done. Along. with the fact that you can suddenly make X times the ships per production, and thus FEEL rich and POWERFULL. If these words are both unfamiliar to you ( speaking of the general audience here ) and you are unable to relate to them: They are good, and CREATES INCITEMENT TO PLAY ( also for even more players, who'd otherwise never set foot, let alone make it in this game. ) Tradition is, tradition must change. Thnx DW
More ore on the market means you make less isk for selling it. Mining is already terrible isk/hr, the lower prices that result from slashing cycle times make it even worse. |
Gerrick Palivorn
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
145
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Posted - 2012.02.23 07:14:00 -
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Having isk in your wallet is not an incentive to PVP, many people just don't like it. Look at the hard core Incursion runners, they have huge fat wallets, enough to lose Shiny fit Faction Battleships everyday for a month and still have cash to buy a titan. The crazy thing about it is that they don't want to pvp, all that isk just sits there.
Take a hard look back at what everyone is telling you, sometimes when everyone tells you that you are wrong, it means that you are wrong. |
Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
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Posted - 2012.02.23 09:06:00 -
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I thought I would give this a quick bump so the UK people who have just got to work and are taking a look at the forums wont miss out on the hilarity and complete lack of understanding of Eve that the OPs suggestion shows.
I can actually hear the game balance facepalming itself from here in London!
Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. |
Serge Bastana
GWA Corp
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Posted - 2012.02.23 10:06:00 -
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Jint Hikaru wrote:I thought I would give this a quick bump so the UK people who have just got to work and are taking a look at the forums wont miss out on the hilarity and complete lack of understanding of Eve that the OPs suggestion shows.
I can actually hear the game balance facepalming itself from here in London!
You're actually quite close to the servers there, I'm up in the north east and I can hear it from here. I've been reading this thread for the past couple of days and I can't see any reasoned argument getting through the wall of cluelessness that is at work here.
WoW holds your hand until end game, and gives you a cookie whether you win or lose. EVE not only takes your cookie, but laughs at you for bringing one in the first place... |
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CCP Phantom
C C P C C P Alliance
1025
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Posted - 2012.02.23 11:27:00 -
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You are welcome to post constructive ideas. Discussions, even heated ones, are welcome too as long as they stay civil and on topic. Trolling, personal attacks and non-constructive posts are not allowed though.
Thread locked. CCP Phantom - German Community Coordinator |
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