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Driven
Mass Produced Venturi Starea
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Posted - 2008.03.25 22:10:00 -
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OK - so real life took me "out of town" for a couple of months and I finally log my jita alt on and discover Dysprosium has doubled from its already high price and Promethium has done likewise.
I have scanned thru the dev blogs and a little googling just to see what might be in the works.
You know, once invention was launched it effectively eliminated the monopoly of tech 2 BPOs. As someone who owns over 100 T2 BPOs I didn't mind because it made the playing field much more fair for everyone who wants to build.
It seems like when the price of a Cerb hit 225M ISK it was equally nutty as now Dys is at 80K. CCP rightfully did something about the T2 BPO monopoly.
Does anyone have any insight as to what CCP might have in store for eliminating the monopoly of scarce moon mins?
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Malar
HUN Corp. HUN Reloaded
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Posted - 2008.03.25 22:18:00 -
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Actually its not just the rarity of said minerals. The price boom started around the time when they nerfed the carriers so you can't really haul massive ammounts of stuff with them anymore.
This made logistics / maintaining a large POS network a lot harder, which in turn caused increased moon material prices.
I'm not an expert on the market but i do think that there is a relation between these two. A strong one. --------------------------------------------- *Comments in this post are mine and mine only* |
ghost st
The Scope
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Posted - 2008.03.25 22:22:00 -
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Jump Freighters were a real kick in the nuts for moon mins, before where you could not see any real supply/demnd issues due to lack of demand you now see that there are serious supply issues with some of the moon minerals. Hopefully ccp will now give us the t2 moon miners. And maybe a spattering of some of the more rare mins across the universe *cough* drone regions *cough*,
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
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Posted - 2008.03.25 22:50:00 -
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didnt pos jumpbridges also break further not helping the situation ?
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Anaine Naran
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.03.25 23:10:00 -
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It also probably has something to do with Goon moving into and disrupting BoB's mining operations. They had quite a few mining chains setup that have since been removed.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.03.25 23:30:00 -
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Vek NaVek
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.03.25 23:34:00 -
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Making billions a week is tough business, but when there is whining on the forums it means that everything is ok.
CCP made changes, nearly 4 months ago, and it all began from then. CCPs glacial response time to critical issues leads to very rich players, and I wouldn't mind but there was no mention of this market abboration in the QEN.
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Aprudend Gist
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.03.25 23:34:00 -
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Originally by: Anaine Naran It also probably has something to do with Goon moving into and disrupting BoB's mining operations. They had quite a few mining chains setup that have since been removed.
oh they were setup again but they are gouging people like they should.
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Merdaneth
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2008.03.25 23:39:00 -
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EVE is not a real economy.
In a real economy, people would try to find alternatives for scarce minerals, even going so far as designing new ships that do not require these expensive minerals, or inventing procedures that could extract scarce minerals more efficiently. If oil starts to get expensive, you bet that RL companies will invest in research for alternatives to oil.
In EVE, the economy cannot be innovative, as all innovation is driven by CCP. This means that any developing economy will always hit some artificial limit imposed by CCP at some point in time, and will continue to bounce around there until CCP makes a change, since the economy cannot find alternatives.
Of course CCP will realize this, and they will eventually make a change made to moon minerals, but only if the population of EVE keeps growing. ____
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Goumindong
Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.26 00:35:00 -
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Originally by: Aprudend Gist
Originally by: Anaine Naran It also probably has something to do with Goon moving into and disrupting BoB's mining operations. They had quite a few mining chains setup that have since been removed.
oh they were setup again but they are gouging people like they should.
The supply interruption was noticeable.
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Lady Natacha
Water and Power
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Posted - 2008.03.26 00:48:00 -
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To build 1 jump freighter requires approx 1.5 months of the racial carbide output of 1 POS, and approx 1/2 month of Sylramic Fibers production.
All in all, about 78days of POS complex reaction time is required to build just one jump freighter. Add to that the new Tech II BS that were added which also have large material requirements, the rising cost of isotopes (about 500-550/unit) and the 2 months after the Trinity patch where only rorquals were really able to haul things in/out of .0 space (carrier nerf) and you arrive at our present market conditions.
Summary: Everybody wants to build the new shiny stuff.
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Driven
Mass Produced Venturi Starea
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Posted - 2008.03.28 22:47:00 -
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I recall reading something a while back last Fall about moon "mud" mining where you could harvest small amounts of the 256 rares by going thru large amounts of moon "mud". I also read about the idea of being able to combine large amounts of low end moon mins thru some sort of "reactor" to make small amounts of the high end stuff.
Any comments or insights as to whether any of those rumors might be in the works? I need a sig |
Alski
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.28 22:58:00 -
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Originally by: ghost st *cough* drone regions *cough*
No ****, someone at CCP just have missed a digit when they were typeing the seeding code for the drone regions -
(combat) Patch belonging to CCP hits your drones, wrecking their liberty and freedom.
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000Hunter000
Missiles 'R' Us
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Posted - 2008.03.28 23:05:00 -
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the cartel forming has switched from T2 items to T2 components really, those moonmaterials are used in the construction of advanced materials which in turn are needed to construct T2 components which in turn are needed to make T2 items and ships.
With the adding of invention, the monopoly now lies with those corps/alliances that control the moons that produce these moonmaterials.
Personally i don't even think the owners of said moons do it on purpose, it's just a simple fact, u sell these materials, and find out there selling like hotcakes, so u ask some more and more and more and... well u get the idea.
T2 market is overheating tbh, everybody with any skill is going into invention cuz people still think T2 items are a goldmine, but eventually people will realize this is no longer the case.
If u wanna make some real dough, blow up that pos thats controlling that dysprosium moon and place ur own _______________________________________________________ CCP, let us pay the online shop with Direct Debit!!!
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Tamia Clant
New Dawn Corp New Eden Research
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Posted - 2008.03.28 23:24:00 -
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Originally by: 000Hunter000 With the adding of invention, the monopoly now lies with those corps/alliances that control the moons that produce these moonmaterials.
And this is exactly how it should be, in my opinion. The problem with T2 BPOs is that there was no way to disrupt production, as the blueprints were completely safe inside a station.
By having the focus on the moon materials, you don't have that problem, as you can always destroy the POS at the moon and place your own, assuming you have the fleet to do it.
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zzCoins
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Posted - 2008.03.29 12:33:00 -
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A Dev did post some ideas a while ago.
The most likly seemed to be a new type of reaction which allows less valuable moon minerals to be converted into the valuable ones. This would limit the price ratio between different minerals. |
Protrade
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Posted - 2008.03.29 14:39:00 -
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Originally by: zzCoins A Dev did post some ideas a while ago.
The most likly seemed to be a new type of reaction which allows less valuable moon minerals to be converted into the valuable ones. This would limit the price ratio between different minerals.
That would revolutionize the market and players would be forced to find the cheapest way to make materials. Too much of a drastic change for them to make it. Player's don't like to think. _____________________________________
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