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Gospadin
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
64
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Posted - 2013.09.27 03:04:00 -
[2011] - Quote
RAW23 wrote:CCP Navigator wrote: Q4, So you said earlier that SOMER Blink are trusted. Does that mean CCP is promising they will always deliver?
A4, Not at all. What I am saying is that to date they have been 100% trustful and we expect that will continue.
This is one of the most appalling things I have ever heard from a CCP representative. Trust is a marketable commodity in EVE and you are saying, in CCP's name, that this group has been trustworthy to date. Not only can you not possibly know that this is true but you are also giving them a unique 'CCP Audited' title when the reliability of in-game audits is something that is always open to question. Even if you could be certain that they have been 100% trustworthy up to this point you damn well shouldn't say so! Assessment of trustworthiness is a key in-game issue and CCP should have absolutely no part of it.
"they have been 100% trustful and we expect that will continue" is the basis of every scam, ever. |
Nobani
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
7
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Posted - 2013.09.27 03:57:00 -
[2012] - Quote
Steijn wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:We have a new comment on this from CCP Navigator. You can read it here. the changes dont go far enough, no profit making 3rd party should be able to generate more income from gifts given by CCP. In a nut shell, CCP are still giving SOMER Blink ISK, thats way out of line imo.
No third party should have items spawned for them by CCP, period. |
Robbin Sund
4
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Posted - 2013.09.27 07:52:00 -
[2013] - Quote
Just noticed one thing today, http://cogdev.net/blink/?act=profile&id=91039699 that user have won 4 promo blinks in one day! Impressive, whats the highest promos won in one day you guys have seen? (for 1 person) One way trip! Why dont you drive? |
Ona Bender
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2013.09.27 08:09:00 -
[2014] - Quote
Robbin Sund wrote:Just noticed ... that user have won 4 promo blinks in one day! ...
ha - I was just noticing that too. how does someone win 4 promos in a single day... I'm just ... some people win so many promos... please don't flip out - I'm not accusing blink or any particular user of anything - we're just discussing this awesome site we all love - as a customer paying my hard earned pretend space moneys to use your service, exactly how confident are you that there isn't some kind of vulnerability being exploited? |
Doomessa
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.09.27 08:14:00 -
[2015] - Quote
That's 4 wins in the last 50 promos run so quite lucky |
ArmyOfMe
Teddybears. Nocturnal Legion
168
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Posted - 2013.09.27 08:19:00 -
[2016] - Quote
Gilbaron wrote:can't you just make a gold punisher and a guardian Thorax ?
there is nothing wrong with giving out special ships, but you really should never re-use stuff like that :( this Jaden Adoudel > If I knew where you'd live I'd ******* blow your head off
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Deka Ekato
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2013.09.27 10:47:00 -
[2017] - Quote
At least the first 12 pages, ( 240 posts ), of this topic, (can't be bothered to go through 100 pages), are "people" praising SB.
OMG, how much, (fake), self promotion of, what is nothing more than a scam, does SB need to do? |
SKINE DMZ
Stay Frosty.
185
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Posted - 2013.09.27 12:43:00 -
[2018] - Quote
So that account wins 1 in every 4 blink she plays, and ridiculous wins, Somer blink is very very fishy.
I do not approve of CCP telling us they have been trustworthy in this sandbox, this is not a game for CCP to endorse players.
I don't understand, there seem to be some employees who really understand the sandbox, and others who just don't have a clue, do you guys have no communication around the office at all? I disagree |
Rroff
Questionable Ethics. Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
334
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Posted - 2013.09.27 13:04:00 -
[2019] - Quote
SKINE DMZ wrote:So that account wins 1 in every 4 blink she plays, and ridiculous wins, Somer blink is very very fishy.
I do not approve of CCP telling us they have been trustworthy in this sandbox, this is not a game for CCP to endorse players.
I don't understand, there seem to be some employees who really understand the sandbox, and others who just don't have a clue, do you guys have no communication around the office at all?
Looks like that player is buying a large proportion of tickets on every blink they play so they will get high wins but slim profit from it - probably are making more ISK than they are losing though if they are playing it smart just not by a large amount.
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Ona Bender
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2013.09.27 14:14:00 -
[2020] - Quote
If you buy all the tickets in a blink, you'll win 1 out of every 1 (100%) - that's not the same as winning as many promos in a day as I've won in 3 years - you only get one ticket in a promo. |
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BoBoZoBo
Paragon Fury Tactical Narcotics Team
320
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Posted - 2013.09.27 14:48:00 -
[2021] - Quote
Who's ******* idea was this? We don't have enough trusted events that we need to do something CCP can't guarantee will fall to insider trade or exploit? Primary Test Subject GÇó SmackTalker Elite |
Bob FromMarketing
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
52
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Posted - 2013.09.27 15:01:00 -
[2022] - Quote
CCP Navigator wrote: Q4, So you said earlier that SOMER Blink are trusted. Does that mean CCP is promising they will always deliver?
A4, Not at all. What I am saying is that to date they have been 100% trustful and we expect that will continue.
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CCP Navigator
Does this mean that if I buy a Supercarrier and use SOMERset Mahm to broker the transaction, if I get duped and my isk gets taken CCP will refund me to the full value as you have just audited and ensured their trustworthyness? |
Yabba Addict
The Lost Minmatar Legion LEX LEGIONEM
80
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Posted - 2013.09.27 15:04:00 -
[2023] - Quote
Nice one CCP, yet another PR nightmare you've gotten into |
Heywood Djiblomi
Stay Frosty.
2
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Posted - 2013.09.27 18:57:00 -
[2024] - Quote
The odor emanating from this whole saga has set off the galactic gag reflex. Seriously, CCP - the uproar should be a clue. |
Drosera Capensis
The Reynard Project
16
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Posted - 2013.09.27 19:07:00 -
[2025] - Quote
Andrev Nox wrote:Poetic Stanziel wrote:Pull Chribba Dice support in protest.
Do you feel any hypocrisy posting that 32 minutes after you claimed your free gift on our site? Just curious if you'd prefer to withdraw your use of our gifts in protest :)
Thing is, you got a free gift of unique items everyone would like and it was CCP that gave it to you. You will make tons of money from it. It's -not- a gift to the community, it's a gift to -you- since the only chance to have a shot at winning one of those things is to become one of your customers.
You might give attitude to those protesting while they still try to get a chance at one of those unique giveaways. It only makes it look like CCP was backing someone that fights for his pride instead of addressing the concerns of the community in a mature way. Giving out customer information in an attempt to silence a protest by making that protester look like a hypocrit does not give you an aura of honesty, more like a shady guy that fights dirty. |
Andrev Nox
SOMER Blink Cognitive Development
258
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Posted - 2013.09.27 21:06:00 -
[2026] - Quote
Hiya!
You seem to have confused what was going on in that conversation :) The free gift he was claiming on our site wasn't in any way connected to the CCP prizes. It's an ISK based giveaway that we ourselves do.
It also wasn't "givng out customer information" in that all gift opens are listed on the site, publicly, as they occur. Who opened what gift, how much they got, and when is already publicly displayed :) Somer Blink - The original microlottery site. |
Frostys Virpio
Lame Corp Name
717
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Posted - 2013.09.28 00:12:00 -
[2027] - Quote
CCP Eterne wrote:We have a new comment on this from CCP Navigator. You can read it here.
Except this "new comment" is utter trash because it fails to make any meaningfull change to what the actual problem is. Giving away free stuff to people in game. The only time you should ever spawn things in game is to enable the players to use a newly added game mecanics or new content just released. Not stupid ship that will barely ever get out of hangar and generate ridiculous profit for a 3rd party. CCP navigator said it was to create content. How much content will those ships create beside hate toward CCP for handling this poorly and 5 database lines listing where the ship is collecting dust? |
Forlorn Eskimo
The Scope Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2013.09.28 05:24:00 -
[2028] - Quote
Frostys Virpio wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:We have a new comment on this from CCP Navigator. You can read it here. Except this "new comment" is utter trash because it fails to make any meaningfull change to what the actual problem is. Giving away free stuff to people in game. The only time you should ever spawn things in game is to enable the players to use a newly added game mecanics or new content just released. Not stupid ship that will barely ever get out of hangar and generate ridiculous profit for a 3rd party. CCP navigator said it was to create content. How much content will those ships create beside hate toward CCP for handling this poorly and 5 database lines listing where the ship is collecting dust?
Maybe the Content CCP navigator is refering too is the vast amount of content blink already provide ? sponsoring rvb roams ? sponsoring tournements ? sponsoring eve vegas ?
feel free to help create content in this way if you like or devote time to do it hell use the time it took to create your post to think of a content idea i dare you |
Abernie
Massively Incompetent
113
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Posted - 2013.09.28 06:59:00 -
[2029] - Quote
Forlorn Eskimo wrote:[quote=Frostys Virpio] Maybe the Content CCP navigator is refering too is the vast amount of advertising they do. FYP
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Abernie
Massively Incompetent
113
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Posted - 2013.09.28 07:14:00 -
[2030] - Quote
wrong button... |
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Tzu Wu
Interstellar Military Assistance Corporation SpaceMonkey's Alliance
13
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Posted - 2013.09.28 17:38:00 -
[2031] - Quote
As much I love Blink I agree with most of the people when saying a private corporation shouldnt be given these prizes to give away.I think they are trustworthy but you still never know 100%.Giving prizes to a for profit private entity does smell of favoritism but you have to realize how much RL money blink also helps bring CCP.There are plenty of people who buy plexes from CCP to play Blink.Thats straight cash in the bank.So at the end of the day Blink is a nice cash cow for CCP to keep around. |
Rroff
Questionable Ethics. Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
336
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Posted - 2013.09.28 22:37:00 -
[2032] - Quote
Ona Bender wrote:If you buy all the tickets in a blink, you'll win 1 out of every 1 (100%) - that's not the same as winning as many promos in a day as I've won in 3 years - you only get one ticket in a promo.
Best I've had is 2 promo wins inside 24 hours and 10 minutes heh (~7 promo wins that week total). Some funky stuff does happen though - I once won 4 of the same ship in a row on the same number on consecutive blinks. |
Doc Severide
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
102
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Posted - 2013.09.29 11:57:00 -
[2033] - Quote
This sounds to me like another AFK cloaking thread... Everyone is always repeating the mantra "Don't Trust Anyone" ad nauseum... If I can't trust the guys I play with, why bother playing with them at all? Fly Solo... |
Slaiphon
The Scope Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.09.29 13:04:00 -
[2034] - Quote
So addictive :( Losing all my ISK here heh |
Nina Mink
Mink Industries
4
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Posted - 2013.09.29 18:42:00 -
[2035] - Quote
New bonk but no new gift to unpack... Btw did any1 allready found 1 of the hidden gifts in the minibonk? GÇ£A coward dies a thousand times before his death, but the valiant taste of death but once. It seems to me most strange that men should fear, seeing that death, a necessary end, will come when it will come.GÇ¥ |
Forlorn Eskimo
The Scope Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2013.09.29 20:16:00 -
[2036] - Quote
Nina Mink wrote:New bonk but no new gift to unpack... Btw did any1 allready found 1 of the hidden gifts in the minibonk?
there wasnt a gift in the mini they just added extra prize's to them after they announced the ccp vegas event :)
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Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
1359
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Posted - 2013.09.29 20:30:00 -
[2037] - Quote
Dear Somer Blink, if you do not scam CCP, you will let down the entire player base of Eve Online.
If CCP are daft enough to gift you a fortune, you should be smart enough to take it and keep it.
Man up, and do the right thing. This is not a signature. |
Slaiphon
The Scope Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.09.30 07:52:00 -
[2038] - Quote
So... I lost all my ISK playing Blink... Crossing my fingers for the Blast :D |
Caliph Muhammed
Perkone Caldari State
543
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Posted - 2013.09.30 08:18:00 -
[2039] - Quote
Tzu Wu wrote:As much I love Blink I agree with most of the people when saying a private corporation shouldnt be given these prizes to give away.I think they are trustworthy but you still never know 100%.Giving prizes to a for profit private entity does smell of favoritism but you have to realize how much RL money blink also helps bring CCP.There are plenty of people who buy plexes from CCP to play Blink.Thats straight cash in the bank.So at the end of the day Blink is a nice cash cow for CCP to keep around.
Pay to win? What are Goon subs worth a month? Not just them but various large entities. There is no justification for this. A unique ship is a unique ship. Its almost priceless. In terms of the game anyway.
How about giving them a ship that can't be sold or traded. Forever tied to that account/character and if it blows up its gone.
Unique. A status symbol. Is worth everything and nothing at all. Completely acceptable within EVE.
I think we'll find that wouldn't be acceptable because it's all about scamming the addicts and suckers out of rl cash and ISK. |
Caliph Muhammed
Perkone Caldari State
543
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Posted - 2013.09.30 08:27:00 -
[2040] - Quote
Pick a side people. Either you want it fair or you don't care. And standing up for a fair game when your subs support its growth is justified. Your participation in EVE creates gameplay and is just as valuable to the game as Somerblink.
More to people like me because I haven't played blink ever. Somerblink has in 3-4 years not created a shred of content for me that I've ever been able to recognize. I don't hate Somerblink. I didn't mind it before. But when it is using a very underhanded means to achieve an in game advantage and it affects me i'm going to make a case. |
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