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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.05.25 18:52:00 - [211]

yeah wasted my sec status when i wanted to kill a smacktalker in local, but unfortunally he got help from his gang members, and i ended up with -3.1 Confused


no more empire for me it seems
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Posted - 2004.05.25 18:52:00 - [212]

yeah wasted my sec status when i wanted to kill a smacktalker in local, but unfortunally he got help from his gang members, and i ended up with -3.1 Confused


no more empire for me it seems



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Viqer Fell
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Posted - 2004.05.29 12:06:00 - [213]

C'mon TomB, I dare you to post, no ... I double dare you!

Wink

Seriously though TomB I think it can only be fair for us to expect an answer. It's the uncertainty that is causing the bad attitudes here. Either tell us once and for all whether you expect us to just be perma banned from 0.5 or whether there will be a "significant" revamp of the sec status increase.

Either that or explain how I can realistically, say within 2 months re-enter 1.0 systems, with my current social skills (all trained to high ish lvls with all but diplomacy) and my current rating (-6.3).

I know this may sound poor but I suspect that the reason you are not responding is not that you haven't read this post but that you really don't want to be honest and tell us all that the dev team have no intention of helping us reform whatsoever and that you simply don't want us all to suddenly go for the -10 club by podding every little ship we see.




Ok, so what the hell is this Golden Ratio?
Viqer Fell
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Posted - 2004.05.29 12:06:00 - [214]

C'mon TomB, I dare you to post, no ... I double dare you!

Wink

Seriously though TomB I think it can only be fair for us to expect an answer. It's the uncertainty that is causing the bad attitudes here. Either tell us once and for all whether you expect us to just be perma banned from 0.5 or whether there will be a "significant" revamp of the sec status increase.

Either that or explain how I can realistically, say within 2 months re-enter 1.0 systems, with my current social skills (all trained to high ish lvls with all but diplomacy) and my current rating (-6.3).

I know this may sound poor but I suspect that the reason you are not responding is not that you haven't read this post but that you really don't want to be honest and tell us all that the dev team have no intention of helping us reform whatsoever and that you simply don't want us all to suddenly go for the -10 club by podding every little ship we see.





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Lord Zap
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Posted - 2004.05.30 00:03:00 - [215]

Bring back daily sec increases so that after 3 months or so a person who was -10 would be back to 0. Its the only sensible thing to do, and an official response on whether persons with negative sec are going to be perma banned from empire would be nice. PLEASE BE HONEST WITH YOUR POOR CUSTOMERS.
Lord Zap
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Posted - 2004.05.30 00:03:00 - [216]

Bring back daily sec increases so that after 3 months or so a person who was -10 would be back to 0. Its the only sensible thing to do, and an official response on whether persons with negative sec are going to be perma banned from empire would be nice. PLEASE BE HONEST WITH YOUR POOR CUSTOMERS.
Viqer Fell
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Posted - 2004.05.30 00:15:00 - [217]

Ah sweet irony, the guy that first podded me 11 months ago is the person I am now arguing with to get CCP to do something. LOL mind you I don't suppose it's the same account holder given the rumours.

Still waiting for an answer TomB!


Ok, so what the hell is this Golden Ratio?
Viqer Fell
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Posted - 2004.05.30 00:15:00 - [218]

Ah sweet irony, the guy that first podded me 11 months ago is the person I am now arguing with to get CCP to do something. LOL mind you I don't suppose it's the same account holder given the rumours.

Still waiting for an answer TomB!



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Viqer Fell
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Posted - 2004.05.31 01:12:00 - [219]

TomB... we're still awaiting your answer.


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Viqer Fell
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Posted - 2004.05.31 01:12:00 - [220]

TomB... we're still awaiting your answer.



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Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2004.05.31 01:29:00 - [221]

Originally by: Lord Zap
Bring back daily sec increases so that after 3 months or so a person who was -10 would be back to 0. Its the only sensible thing to do, and an official response on whether persons with negative sec are going to be perma banned from empire would be nice. PLEASE BE HONEST WITH YOUR POOR CUSTOMERS.


being perma banned from empire would not bother me so much if we got something in return

we kill players, so then any player can kill us in return...thats fair

But where is the balance in being banned from empire?

TBH i believe that pirates should be able to go into high sec, but if they stay in space in the same system for 10mins, the navy come and hunt them down...also id like the sentry guns not to auto fire on us.
atm, if i enter high sec i get a message telling me "Tenacha Khan criminals will not be toillerated in Caldari space, leave now or your vessel will be destroyed"
wtf..leave? hmm it should really say "Tenacha Khan, we finally have you and are gonna take delight in wtfpwning your ass"



Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2004.05.31 01:29:00 - [222]

Originally by: Lord Zap
Bring back daily sec increases so that after 3 months or so a person who was -10 would be back to 0. Its the only sensible thing to do, and an official response on whether persons with negative sec are going to be perma banned from empire would be nice. PLEASE BE HONEST WITH YOUR POOR CUSTOMERS.


being perma banned from empire would not bother me so much if we got something in return

we kill players, so then any player can kill us in return...thats fair

But where is the balance in being banned from empire?

TBH i believe that pirates should be able to go into high sec, but if they stay in space in the same system for 10mins, the navy come and hunt them down...also id like the sentry guns not to auto fire on us.
atm, if i enter high sec i get a message telling me "Tenacha Khan criminals will not be toillerated in Caldari space, leave now or your vessel will be destroyed"
wtf..leave? hmm it should really say "Tenacha Khan, we finally have you and are gonna take delight in wtfpwning your ass"
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Kildarin Farushna
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Posted - 2004.05.31 01:50:00 - [223]

Originally by: Tenacha Khan
atm, if i enter high sec i get a message telling me "Tenacha Khan criminals will not be toillerated in Caldari space, leave now or your vessel will be destroyed"
wtf..leave? hmm it should really say "Tenacha Khan, we finally have you and are gonna take delight in wtfpwning your ass"


Agreed
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Kildarin Farushna
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Posted - 2004.05.31 01:50:00 - [224]

Originally by: Tenacha Khan
atm, if i enter high sec i get a message telling me "Tenacha Khan criminals will not be toillerated in Caldari space, leave now or your vessel will be destroyed"
wtf..leave? hmm it should really say "Tenacha Khan, we finally have you and are gonna take delight in wtfpwning your ass"


Agreed
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vanBuskirk
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Posted - 2004.05.31 07:45:00 - [225]

Originally by: Viqer Fell
C'mon TomB, I dare you to post, no ... I double dare you!

Wink

Seriously though TomB I think it can only be fair for us to expect an answer. It's the uncertainty that is causing the bad attitudes here. Either tell us once and for all whether you expect us to just be perma banned from 0.5 or whether there will be a "significant" revamp of the sec status increase.

Either that or explain how I can realistically, say within 2 months re-enter 1.0 systems, with my current social skills (all trained to high ish lvls with all but diplomacy) and my current rating (-6.3).

I know this may sound poor but I suspect that the reason you are not responding is not that you haven't read this post but that you really don't want to be honest and tell us all that the dev team have no intention of helping us reform whatsoever and that you simply don't want us all to suddenly go for the -10 club by podding every little ship we see.




Ah diddums, you kill people for a living and you don't want the cops to shoot you?

You're a pirate. Pirates aren't welcome in civilised society. You made the choice - deal with the consequences or end yourself. Personally, I'd prefer the latter.
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Posted - 2004.05.31 07:45:00 - [226]

Originally by: Viqer Fell
C'mon TomB, I dare you to post, no ... I double dare you!

Wink

Seriously though TomB I think it can only be fair for us to expect an answer. It's the uncertainty that is causing the bad attitudes here. Either tell us once and for all whether you expect us to just be perma banned from 0.5 or whether there will be a "significant" revamp of the sec status increase.

Either that or explain how I can realistically, say within 2 months re-enter 1.0 systems, with my current social skills (all trained to high ish lvls with all but diplomacy) and my current rating (-6.3).

I know this may sound poor but I suspect that the reason you are not responding is not that you haven't read this post but that you really don't want to be honest and tell us all that the dev team have no intention of helping us reform whatsoever and that you simply don't want us all to suddenly go for the -10 club by podding every little ship we see.




Ah diddums, you kill people for a living and you don't want the cops to shoot you?

You're a pirate. Pirates aren't welcome in civilised society. You made the choice - deal with the consequences or end yourself. Personally, I'd prefer the latter.
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Viqer Fell
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Posted - 2004.05.31 18:38:00 - [227]

One thing that really gets on my nerves is uneducated overly-judgemental pilots who rather than research their facts just go out of their way to prove they have the intellectual capacity of a small cabbage.

Thanks for the "Ha ha you're a pirate, I'm a bitter twit" post.

Had you bothered to do any research you would have discovered that I haven't once pirated in my entire 12 month career. I spent the last 11 months role playing a minmatar freedom fighter. I spent that time building up one of the most well known freedom fighting / terrorist corporations excepting say Oracle.

So please before you run your mouth off again with your ill-informed and misguided opinions try researching your facts.

Unless that is of course your definition of Pirate is "anybody that engages in PvP at all, ever!"

All I want to know is that I will at some point in the near future (within 3 months) i can become rehabilitated into society not be permanently banned by CCP for playing a role which enhanced many pilots game experience and indeed generated several front page news stories. I feel like I am being punished for making the game better for people.


Ok, so what the hell is this Golden Ratio?
Viqer Fell
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Posted - 2004.05.31 18:38:00 - [228]

One thing that really gets on my nerves is uneducated overly-judgemental pilots who rather than research their facts just go out of their way to prove they have the intellectual capacity of a small cabbage.

Thanks for the "Ha ha you're a pirate, I'm a bitter twit" post.

Had you bothered to do any research you would have discovered that I haven't once pirated in my entire 12 month career. I spent the last 11 months role playing a minmatar freedom fighter. I spent that time building up one of the most well known freedom fighting / terrorist corporations excepting say Oracle.

So please before you run your mouth off again with your ill-informed and misguided opinions try researching your facts.

Unless that is of course your definition of Pirate is "anybody that engages in PvP at all, ever!"

All I want to know is that I will at some point in the near future (within 3 months) i can become rehabilitated into society not be permanently banned by CCP for playing a role which enhanced many pilots game experience and indeed generated several front page news stories. I feel like I am being punished for making the game better for people.



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Tobruk
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Posted - 2004.06.01 04:27:00 - [229]

Originally by: Lord Zap
Bring back daily sec increases so that after 3 months or so a person who was -10 would be back to 0. Its the only sensible thing to do, and an official response on whether persons with negative sec are going to be perma banned from empire would be nice. PLEASE BE HONEST WITH YOUR POOR CUSTOMERS.


i actually agree with zap. ive had my -9.7 for nearly 5 months and that is bull.
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Posted - 2004.06.01 04:27:00 - [230]

Originally by: Lord Zap
Bring back daily sec increases so that after 3 months or so a person who was -10 would be back to 0. Its the only sensible thing to do, and an official response on whether persons with negative sec are going to be perma banned from empire would be nice. PLEASE BE HONEST WITH YOUR POOR CUSTOMERS.


i actually agree with zap. ive had my -9.7 for nearly 5 months and that is bull.
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Lenus Daragio
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Posted - 2007.05.02 02:38:00 - [231]

I'd say the daily sec status increase is a great idea to bring back. It was probably taken out because it was broken, but it shouldn't be a fixed increase, should work more or less on a curve.
E.G.
-0.1 to -1.9 : .1 Increase per day
-2.0 to -3.9 : .06 Increase per day
-3.9 to -5.0 : .03 Increase per day
-5.1 or lower: No daily increase.

I used to chain belts to get my sec status back, (the 10 minute timer worked on a system by system basis. I'm not sure if they took that out, but if you moved from one system to another, and killed just one BShip, you could increase your sec status really fast. Just find a quiet area of 0.0)

Now the sec status increase doesn't seem to work at ALL, i can rat for hours, and kill 1.8 mil Bships, in three seperate systems, and only get a .25 increase after 30 minutes. That's BS if you ask me.

SFShootme
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Posted - 2007.05.02 11:12:00 - [232]

it took me 5 days to bring my sec status from -10.0 to -1.9 ..... 0.0 ratting 4tw

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Akane Miyamoto
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Posted - 2007.05.02 11:15:00 - [233]

IBTL for necro Confused

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Kim kitori
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Posted - 2007.05.02 17:58:00 - [234]

I cant believe you made me read all these old stuffs. Mad
Namingway
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Posted - 2007.05.02 22:33:00 - [235]

Damn necro.Rolling Eyes

Kelly O'Connor
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Posted - 2007.05.02 23:48:00 - [236]

Necromancy indeed, but the point is that another detailed post by a dev explaining all the small things about security gains would be much appreciated by many players.
Dread Operative
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Posted - 2007.05.02 23:48:00 - [237]

I'm posting in a thread that is super old.

RisingDragon
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Posted - 2007.05.03 02:56:00 - [238]

What is really hacking me off is the unreliability of the sec status gain, I'd like to see a reliable system put in place, this current biggest rat in 10 minutes thing punishes people who are prepared to kill npc after npc for hours on end to get rid of a sec status achieved for killing pretty much nothing. I think the current punishment system is fair, but gaining it back is seriously under-balanced, especially for people who arent in an alliance with access to remote 0.0 systems and fly bs's.

The worst thing about the security status is that it penalises people like me who arent pirates and are fed up of fleet ganks in 0.0 but enjoy the solo pvp or small gang pvp that tends to occur in low sec
Linium
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Posted - 2007.05.03 12:17:00 - [239]

I dont have the time to read all the replys so far but my suggestion would be to let sec status increase at 0.1 per day up to a maximum of 0.0. If you want to go above this knock yourself out. A plus 5 sec status is of no use at all to carebears or anyone else. I am -2.1 and have been for years, chaining npc spawns is not something i really want to do at all and adds nothing to my or alot of other pvpers gameplay. Scrap it. It is far to difficult to raise sec status at present.YARRRR!!
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