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Cheekything
Black Lance Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2011.09.08 06:57:00 -
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I've been an avid fan of this thread the many revivals and I think the new forums needs a copy of it.
Been 5 years we just got "walking in stations" well sort of but can we get a decent POS now plox.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=391410 http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1208972
Evelgrivion wrote:[edit]Edited by: Evelgrivion on 29/05/2011 04:48:41[/edit] Images have been replaced. Unfortunately, I lost the originals with the forum debacle, but the ones that were linked are an acceptable substitute. To put it simply, the current POS system is Butt-ugly, lagtacular, overpowered, underpowered, and completely, totally whacky, and fails to live up to the expectations of those who wish to see them for the first time. This proposal at the very least aims to solve the first and last two issues, whilst providing a way for those who do not have 30 billion to blow on a station to get a suitable level of infrastructure for new 0.0 operations. In a nutshell, its a modular POS with most of the functionality of a station, depending on the modules attached. How would this all go together? Today's idea comes with pictures! The heart of the system is a simple interconnecting module. From this modular structure, all modules are referenced, attached, and based within a simple grid system. Exhibit AThe four corridors allow for easy expansion of the station, and scalable infrastructure can grow with the needs of the corporation. or alliance in possession of it. Exhibit BMuch like the current POS system, the heart and soul of the station would remain the control tower. For this example, let me introduce Exhibit C, for a small Caldari styled control tower. Exhibit CFrom this control tower, everything else on the POS is referenced. Instead of giving us exact XYZ coordinates of every module in space, they can be instead referenced to the tower and the layout grid on which it is based. After deployment of the control tower, you can begin adding additional structures to the POS to give it the functionality you want it to have. Allow me to present Exhibits D and E. Exhibits D & E (Large File)Exhibit D is a storage container module; these provide the storage capabilities for the POS. Exhibit E is a refinery module, which would obviously provide refinery capabilities for the station. Up a certain point, additional refinery modules would provide additional refinery efficiency, though logarithmically decreasing with each one while consuming the same amount of poewr. This could allow larger, more powerful, and more expensive designs to have a place in the universe. Up to this point, the accessibility remains the same as it is for the current POS, with one user hovering outside the module at a time. To alleviate the issues inherent in that, I present exhibit F; the hangar module. This system is not limited to 1x1 modules, and "supermodules" are a distinct possibility with this system. Exhibit FProviding a certain quantity of hangar space (Meters-¦) depending on size (and expense), the hangar module provides an interface to POS management just like standard stations, allowing simple refining, manufacturing, and possibly even clone bays, depending on the modules that you have installed. Put it altogether, and you get a simple POS that is easy to manage, expandable, and ranging in capabilities and expense. In its most basic form, I present Exhibit G. Exhibit GHere is an optional, more contraversial change that this system would make. If CCP wishes, they could integrate much of a POSs defense into this module system; rather than having free floating, invincible guns, large weapons battery modules could be introduced to the station. Presenting Exhibit H. Exhibit HFully realized, Exhibit I. Exhibit I (Fully Realised Modular POS)While this is just a simple example, the potential is there for leagues more complex and powerful bases than those demonstrated here. |
Vertisce Soritenshi
SHADOW WARD Tragedy.
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Posted - 2011.09.08 19:11:00 -
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Confirming that CCP needs to update POS's as one of the priority items. Would be cool to get out and walk around in one as well... |
Cheekything
Black Lance Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2011.09.10 07:15:00 -
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This thread needs more zest. |
Kylar Tzu
Wildland Privateers
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Posted - 2011.09.11 01:48:00 -
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I strongly agree with this, it is time for a change |
Mr Adama
Und3r Th3 Influ3nc3
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Posted - 2011.09.12 01:29:00 -
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As always, supported... again |
Amun Khonsu
Royal Order of Security Specialists
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Posted - 2011.09.12 07:51:00 -
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+1 I like the idea Fight them until turmoil is no more and strike terror into their hearts. |
Cyprus Black
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.09.12 10:40:00 -
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Cheeky your avatar creeps me out. I don't know why.
+1 to flogging that dead horse on the new forums. Now, where's that support button... |
Vertisce Soritenshi
SHADOW WARD Tragedy.
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Posted - 2011.09.12 13:54:00 -
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This thread should be stickied on the new forums. |
Usurpine
GDC Holding Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2011.09.12 15:20:00 -
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supported. We need content, not barbie dresses. |
The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.09.12 18:30:00 -
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The entire CSM is behind the Dead Horse proposal, just like every other right-thinking individual who plays EVE. |
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Tethys Atreides
The Audacity of Huge
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Posted - 2011.09.12 18:36:00 -
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Do it. Do it now. |
Vertisce Soritenshi
SHADOW WARD Tragedy.
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Posted - 2011.09.13 01:44:00 -
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If the CSM accomplishes to get CCP to do any one single thing this year...it should be this. |
Cheekything
Black Lance Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2011.09.18 14:23:00 -
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Bump because it's needed. |
Frau JeanYus
PsiTit Corp
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Posted - 2011.09.18 21:06:00 -
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Agree & Bump
Let's go - do it - hello?
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Jag Kara
Gh0st Hunters Sspectre
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Posted - 2011.09.19 17:33:00 -
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I'm still surprised they do so much to change the game and still brush over this. |
Ingvar Angst
Nasty Pope Holding Corp Talocan United
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Posted - 2011.09.19 17:39:00 -
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As cool as this looks, imagine them being blown up by the next fleet to come along, simply because they look cool. I like it, I think... but they can go boom... Six months in the hole... it changes a man. |
Cheekything
Black Lance Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2011.09.23 13:03:00 -
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But I like it when things go BOOOMMM!!
Keeping it under CCP's nose till they update POS. |
Rico Minali
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.09.25 15:22:00 -
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Yep, POS's need to A: Not look like a flaoting junkyard and B: Have a fuel that is one cell built from the current pos fuels so you onlu need to carry that one item, not 7.
Have a racial fuel cell for each race, made from the ice and pi products, each fuel cell, or rod lasts 3 hours on a smal pos, 2 on a medium and 1 on a large, simple, make life easier. Looking after pos's is not fun or enjoyable but is necessary, can we try and make it as painless as possible please... |
Trebor Daehdoow
Sane Industries Inc.
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Posted - 2011.09.25 19:11:00 -
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The Mittani wrote:The entire CSM is behind the Dead Horse proposal, just like every other right-thinking individual who plays EVE.
When Mittens and I agree on something, it's usually a good idea. We agree on this. CSM - because I have not yet plumbed the depths of my inherent masochism! CSM 6 Activities Summary | My CSM blog |
ehon
Edani Innovations
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Posted - 2011.09.29 18:55:00 -
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Trebor Daehdoow wrote:The Mittani wrote:The entire CSM is behind the Dead Horse proposal, just like every other right-thinking individual who plays EVE. When Mittens and I agree on something, it's usually a good idea. We agree on this.
then i expect to see some sort of results..... |
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Cypermethren
Celtic Cartage And Hauling
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Posted - 2011.09.30 06:21:00 -
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Jesus man...
I remember seeing these pictures and getting so excited, and then forgetting about it again as nothing happend :(
Here for all of you whom did not have the pleasure of seeing these when they origionaly got posted.
Origional Thread: http://eve-search.com/thread/391410/page/8 http://cyerus.eve-it.org/?p=94
Sexy Modular Pos's:
http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/DDHorse/Exhibit_a.jpg
http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/DDHorse/exhibit_b.jpg
http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/DDHorse/exhibit_c.jpg
http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/DDHorse/exhibit_de.jpg
http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/DDHorse/exhibit_f.jpg
http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/DDHorse/exhibit_g.jpg
http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/DDHorse/exhibit_h.jpg
http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/DDHorse/exhibit_i.jpg
http://cyerus.eve-it.org/img/modular_example_full.jpg
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Vertisce Soritenshi
SHADOW WARD Tragedy.
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Posted - 2011.09.30 13:09:00 -
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4th link for exhibit_de is broken. |
Cheekything
Black Lance Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2011.10.01 16:46:00 -
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Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:4th link for exhibit_de is broken.
Would have to speak to chribba about that :/ |
anvyl sky
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Posted - 2011.10.03 20:49:00 -
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shameless bump. lets keep this at page one permanently, guys. |
Vertisce Soritenshi
SHADOW WARD Tragedy.
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Posted - 2011.10.03 21:22:00 -
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Yes...this thread deserves way more attention than it is getting. Yes...HINT HINT CCP! |
Omega Flames
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
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Posted - 2011.10.04 09:54:00 -
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Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:Yes...this thread deserves way more attention than it is getting. Yes...HINT HINT CCP! I hate to be the guy to burst the proverbial bubble but.... there is a reason it's called the dead horse thread, and that's cause CCP let the horse die years ago and via their inaction to fix pos's told us they don't give a hoot about our hints. If you want pos's to be fixed I suggest you crash Jita, that's about the only thing large enough to get their attention and make them respond. I'd wager there have been more ideas fielded about how to fix pos's than any other topic, and you see where we are at still. Personally I'm going to curse CCP and then continue playing knowing one day I'll move on from this game just like i eventually moved on from Runescape and WoW. When companies stop thinking they know what a player wants better than the player knows what he wants is the day pigs fly. In short, you aren't getting pos fixes sry man I really am. |
StormHammer 666
Arch Arsonists of EvE Another Really Stupid Enterprise
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Posted - 2011.10.04 10:55:00 -
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But it is still a nice idea! Stormhammer 666 CEO ARSE Another Really Stupid Enterprise
Where pew pew time is fun time! |
Cheekything
Black Lance Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2011.10.04 22:22:00 -
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Omega Flames wrote:Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:Yes...this thread deserves way more attention than it is getting. Yes...HINT HINT CCP! I hate to be the guy to burst the proverbial bubble but.... there is a reason it's called the dead horse thread, and that's cause CCP let the horse die years ago and via their inaction to fix pos's told us they don't give a hoot about our hints. If you want pos's to be fixed I suggest you crash Jita, that's about the only thing large enough to get their attention and make them respond. I'd wager there have been more ideas fielded about how to fix pos's than any other topic, and you see where we are at still. Personally I'm going to curse CCP and then continue playing knowing one day I'll move on from this game just like i eventually moved on from Runescape and WoW. When companies stop thinking they know what a player wants better than the player knows what he wants is the day pigs fly. In short, you aren't getting pos fixes sry man I really am.
I hate to be that guy who feels the need to point out the very obvious flaw that everyone know about.
Fact is POS are old and needed changing.
CCP needs to put some time into changing them.
The flogging the old horse thread was a great place where people discussed why it was so important that they change and is still very important today.
It doesn't matter if CCP is slow, they are getting slowly back on the ball after a bunch of terribly implemented ideas.
Since we have new forums this needed to be one of the first threads before all the stupid people whine about afk cloakers and nerf XYZ it's too powereful and more importantly it needs to stay relevant. |
schurem
Silver Snake Enterprise
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Posted - 2011.10.06 17:23:00 -
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Want the modular space station thingers instead of the horrible bubble staffs we have now. please CCP? implement this stuff? |
Candente
The Kairos Syndicate Transmission Lost
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Posted - 2011.10.06 17:48:00 -
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Exhibit I is pretty bad ass and the POS should look like that in the beginning.
Although I think a force field should be added to the picture jsut because it's what we've been used to.
Death of this horse is a lie! |
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