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EVE Bet	Posted - 2008.04.05 09:00:00 - [1] Edited by: EVE Bet on 05/04/2008 09:01:38 EvE Bet it a new service that i will be providing to all eve players. EvE Bet will be essentially a betting service, taking bets on anything u like, in and out of EvE. This Includes International Football Club Football Horse Racing In Game Events (e.g. Alliance Tornaments) If you wish to place a bet on any event please feel free to contact me ingame, i will be broadcasting regularly in trade an Jita local informing people of this service. As i am UK based this service will only include UK Club Football and Racing, at the moment and will be limited to events which start and finish on the day the bet is placed. Currently i intend to run this service alone however if i get a large interest i may employ people and pay isk to assist running the service. The current minimum bet will be 1 million ISK and the maximum is negotiable on weather i think it is feesable to take the bet. Each-Way bets are also accepted. To place a bet please contact character: "EVE Bet" in game and i will assist you as much as possible. Example of a Bet: (Converstaion Open) EVE Bet > Hi, how may i help you. EvilSource > I would Like to place a bet of 10 Million ISK on Hedgehunter to Win the grand national. EVE Bet > That would be possible, if you could transfer me 10 Million ISK i will Provide you with a Bet ID and should you win the bet the winnings will be transfered directly to your wallet with "Bet ID : XXXXX" as reason for transfer along wth an ingame mail. On the event of a loss no contact will be made. EvilSource > The transfer has been made. EVE Bet > Thank you. The transfer has been recived and your bet is now placed on Hedgehunter to win with odds of 16-1 and your New bet ID is "000001" thank you. (Conversation Closed)
EVE Bet	Posted - 2008.04.05 09:08:00 - [2] TODAYS MAIN EVENT!! 4.15 Aintree - Grand National [Each Way: 1/4 odds for place 1-4] Number / Name / Odds 26 Cloudy Lane 7.0 33 Comply Or Die 11.00 12 Slim Pickings 11.00 17 Bewleys Berry 13.00 7 Simon 13.00 11 Butlers Cabin 15.00 27 King Johns Castle 15.00 16 Snowy Morning 15.00 1 Hedgehunter 15.00 4 Mr Pointment 15.00 13 Chelsea Harbour 15.00 21 Point Barrow 20.00 22 DArgent 20.00 40 Dun Doire 20.00 19 Mckelvey 25.00 5 Turko 25.00 39 Philson Run 25.00 28 Mon Mome 25.00 14 Vodka Bleu 35.00 15 LAmi 35.00 35 Kelami 50.00 38 Black Apalachi 50.00 24 Baily Breeze 65.00 29 Cornish Sett 65.00 10 Fundamentalist 65.00 6 Madison Du Berlais 65.00 3 Knowhere 65.00 20 Joaaci 70.00 34 Idle Talk 70.00 30 Naunton Brook 80.00 32 Backbeat 80.00 2 Hi Cloy 100.00 9 Iron Man 100.00 25 Bob Hall 100.00 31 Tumbling Dice 100.00 23 No Full 100.00 37 Nadover 100.00 8 Ardaghey 100.00 18 Contraband 100.00 36 Milan Deux Mille 100.00
Raivi	Posted - 2008.04.05 09:10:00 - [3] What guarantee and/or evidence can you provide that this is not a scam? --------------------------------------------- Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. Red vs. Blue!
EVE Bet	Posted - 2008.04.05 09:23:00 - [4] place a 1 mil bet and win and ull see that u get ur money..... ive been trying to think of a way to prove that its not but like what can i do.... unless ppl try it and see then pass on good word ...
Raivi	Posted - 2008.04.05 09:29:00 - [5] Providing the identity of your main character might help a bit. The problem with gaining trust by honouring small bets is that you might be waiting for a big one before springing the scam. The only way to be considered trustworthy is for your good name to be worth more objectively than the value you would gain by stealing, and that's impossible to do with a newly created alt. --------------------------------------------- Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. Red vs. Blue!
EVE Bet	Posted - 2008.04.05 09:34:00 - [6] Mains are EvilSource, and EvilEmbrace if i get trust and get a good service running and with 30k ppl on if i just take a couple 100 bets a weekend having a good name and running a good service would make more isk then i could ever scam. I Made this char jsut so ppl can remember the name easy and i can find the transactions easy.
Rattler Morgan	Posted - 2008.04.05 09:35:00 - [7] also i would suggest that u create a specific channel for this adventure for ppl to go into instead of start convo, (btw if u insist on private convo then pls turn ur cspa charges off)
EVE Bet	Posted - 2008.04.05 09:56:00 - [8] haha ... looks like i gota be nice now :P
Fairchild	Posted - 2008.04.05 10:35:00 - [9] Edited by: Fairchild on 05/04/2008 10:35:37 A good service indeed... \o/ And yes, poddings will be swift and just if I win and don't get my ISKies Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
EVE Bet	Posted - 2008.04.05 10:39:00 - [10] they aint won yet.... i need to take more bets... think its gona be a few week tho befor i can get eh bets flowing in

Asuka Smith StarHunt Fallout Project	Posted - 2008.04.05 11:29:00 - [11] You need to explain how odds work, are you facilitating bets between players or is it us vs. the house... What are the odds? You make it sound like I am betting the house with an even-money bet. Is that correct?
Buyerr Hedion University	Posted - 2008.04.05 12:22:00 - [12] Edited by: Buyerr on 05/04/2008 12:25:46 Originally by: Raivi What guarantee and/or evidence can you provide that this is not a scam? why should you scam something like this? since it is a win win situation.. although i can't imagine that this would be legal to do over eve, betting on rl stuff for the purpose of gaining isk... (besides it is illegal betting, since you are using a system that you are not a bet of, and i am pretty sure ccp will not support this.) would be weird and could start a nasty habit of a million different betting stuf in eve etc..1 besides you haven't put a max of how much you can afford to lose, so if some one places a 1bill and wins lets say 10 bills, how would you be able to pay (so in reality this would turn into a scam if some one hit the "jakpot") ps. i would suggest linking to some well known charecters (that are trusted) which will say good for this, so people know it is not a scam and that you are good for the isk, would be a good idea for it to get started I declare war on stupidity
Erotic Irony 0bsession	Posted - 2008.04.05 12:26:00 - [13] I want to bet some isk on the possibility of this being an EIB scam. ___ Eve Players are not very smart. Support Killmail Overhaul
Raivi	Posted - 2008.04.05 12:26:00 - [14] Originally by: Buyerr Edited by: Buyerr on 05/04/2008 12:23:34 Originally by: Raivi What guarantee and/or evidence can you provide that this is not a scam? why should you scam something like this? since it is a win win situation.. although i can't imagine that this would be legal to do over eve, betting on rl stuff for the purpose of gaining isk... would be weird and could start a nasty habit of a million different betting stuf in eve etc..1 besides you haven't put a max of how much you can afford to lose, so if some one places a 1bill and wins lets say 10 bills, how would you be able to pay (so in reality this would turn into a scam if some one hit the "jakpot") ps. i would suggest linking to some well known charecters (that are trusted) which will say good for this, so people know it is not a scam and that you are good for the isk, would be a good idea for it to get started Sure you could eventually make more money doing this legit then by scamming the first big better to come along, but that would take a lot more time and effort. Time and effort you could be spending pulling off your next scam. And this concept is definitely legal, it's been going on since the beginning of the game with CCP's blessing. --------------------------------------------- Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. Red vs. Blue!
EVE Bet School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.04.05 13:37:00 - [15] Edited by: EVE Bet on 05/04/2008 13:37:31 as to the sacamming the first big bet... im not surrently taking bets over 25 mil anyway as i dont want to have a big bet come in and not beable to afford the payout, just made a 50 mil payout to a football game ... ouch
Kazuo Ishiguro House of Marbles Zzz	Posted - 2008.04.05 14:06:00 - [16] I'd like to draw people's attention to the odds I'm offering on an in-game race taking place tomorrow: http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=740667 All odds there are x to y format: if your chosen racer/team wins, you get your stake back plus x isk for every y that you bet. My research services Spreadsheets: Top speed calculation - Halo Implant stats
Barbens	Posted - 2008.04.05 16:08:00 - [17] If i remember correctly, the last time this was tried, it ran into international law. But, cheers to you if it succedes. BaRbEnS Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
EVE Bet School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.04.05 18:30:00 - [18] wtf...international law about gambling with game money.. ehat a load of crap ill deal with it if sum1 tells me i gota stop.
Ranger802004 Knights Of the Black Sun Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.04.05 18:32:00 - [19] TT Alt spotted! lol jk, good luck with this man.
Overwhelmed Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2008.04.05 18:32:00 - [20] I always entrust my money to people that type like 14-year old AOL'ers. Count me in! ---------------------------------------------------------- Posting And You Disclaimer: This is a meta-game alt for meta-game discussions.

Ciuby Romania Production Inc.	Posted - 2008.04.06 06:44:00 - [21] Edited by: Ciuby on 06/04/2008 06:44:50 any chance on football matches? that would interest me in some way :) can you make a website with odds and stuff like that? __________ Manufacturing whatever you need...
Rattler Morgan	Posted - 2008.04.06 08:15:00 - [22] cheers, i made a 25 mil bet yesterday on pompey beating west brom made a nice 20 mil winnings. I know from my previous post in this thread that i said that this guy i.e. his main char is in my corp so maybe im being biased a bit, bet was made, i received an eve mail stating the amount paid, odds and potential winnings. of course i won the bet and the winnings was paid promptly so tks very much m8 on a side note, cant wait till i can win some more of your isk
Zaerlorth Maelkor The Mavericks	Posted - 2008.04.06 08:26:00 - [23] I don't have anything against it personally, but. This can't possibly be legal. ================================================== I should really get a sig.
EVE Bet	Posted - 2008.04.06 13:57:00 - [24] Edited by: EVE Bet on 06/04/2008 14:04:59 Edited by: EVE Bet on 06/04/2008 13:59:50 hey jsut spotted a post about how the system works... you place an bet on event ... e.g. team A to win Team B at a football game you place 1mil for team A to win and i give u odds of 1.8 you willl recive a 1.8 mil payout upon a win.. bets are made with myself... so e.g if team A wins i loose 0.8 mil, if team A looses i gain 1.0... works exactly like a highstreet betting shop odds are displayed in either decimal or fraction form. if uve ever been in a betting shop youlll know all the ins and out for details convo me in game odd are either fractional e.g. 4/5 upon a win u recive the fractional odds of ur stake+ return of your stake e.g. 1 mil bet , 4/5 odds 1mil * 4/5 = 0.8 mil stake = 1mil total payout = 1.8 mil decimals are a multiplier... so u your stake is included in the odds e.g odds of 1.8 1.8 * stake = 1.8 mil decimal odds = fractional odds + 1
EVE Bet	Posted - 2008.04.06 13:59:00 - [25] and to be honest i cant see there being an internationa law about people placing bets with in game money... thats like saying its illegal to risk your ship in a fight because in effect ur gambling on winning or u will losse isk.
The TX	Posted - 2008.04.06 14:02:00 - [26] I wanted to start an in-game casino, it's difficult to regulate and to get trust from people - everyone told me to naff off and stop scamming. Good luck EVE Bet! -------------------- [Signature] Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. [/Signature]
EVE Bet School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.04.06 14:08:00 - [27] yea but the problem with a casino is how does it work ... e.g roulette... you have to "show" the betters the result... so its difficult to show that the number is what u say and youve not just picked 1 your not gona loose out on. whereas with betting on events ppl can simple go online and find if thier team, player, whatever event results are
EVE Bet School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.04.06 14:08:00 - [28] thanks for the good luck. im hoping it works out ....
Niccolado Starwalker Shadow Templars	Posted - 2008.04.06 14:15:00 - [29] Originally by: EVE Bet thanks for the good luck. im hoping it works out .... Sure it will. People always have a tendency to trust their hard earned money to new characters with an explaimation mark portrait Originally by: Dianabolic Your tears are absolutely divine, like a fine fine wine, rolling down your cheeks until they flow down the river of LOL
Ikki Phoenix	Posted - 2008.04.06 14:20:00 - [30] I am not even sure this project is any legal in Eve EveMag:Download Location 2 EveMag:Download Location 3

Norjia Blacksteel	Posted - 2008.04.06 15:32:00 - [31] Originally by: Zaerlorth Maelkor I don't have anything against it personally, but. This can't possibly be legal. It's betting with ISK. If it's not in the EULA that you can't bet then given CCPs hands-off policy, it's probably fine. I'd never put a dime into it though... ---- Norjia Blacksteel CEO Blacksteel Mining and Manufacturing
Achran Dexx	Posted - 2008.04.06 17:28:00 - [32] You say 'u', you don't capitalize 'I', you can't spell 'just', 'feasable' or 'received', and **** if I know what 'converstaion' means, why should I be trusting YOU of all people with my ISK?
Morcam	Posted - 2008.04.06 17:35:00 - [33] If you had come in with a vaguely specific post, and a well written one, along with posting your main, you may have gotten a decent response from the players of EvE. Instead, you came in with a post that reeks of scam, has no insurance, and looks like it was written by a roughly 6-10 year old. All that you have pointed out to us is that you cannot spell. Also, if you are going to pull the classic, "English is not my first language!" go learn some more of it, before trying to get people to give you money. This post is FailÖ.
Fester Lemming Imperial Academy	Posted - 2008.04.06 19:29:00 - [34] Scamalamadingdong! Ibtl
EVE Bet School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.04.06 19:35:00 - [35] English is my first lanuage ... i accept i didnt check for errors throughly enough and if u find a 10 year old that can run a bookmaking system let me know... and i have took a few bets alredy.... not many but its getting there
EvilBaa	Posted - 2008.04.06 19:42:00 - [36] Placed a bet for mossa to be places in the GP today and recived my isk about an hour ago ... good service hope it works out m8
Rebal 88	Posted - 2008.04.06 19:54:00 - [37] Good Luck! Hope it works out.
Stermy Sankkasen Mining Conglomerate The Omni Federation	Posted - 2008.04.06 20:15:00 - [38] I been thinking of starting this for Americans on Baseball, basketball and Football. Maybe even some golf, nascar or something. Anyway, good luck.
Markilios	Posted - 2008.04.06 20:47:00 - [39] I foresee the mobilization of a huge betting syndicate and perhaps a new chunk of 0.0 space gone.
EVE Bet School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.04.06 21:02:00 - [40] i will take bets on anything u ask... just mail me, i can work to baseballl, nascar ... american events im sure i could handle them

EvilSource R.E.C.O.N. The Volition Cult	Posted - 2008.04.06 21:48:00 - [41] Edited by: EvilSource on 06/04/2008 21:48:08 For all the people asking this is my (EVE Bet's) main , and i will make a further post with my other alt ...
EvilEmbrace R.E.C.O.N. The Volition Cult	Posted - 2008.04.06 21:51:00 - [42] Other Alt to EVE Bet
Rorken principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.04.06 22:06:00 - [43] Edited by: Rorken on 06/04/2008 22:07:39 Edited by: Rorken on 06/04/2008 22:07:25 Edited by: Rorken on 06/04/2008 22:07:16 Originally by: Achran Dexx You say 'u', you don't capitalize 'I', you can't spell 'just', 'feasable' or 'received', and **** if I know what 'converstaion' means, why should I be trusting YOU of all people with my ISK? Then don't give him your ISK.....oh wait that would be too easy and you wouldn't get to insult him would you ? Good luck with the venture EVE Bet. Better not be a scam or I'll come after you since I intend on giving this a try
Ouzolover Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.04.07 00:53:00 - [44] Running a bet busines,means u know how to run the odds right.When u take bets,as many as your pocket can handle,it means u always have safe profit,without the smallest risk.Just like every bet company irl.And I would not like to see that happening in eve.It may not be a scam,but imo it breaks the game.It's easy 'n' 100% safe money,just sitting in a station.
KeeperOf Truth	Posted - 2008.04.07 03:11:00 - [45] These kind of activities may not draw CCP's attention as long as they stay in reasonable size and game content. The problem starts when some people who enjoys gambling uses them as a tool to gamble for real. Since gambling for couple dollars wont satisfy those people , it can get a red flag once people start buying hundreds of dollars isk, betting and selling those isk for cashing out once they win. I am sure you would want to expand your project just like any other person but this is kind of subject which can go out of control easily even intentions are good. I will not say sports betting should be banned from Eve, but I would definitely be against it if your organization is linked to isk buying/selling in the future..
EVE Bet	Posted - 2008.04.07 06:56:00 - [46] currently i do not have the fund to take suck bets 100s of dollars were talking billions of isk, and currently i unable to take such bets as i simple dont have the funds... bets are currently being limited to arround 25 million isk ... however i will wish to increases this in the futer, however it is impossible to fund such bets without taking MANY more bets. as to buying/selling of isk if any player making bets was ever linked with the buying or selling of isk and it was possible for me to find out i would instantly refund the bet and ban further bets. also if i was to take bets in the future of billions of isk i would not do so without thorough thought.
EVE Bet	Posted - 2008.04.07 06:59:00 - [47] Edited by: EVE Bet on 07/04/2008 07:00:09 and running a sucesfull betting system is NOT 100% free money.... betting shops do regularly come out on top but it is possible for them to loose out however the chance of loosing becomes MUCH smaller the greater number / ammount of money u take in bets on a event. as for the person intending to give it a try thank you for your interest and support. please contact me via ingame mail if i am not online for any event u wish to place a bet on and i will supply you with odds.
Achran Dexx	Posted - 2008.04.07 07:07:00 - [48] Originally by: Rorken Edited by: Rorken on 06/04/2008 22:07:39 Edited by: Rorken on 06/04/2008 22:07:25 Edited by: Rorken on 06/04/2008 22:07:16 Originally by: Achran Dexx You say 'u', you don't capitalize 'I', you can't spell 'just', 'feasable' or 'received', and **** if I know what 'converstaion' means, why should I be trusting YOU of all people with my ISK? Then don't give him your ISK.....oh wait that would be too easy and you wouldn't get to insult him would you ? Good luck with the venture EVE Bet. Better not be a scam or I'll come after you since I intend on giving this a try I'm in no way insulting him, I am just making him know the fact that the aura he is radiating is the complete opposite people will want to see in a bookie.
EVE Bet	Posted - 2008.04.07 07:57:00 - [49] Edited by: EVE Bet on 07/04/2008 07:57:12 For all the people complaining about my apalling spelling i have updated the inital post as the origional was somthing i threw together for a quick lauch.
EvilBaa	Posted - 2008.04.07 11:46:00 - [50] nice service. guess i lost this time round :D hope it goes well !!

EvilSource	Posted - 2008.04.07 15:45:00 - [51] Unlucky m8... you still have the bet for tonight :)
EVE Bet School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.04.08 07:32:00 - [52] nice win last night baa :)
EvilSource R.E.C.O.N. The Volition Cult	Posted - 2008.04.08 12:29:00 - [53] New Odds Added!
EVE Bet School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.04.08 20:47:00 - [54] Payouts have been made for the 2 Champions League Quarter Finals... Please check your inboxes, wallets and post feedback.
Achran Dexx CompleXion Industries	Posted - 2008.04.08 20:54:00 - [55] Why did chelsea win :( Anyways, not too bad a service, next time do use a spellchecker before posting :P
EVE Bet School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.04.08 21:07:00 - [56] im glad chelsea won ... fenerbache winning would have cost me 400 mil :P haha. and sorry about the apalling spelling on origional ... has been updated
GarbleGarble Imperial Academy	Posted - 2008.04.08 22:04:00 - [57] Um put 140mil on Chelsea still have not received ISK
EVE Bet	Posted - 2008.04.09 07:51:00 - [58] dont lie... please... and it clearly states on origional post maximum bet is 15 mil so ... stop trying to ruin my business... i will post a screen shot of my trasactions to disprove this

CCP Navigator	Posted - 2008.04.09 07:56:00 - [59] This thread does not belong in General Discussion. Moved to Events. Navigator, Community Representative EVE Online, CCP Games Email/Netfang

EvilBaa Caldari Broken Radar	Posted - 2008.04.09 19:23:00 - [60] good clean service. thanks for my winnings :D

Leonora Webb Gallente Novus Satus The Threshold	Posted - 2008.04.09 21:38:00 - [61] Tested this service tonight for the first time, I can vouch for it, my winnings were sent promptly.
WarHound Amarr The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2008.04.10 03:56:00 - [62] same here !
EVE Bet	Posted - 2008.04.11 15:19:00 - [63] payouts made for last nights matches
EvilSource Amarr R.E.C.O.N. Insurgency	Posted - 2008.04.18 11:06:00 - [64] just bumping post :)
Celestial Demon Ministry of War	Posted - 2008.05.04 23:47:00 - [65] I think I won a game yesterday. I hate to rush you but im broke and would love to be paid soon.

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