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Kolmogorow
Freedom Resources
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Posted - 2008.04.08 14:51:00 -
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Originally by: coolie oberon There was no note of explanation
Really hard to believe. There is always a possibility of a mistake. Taking money without giving a reason is simply a theft.
Originally by: coolie oberon "pray we do not investigate further"
In other words: The GM wasn't even sure whether his action was justified.
You could bring CCP to court because they restricted you to play the game for the money you pay (unless the EULA allows something like this, then the EULA has at least one very bad paragraph obviously).
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Kolmogorow
Freedom Resources
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Posted - 2008.04.08 15:59:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T ...the EULA pretty much states that CCP can simply terminate any account at any given time, even without having to give a reason at all. Didn't you EVER read the EULA ?
No. But I did now read the part "Suspension of Account": it says that the account can be suspended WITHOUT NOTICE ... IN THE EVENT OF ... breach of EULA or unauthorized access. This is like being arrested in case of a serious suspicion to be a murderer where noone tells you before, "hey, we will come in two hours and arrest you". Giving a reason is another thing, a Must in RL and at least good style in a game, whatever the EULA says.
Originally by: Akita T Were this a bar or club, it would have said "we reserve the right to pick our customers", as simple as that.
It's more like a bar which lets their customers in, lets them order their beer and then while they are drinking tells them: "Go, and we drink the rest!" I don't like those bars.
Originally by: Akita T ...there's no "attackable" point, legally.
I believe that at once. And I wasn't really serious with the court-thing. As I said taking ISK without giving a reason is hard to believe to me especially because my contact with GMs was always in a good style, there was never something like arbitrariness in their decisions. If they decided against my interest there was always at least a explanatory statement for their decision.
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Kolmogorow
Freedom Resources
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Posted - 2008.04.08 22:08:00 -
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Originally by: Gilmour Mistakes happen, nobodys perfect.
Yes. It would help a lot to reveal a possible mistake if in cases like the OP described - ISK buyer or not - a mail would be sent by the GM like "We have removed X ISK from your wallet because...". To explain nothing and answering when he asks for a reason "Shut up!" (the answer he got wasn't much better) is simply impossible.
Tbh I think something went wrong with this GM and I can't believe that this is the usual behaviour even against a proven ISK buyer.
Especially for new players it is easy to buy ISK without having the feeling to do something forbidden since even "serious" EVE-related websites advertise for buying ISK (or link adverts or have Google ads with links). You only need to not read the EULA (and who reads the complete EULA when he starts playing the game?) and not browse through the forum to feel happy about the "great" offer to buy ingame money for hard cash. That's not a justification for ISK buying but a motivation why there must always be a explanation for actions against a player, also for such capital crimes like buying ISK.
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