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Kolmogorow
Freedom Resources
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Posted - 2008.04.08 15:59:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T ...the EULA pretty much states that CCP can simply terminate any account at any given time, even without having to give a reason at all. Didn't you EVER read the EULA ?
No. But I did now read the part "Suspension of Account": it says that the account can be suspended WITHOUT NOTICE ... IN THE EVENT OF ... breach of EULA or unauthorized access. This is like being arrested in case of a serious suspicion to be a murderer where noone tells you before, "hey, we will come in two hours and arrest you". Giving a reason is another thing, a Must in RL and at least good style in a game, whatever the EULA says.
Originally by: Akita T Were this a bar or club, it would have said "we reserve the right to pick our customers", as simple as that.
It's more like a bar which lets their customers in, lets them order their beer and then while they are drinking tells them: "Go, and we drink the rest!" I don't like those bars.
Originally by: Akita T ...there's no "attackable" point, legally.
I believe that at once. And I wasn't really serious with the court-thing. As I said taking ISK without giving a reason is hard to believe to me especially because my contact with GMs was always in a good style, there was never something like arbitrariness in their decisions. If they decided against my interest there was always at least a explanatory statement for their decision.
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Bo Bojangles
Spartan Industrial Manufacturing SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.08 16:02:00 -
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Tarminic
Forsaken Resistance The Last Stand
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Posted - 2008.04.08 16:06:00 -
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Originally by: 4 Hire
Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: 4 Hire Twas a bit of sarcasm *sigh*
I would feel embarrassed, but I've seen real posts worse than that.
you lose 4m SP in forum warfare!
LIES! I always update my forum clone! ---------------- Tarminic - 34 Million SP in Forum Warfare Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.8 (Updated 4/7) |
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.04.08 16:09:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Prism X I like these threads, they provide me with interesting logs to read when I'm bored.
Read mine, read mine
I am curious, how did you manage to post in this thread without generating the dreaded "blue bars" (formerly known as "gold bars") around it ? CCP Prism X forum hax !
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Ki Anna
Ki Tech Industries
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Posted - 2008.04.08 16:27:00 -
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Originally by: Save You "Can I be held accountable for the previous owners actions?" After I paid $20 to have the character sent to me?
Yes you can if you paid to have the character sent to you, because you are not allowed to pay for the character transfer, the previous own must pay for the transfer.
However, if you really think that you did nothing wrong, file a petition, but remember what GM Guard said: Originally by: GM Guard Please note that intentionally unverifiable explanations will not result in us returning ISK, whereas true stories are usually easy to verify in our experience. In other words, please file a petition if you truly received the ISK legitimately but don't bother if you bought it. There are penalties for filing intentionally false petitions and if your ISK came from an ISK seller there is no chance of misleading us into returning it.
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Soporo
ironwood ink Friend or Enemy
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Posted - 2008.04.08 17:01:00 -
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Originally by: ry ry
Quote: "pray we do not investigate further"
the GMs should definitely do more Darth Vader stylee roleplay.
i find your lack of isk disturbing.
BAahahahaha!
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Tim Dust
The Scope
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Posted - 2008.04.08 17:04:00 -
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A GM killed my honey kitty and left me to die in this Turkish prison.
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Abrazzar
Equilibrium Inc. FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.04.08 17:14:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: CCP Prism X I like these threads, they provide me with interesting logs to read when I'm bored.
Read mine, read mine
I am curious, how did you manage to post in this thread without generating the dreaded "blue bars" (formerly known as "gold bars") around it ? CCP Prism X forum hax !
I think he edits his posts directly into the database instead of posting like any other mere mortal.
PrismX = Database God
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Tarminic
Forsaken Resistance The Last Stand
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Posted - 2008.04.08 17:21:00 -
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Originally by: Abrazzar
Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: CCP Prism X I like these threads, they provide me with interesting logs to read when I'm bored.
Read mine, read mine
I am curious, how did you manage to post in this thread without generating the dreaded "blue bars" (formerly known as "gold bars") around it ? CCP Prism X forum hax !
I think he edits his posts directly into the database instead of posting like any other mere mortal.
PrismX = Database God
All real database admins enter data directly. Inefficient web-based interfaces? **** 'EM! I PEE IN SQL *****! ---------------- Tarminic - 34 Million SP in Forum Warfare Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.8 (Updated 4/7) |
Tyr Vaantau
Synthetic Frontiers Blue Federation
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Posted - 2008.04.08 17:22:00 -
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Radio silence from the OP pretty much says it all: Guilty. ------
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Ki Anna
Ki Tech Industries
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Posted - 2008.04.08 17:47:00 -
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Originally by: Tarminic **** 'EM! I PEE IN SQL *****!
BEGIN TRANSACTION; INSERT INTO Urinal (Fluids) SELECT Fluids FROM Blader WHERE Fluids IS Urine; DELETE FROM Blader WHERE Fluids IS Urine; COMMIT TRANSACTION;
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Winterblink
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2008.04.08 17:51:00 -
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INSERT INTO Urinal (Fluids) SELECT Fluids FROM Blader WHERE Fluids IS Urine; * 11:49:16 ORA-00942: table or view does not exist
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Tarminic
Forsaken Resistance The Last Stand
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Posted - 2008.04.08 17:51:00 -
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Originally by: Ki Anna
Originally by: Tarminic **** 'EM! I PEE IN SQL *****!
BEGIN TRANSACTION; INSERT INTO Urinal (Fluids) SELECT Fluids FROM Blader WHERE Fluids IS Urine; DELETE FROM Blader WHERE Fluids IS Urine; COMMIT TRANSACTION;
Why in the HELL would you need to use transactions when you're removing fluids from your bladder?!
---------------- Tarminic - 34 Million SP in Forum Warfare Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.8 (Updated 4/7) |
Ephemeron
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.08 18:03:00 -
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I'm curious: what would happen if he bought 1000 mil on his alt, then purched 1000 mil worth of trit, transfered it to his main character, sold it.
GMs take away 1000 mil from his alt, he simply deletes the alt. What then?
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Nyphur
Pillowsoft
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Posted - 2008.04.08 18:05:00 -
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Originally by: Ephemeron I'm curious: what would happen if he bought 1000 mil on his alt, then purched 1000 mil worth of trit, transfered it to his main character, sold it.
GMs take away 1000 mil from his alt, he simply deletes the alt. What then?
If someone did this, GMs would delete 1000 mil from his main, not his alt, because it's painfully obvious that the isk purchased was transferred to his main.
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northwesten
Trinity Corporate Services
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Posted - 2008.04.08 18:13:00 -
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well as the GM watching this thread can i make love to the CEO of CCP kitten?
Trinity Corporate Services
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Burnharder
Tiny Industries
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Posted - 2008.04.08 18:16:00 -
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Originally by: Winterblink
INSERT INTO Urinal (Fluids) SELECT Fluids FROM Blader WHERE Fluids IS Urine; * 11:49:16 ORA-00942: table or view does not exist
So it's true Sir. You are the world's most intelligent potato.
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SoftRevolution
Complicity.
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Posted - 2008.04.08 18:25:00 -
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Originally by: Ephemeron I'm curious: what would happen if he bought 1000 mil on his alt, then purched 1000 mil worth of trit, transfered it to his main character, sold it.
GMs take away 1000 mil from his alt, he simply deletes the alt. What then?
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Tarminic
Forsaken Resistance The Last Stand
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Posted - 2008.04.08 18:30:00 -
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Originally by: Winterblink
INSERT INTO Urinal (Fluids) SELECT Fluids FROM Blader WHERE Fluids IS Urine; * 11:49:16 ORA-00942: table or view does not exist
I'm concerned about the other fluids you store in your bladder. ---------------- Tarminic - 34 Million SP in Forum Warfare Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.8 (Updated 4/7) |
Winterblink
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2008.04.08 18:33:00 -
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Originally by: Tarminic I'm concerned about the other fluids you store in your bladder.
Don't ask me, ask the other guy. :)
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Zanpt
Lone Star Mining and Manufacturing Ultionis Quietus
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Posted - 2008.04.08 18:34:00 -
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Originally by: coolie oberon GM took 664 million isk from me, dropping me to below -430 mil There was no note of explanation, and petitions asking to discuss it were greeted with Vader-like -- "pray we do not investigate further" warnings. After playing Eve for over a year I really am shocked at the way the GM treated me.
This just happened to one of our people to the extent of about 500 mil, and the lack of explanation is totally unacceptable. As far as "pray we do not investigate further," bite me. Rather, CCP should pray we do not cut off their revenue. You can bet this will be escalated and petitions filed until we DO have a rational explanation. 60+ account holders in our alliance are alarmed by this and watching it closely. Several of us operate public websites and will be happy to post the story there if CCP doesn't shape up and start behaving professionally.
No, our guy didn't buy ISK. He sold a fully fitted BS on The Market months ago, for a reasonable price.
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Burnharder
Tiny Industries
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Posted - 2008.04.08 18:57:00 -
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Originally by: Zanpt
Originally by: coolie oberon GM took 664 million isk from me, dropping me to below -430 mil There was no note of explanation, and petitions asking to discuss it were greeted with Vader-like -- "pray we do not investigate further" warnings. After playing Eve for over a year I really am shocked at the way the GM treated me.
This just happened to one of our people to the extent of about 500 mil, and the lack of explanation is totally unacceptable. As far as "pray we do not investigate further," bite me. Rather, CCP should pray we do not cut off their revenue. You can bet this will be escalated and petitions filed until we DO have a rational explanation. 60+ account holders in our alliance are alarmed by this and watching it closely. Several of us operate public websites and will be happy to post the story there if CCP doesn't shape up and start behaving professionally.
No, our guy didn't buy ISK. He sold a fully fitted BS on The Market months ago, for a reasonable price.
It's amazing to me that there is so much ISK selling going on but not a single person ever seems to buy any.
I'm guessing your man sold a battleship to a character that had bought ISK to pay for it. The questions are: where did the BS come, where did it end up, how much was it worth and how much was it bought for?
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Bordric
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.04.08 19:08:00 -
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Unless you sold a Navy Raven or something for 640 million or some other cool item you aren't getting anything and you best take the advice of not pushing the investigation.
If someone just happened to give you 640 million Isk out of the kindness of their heart well your good friend should have no problem explaining it.
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Twin blade
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2008.04.08 19:27:00 -
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Edited by: Twin blade on 08/04/2008 19:28:17 All your ISK are belong to us now. Death is great rember where all dying to get there. |
Pwett
QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony
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Posted - 2008.04.08 19:38:00 -
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Originally by: Tarminic
Why in the HELL would you need to use transactions when you're removing fluids from your bladder?!
Because if I wanted to insert my fluids into the urinal, it would be very awkward if I was inserting fluids into the urinal at the same time Blader was.
There's laws against that! _______________ Pwett CEO, Founder, & Executor <Q> QUANT Hegemony
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Tarminic
Forsaken Resistance The Last Stand
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Posted - 2008.04.08 19:49:00 -
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Originally by: Pwett
Originally by: Tarminic
Why in the HELL would you need to use transactions when you're removing fluids from your bladder?!
Because if I wanted to insert my fluids into the urinal, it would be very awkward if I was inserting fluids into the urinal at the same time Blader was.
There's laws against that!
Ah, you make a good point. ---------------- Tarminic - 34 Million SP in Forum Warfare Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.8 (Updated 4/7) |
Winterblink
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2008.04.08 19:51:00 -
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Edited by: Winterblink on 08/04/2008 19:52:14
Originally by: Tarminic Ah, you make a good point.
Does he? Last I heard there was no database with urinal locking. And even if there was, imagine being the poor bugger getting his transaction rolled back.
Ow?
Edit: on second thought if someone's trying to do that in someone else's urinal maybe he deserves it. :)
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Zanpt
Lone Star Mining and Manufacturing Ultionis Quietus
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Posted - 2008.04.08 19:55:00 -
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Originally by: Burnharder
Originally by: Zanpt
This just happened to one of our people to the extent of about 500 mil, and the lack of explanation is totally unacceptable. As far as "pray we do not investigate further," bite me. Rather, CCP should pray we do not cut off their revenue. You can bet this will be escalated and petitions filed until we DO have a rational explanation. 60+ account holders in our alliance are alarmed by this and watching it closely. Several of us operate public websites and will be happy to post the story there if CCP doesn't shape up and start behaving professionally.
No, our guy didn't buy ISK. He sold a fully fitted BS on The Market months ago, for a reasonable price.
It's amazing to me that there is so much ISK selling going on but not a single person ever seems to buy any.
Bite me.
Originally by: Burnharder I'm guessing your man sold a battleship to a character that had bought ISK to pay for it.
The problem is, how would one know? Public market sales and contract sales are taken up by anyone who pays the money. One doesn't even find out who bought it until after the fact.
Originally by: Burnharder The questions are: where did the BS come, where did it end up, how much was it worth and how much was it bought for?
The BS was manuf'd or bought. It ended up with the buyer. On the market or contracts, the seller has no control over that. It was worth the 500 mil it was sold for. Until recently ordinary BS models were in the 100 mil range, and fittings could push that up to anywhere as high as a few billion, although one wouldn't usually see the really expensive faction fittings on an ordinary BS, only on a Navy BS. Last I checked, faction launchers were about 70 mil each and faction tanking modules anywhere from 50 mil to 500 mil and even higher. 500 mil for a fully fitted BS is entirely possible without any hanky panky. I have at least one ordinary BS worth that much with its faction fittings. Furthermore, a BS with expensive rigs would be sold on contract with the rigs, not without, as they can't be removed without being lost in the process.
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Tarminic
Forsaken Resistance The Last Stand
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Posted - 2008.04.08 19:57:00 -
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Originally by: Winterblink Edited by: Winterblink on 08/04/2008 19:52:14
Originally by: Tarminic Ah, you make a good point.
Does he? Last I heard there was no database with urinal locking. And even if there was, imagine being the poor bugger getting his transaction rolled back.
You make a better point. ---------------- Tarminic - 34 Million SP in Forum Warfare Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.8 (Updated 4/7) |
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.04.08 19:58:00 -
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Originally by: Zanpt angry stuff
If what you say is true, all the player in question has to do is to keep escalating petitions until the ISK is returned to him.
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