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Xaen
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Posted - 2008.04.08 15:27:00 -
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I'll take things like this seriously when the ISK channel and EVEMail spam cease.
There's no reason CCP can't stop it entirely with a mere bayesian filter on chat and EVE mail, but they seem to think it's too hard, so don't even try.
If Google can do it for all of Gmail without perceivable slowdown of mail delivery, surely CCP can do it for a tiny fraction of the number of accounts and messages that comprises TQ.
I'm tired of the excuses. Reporting sellers is a waste of my time, they'll be back on a new account in less time than it takes me to report them. - Support fixing the UI|Suggest Jita fixes|Compact logs |

Xaen
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Posted - 2008.04.08 16:30:00 -
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Originally by: GM Krymus
Originally by: Xaen I'll take things like this seriously when the ISK channel and EVEMail spam cease.
There's no reason CCP can't stop it entirely with a mere bayesian filter on chat and EVE mail, but they seem to think it's too hard, so don't even try.
If Google can do it for all of Gmail without perceivable slowdown of mail delivery, surely CCP can do it for a tiny fraction of the number of accounts and messages that comprises TQ.
I'm tired of the excuses. Reporting sellers is a waste of my time, they'll be back on a new account in less time than it takes me to report them.
I completely understand your concerns with regards to this. You may or may not have noticed the dramatic reduction in spam since the deployment of Trinity 1.1, in which a large number of features (as mentioned in the dev blog) were introduced. I agree that if any spam is able to get through (which, unfortunately, some still does) then there is room for improvement. Please be assured that we will continue to work on developing tools to prevent spam from reaching players.
I haven't noticed a difference.
My SAK alt is still pummeled every 30-90 seconds ISK ads in corp chat. And it's painfully obvious what they are. Price lists anyone?
And Xaen still gets 2-3 evemail spams a week, same as before.
Most of what I see is so obviously ISK spam that any halfassed bayesian filter would nail it in a heartbeat. But you're not using one.
Without giving away circumvention techniques, is there any way to describe what was actually done? I hope it wasn't some stopgap measure like banning accounts. That's like trying to fight a flood with a stick. - Support fixing the UI|Suggest Jita fixes|Compact logs |

Xaen
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Posted - 2008.04.08 20:45:00 -
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Originally by: GM Faolchu
Originally by: Xaen My SAK alt is still pummeled every 30-90 seconds ISK ads in corp chat. And it's painfully obvious what they are. Price lists anyone?
I'll be spending the rest of my shift sitting in this channel, so far I haven't see anything but I'll keep an eye out.
I could just send you the log snippets.
Sadly, I think little ole grep is capable of finding most of the ISK ads. - Support fixing the UI|Suggest Jita fixes|Compact logs |

Xaen
Caldari Caritas.
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Posted - 2008.04.09 13:21:00 -
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Originally by: SillyWaif
Originally by: Xaen
My SAK alt is still pummeled every 30-90 seconds ISK ads in corp chat. And it's painfully obvious what they are. Price lists anyone?
And Xaen still gets 2-3 evemail spams a week, same as before.
Maybe it's not an option you (want to) use: I have set my CSPA charge to 1 Mil ISK and after that the number spam mails have greatly reduced. I rarely get them these days, luckily. Intention was 'to make them pay' 
That won't help the ads in corp chat as I said above. - Support fixing the UI|Suggest Jita fixes|Compact logs |

Xaen
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Posted - 2008.04.09 14:19:00 -
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Originally by: GM Faolchu I'll be spending the rest of my shift sitting in this channel, so far I haven't see anything but I'll keep an eye out.
Just in case you missed it, or they read your post, here's some greped out of my corplog with this little regex: "\\$.*[0-9]m\|[0-9]m.*\\$"
[ 2008.04.05 21:10:00 ] a8xwce > www[snip]com 100M+6%Free= $6.991000M+6%Free=$691500M+6%Free=103 ISK and ITEMS2000M+7%Free=$1392500M+7%Free=$1723000M+7%Free=$2065000M+8%Free=$344www[snip]com [ 2008.04.05 21:10:06 ] a8xwce > www[snip]com 100M+6%Free= $6.991000M+6%Free=$691500M+6%Free=103 ISK and ITEMS2000M+7%Free=$1392500M+7%Free=$1723000M+7%Free=$2065000M+8%Free=$344www[snip]com [ 2008.04.05 21:10:49 ] a8xwce > www[snip]com 100M+6%Free= $6.991000M+6%Free=$691500M+6%Free=103 ISK and ITEMS2000M+7%Free=$1392500M+7%Free=$1723000M+7%Free=$2065000M+8%Free=$344www[snip]com [ 2008.04.05 21:13:00 ] a8xwce > www[snip]com 100M+6%Free= $6.991000M+6%Free=$691500M+6%Free=103 ISK and ITEMS2000M+7%Free=$1392500M+7%Free=$1723000M+7%Free=$2065000M+8%Free=$344www[snip]com [ 2008.04.06 23:35:02 ] z68xdh > www[snip]com 100M+6%Free= $6.991000M+6%Free=$691500M+6%Free=103 ISK and ITEMS2000M+7%Free=$1392500M+7%Free=$1723000M+7%Free=$2065000M+8%Free=$344www[snip]com [ 2008.04.06 23:35:41 ] z68xdh > www[snip]com 100M+6%Free= $6.991000M+6%Free=$691500M+6%Free=103 ISK and ITEMS2000M+7%Free=$1392500M+7%Free=$1723000M+7%Free=$2065000M+8%Free=$344www[snip]com [ 2008.04.06 23:36:08 ] z68xdh > www[snip]com 100M+6%Free= $6.991000M+6%Free=$691500M+6%Free=103 ISK and ITEMS2000M+7%Free=$1392500M+7%Free=$1723000M+7%Free=$2065000M+8%Free=$344www[snip]com [ 2008.04.06 23:36:44 ] z68xdh > www[snip]com 100M+6%Free= $6.991000M+6%Free=$691500M+6%Free=103 ISK and ITEMS2000M+7%Free=$1392500M+7%Free=$1723000M+7%Free=$2065000M+8%Free=$344www[snip]com [ 2008.04.06 23:37:24 ] z68xdh > www[snip]com 100M+6%Free= $6.991000M+6%Free=$691500M+6%Free=103 ISK and ITEMS2000M+7%Free=$1392500M+7%Free=$1723000M+7%Free=$2065000M+8%Free=$344www[snip]com [ 2008.04.06 23:38:21 ] z68xdh > www[snip]com 100M+6%Free= $6.991000M+6%Free=$691500M+6%Free=103 ISK and ITEMS2000M+7%Free=$1392500M+7%Free=$1723000M+7%Free=$2065000M+8%Free=$344www[snip]com [ 2008.04.06 23:39:15 ] z68xdh > www[snip]com 100M+6%Free= $6.991000M+6%Free=$691500M+6%Free=103 ISK and ITEMS2000M+7%Free=$1392500M+7%Free=$1723000M+7%Free=$2065000M+8%Free=$344www[snip]com [ 2008.04.06 23:39:39 ] z68xdh > www[snip]com 100M+6%Free= $6.991000M+6%Free=$691500M+6%Free=103 ISK and ITEMS2000M+7%Free=$1392500M+7%Free=$1723000M+7%Free=$2065000M+8%Free=$344www[snip]com [ 2008.04.06 23:40:22 ] z68xdh > www[snip]com 100M+6%Free= $6.991000M+6%Free=$691500M+6%Free=103 ISK and ITEMS2000M+7%Free=$1392500M+7%Free=$1723000M+7%Free=$2065000M+8%Free=$344www[snip]com [ 2008.04.06 23:41:08 ] z68xdh > www[snip]com 100M+6%Free= $6.991000M+6%Free=$691500M+6%Free=103 ISK and ITEMS2000M+7%Free=$1392500M+7%Free=$1723000M+7%Free=$2065000M+8%Free=$344www[snip]com [ 2008.04.06 23:43:35 ] z68xdh > www[snip]com 100M+6%Free= $6.991000M+6%Free=$691500M+6%Free=103 ISK and ITEMS2000M+7%Free=$1392500M+7%Free=$1723000M+7%Free=$2065000M+8%Free=$344www[snip]com [ 2008.04.06 23:44:14 ] z68xdh > www[snip]com 100M+6%Free= $6.991000M+6%Free=$691500M+6%Free=103 ISK and ITEMS2000M+7%Free=$1392500M+7%Free=$1723000M+7%Free=$2065000M+8%Free=$344www[snip]com [ 2008.04.06 23:49:10 ] z68xdh > www[snip]com 100M+6%Free= $6.991000M+6%Free=$691500M+6%Free=103 ISK and ITEMS2000M+7%Free=$1392500M+7%Free=$1723000M+7%Free=$2065000M+8%Free=$344www[snip]com [ 2008.04.06 23:49:51 ] z68xdh > www[snip]com 100M+6%Free= $6.991000M+6%Free=$691500M+6%Free=103 ISK and ITEMS2000M+7%Free=$1392500M+
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Xaen
Caldari Caritas.
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Posted - 2008.04.09 20:12:00 -
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Originally by: Thathys Buying secure ETC codes for selling,isn't that Isk selling?
Players can still buy as much Isk as i want from CCP,if they have enough dollars!?
Shouldn't there be a limit to how much you can buy?
Maby i'm stupid! correct me if i have understood wrong. :)
You're not buying it from CCP. ISK purchased from the secure GTC site comes from a player. They have to get it through the same means you do, odds are they simply have more time to do it. If CCP just "printed" ISK the economy would take a dive in a hurry. - Support fixing the UI|Suggest Jita fixes|Compact logs |

Xaen
Caldari Caritas.
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Posted - 2008.04.10 13:44:00 -
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Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton mommy why do the rich kids get to plop more quarters into the arcade machines 
So that the poor kids can play the game for free?
I don't have a problem with it since it's other players they're buying isk from. - Support fixing the UI|Suggest Jita fixes|Compact logs |
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