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Anaalys Fluuterby
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Posted - 2008.04.09 05:53:00 -
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Originally by: Spaztick
Stuff
Did you wind up in the wrong thread?
Originally by: Audri Fisher On the other, the emo tears being cryed in this thread tell me that just because you shoot somebody for a living, does not mean you aren't a carebear
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Lithalnas
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Posted - 2008.04.09 05:54:00 -
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Quote: Spaztick's stuff
dude, thats ether copy pasta or you really need to get out more, and half of it is relatively off topic. ------------- Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. fixed for greater eve content |
Zartach Tzarszh
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Posted - 2008.04.09 05:56:00 -
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LOL
No really, "LOL". I ain't laughing though.
fakeedit: WOW ->
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Flibbeteh
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Posted - 2008.04.09 05:59:00 -
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Edited by: Flibbeteh on 09/04/2008 05:59:41 You're a role player aren't you? heh.
Quote: "Without checks and balances, craven, morally crippled lumpenproletariats are free to render unspeakable and unthinkable whole categories of beliefs about power"
Although that is what we're saying in a nutshell, that wouldn't get the point across. The criticism should provide reasons as to why they are saying what they are rather than bland statements that leave the reader ignorant to his cause.
Plus, granted Laveth's a casual player, he's going to have a hell of a time reading what you've just posted. I mean, who says "lumpenproletariats" on a regular basis. Damn, heh. It seems you're almost forcing that.
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Skjorta
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Posted - 2008.04.09 06:01:00 -
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no. gtfodiafthx.
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TimMc
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Posted - 2008.04.09 06:07:00 -
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Originally by: Laveth
Originally by: Lithalnas Might i suggest
X3 Freelancer DarkStar One Independence Wars II
all non PvP games, i think thats more what you want, no online at all.
Thanks for the sugestions i will take a look at thos games.
Those games are awesome.
Laveth, if you don't want PvP then stay out of Low-sec. For the moment level 4 agents do exist in high security space.
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Zarin
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Posted - 2008.04.09 06:14:00 -
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Eve is a PvP game, you cannot play it without some interaction with other players, be it buying ammo or ships they made, or others killing players so that you have buyers for the ships you make. It is virtually impossible to not interact with other players, if you don't wish to engage in PvP you have to go somewhere else. Empire is a very 'safe' way to 'limit' your negative interactions with combat PvP, but it doesn't prevent it. There will never be another server so if you can't deal with being in 'safe enough' space you need to find another game.
I somehow played the first 2 years of this game (and since played another 2) without losing a single ship to another player, despite going through lowsec etc. So it's quite possible to avoid, but the only way to be certain not to lose is to not play.
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Laveth
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Posted - 2008.04.09 06:57:00 -
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Originally by: TimMc
Originally by: Laveth
Originally by: Lithalnas Might i suggest
X3 Freelancer DarkStar One Independence Wars II
all non PvP games, i think thats more what you want, no online at all.
do level 4 agents give you good isk and do they allow you to fight battle ship size npc's?
Thanks for the sugestions i will take a look at thos games.
Those games are awesome.
Laveth, if you don't want PvP then stay out of Low-sec. For the moment level 4 agents do exist in high security space.
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Kyra Felann
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Posted - 2008.04.09 06:59:00 -
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I want a no-whining-about-PvP-in-a-PvP-game server.
In short, *************** no. It will never happen, and if it did, lots of people would probably quit, because it would mean that CCP had totally abandoned everything that makes Eve Eve. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. |
Inertial
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Posted - 2008.04.09 07:18:00 -
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Originally by: Laveth Edited by: Laveth on 09/04/2008 07:07:04
do level 4 agents give you good isk and do they allow you to fight battle ship size npc's?
Yes! Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. |
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Lord WarATron
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Posted - 2008.04.09 07:29:00 -
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Edited by: Lord WarATron on 09/04/2008 07:29:27 Its a troll but I will answer the question anyway.
Eve is a game where player production is the economy. Without stuff getting blown, nobody would buy minerals, nobody would manufacture and 0.0 wars would not exist. Basically the non-pvpers would end up with a flooded market as stuff does not get destroyed. The fact losses means something means that there is no "counter-strike" respawn style battles. Losses hurt people so when 2 "armies" fight each other, you can actually inflict losses that mean something. It also makes a point for people to fight for space insted of sitting back "counter strike" style. Stuff getting blown up increases the price oyu can sell mission loot/minerals for and keeps miners earning lots of isk.
in Hig sec spare, you are safe to do your business in the Default NPC corp. Obviously if you carry billions of cargo in a t1 hauler afk on a gate, someone will probebly suicide gank you, but other than that, you are pretty safe. -- Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. Billion Isk Mission |
Achran Dexx
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Posted - 2008.04.09 07:31:00 -
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So... You want to play without hazard in a LOW SECURITY area? ******* idiocy I tell you.
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NightmareX
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Posted - 2008.04.09 07:39:00 -
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Edited by: NightmareX on 09/04/2008 07:40:40 How are you gonna make isk on a server where no one buys any items / modules?. It's mostly the PVPers who are keeping the market alive.
You mine, and sell the minerals to another player, the other player got the minerals to build things, then he build alot of things.........oh wait a sec, who want to buy all of the stuffs i just made?
If no one buys anything, then the builders wont buy any minerals either. Because if they don't need to build anything, then they don't need the minerals.
There will be no one that will buy any modules there then. Or maybe someone will buy something if someone just lost a ship or something in a mission etc.
Believe me, you can make a **** load more isk with everything on the same server. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. |
AngeFredinauQwertia
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Posted - 2008.04.09 07:41:00 -
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EVE is pvp game blablabla.. We are already have test server and china shard so what? EVE is already sharded.
Sooner or later EVE pve server will appear, if not, there will be soon another cosmic mmorpg for pve only. So does it realy matter if eve wiil have just another server or all those pve people just go to another game? It doesn't realy matter.
As for me, as soon as some alternative pve server(or another game) will appear, i'll choice pve server instead of tranq serv. I'd like to play cosmic based mmorpg (without any fantasy elves and orcs!!!) with interesting pve content, nice game storyline while chatting with friends online without pvp (or with pvp by agreement). I can assure you, it will not be borring.
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Rawr Cristina
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Posted - 2008.04.09 07:43:00 -
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Originally by: Khalm
Originally by: main notworking Edited by: main notworking on 09/04/2008 05:09:02 Well you should not have to go to a "test" server so that you can play without the fear of being killed by someone 100 times stronger then you
omfg just quit..
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NightmareX
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Posted - 2008.04.09 07:46:00 -
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Originally by: AngeFredinauQwertia EVE is pvp game blablabla.. We are already have test server and china shard so what? EVE is already sharded.
Sooner or later EVE pve server will appear, if not, there will be soon another cosmic mmorpg for pve only. So does it realy matter if eve wiil have just another server or all those pve people just go to another game? It doesn't realy matter.
As for me, as soon as some alternative pve server(or another game) will appear, i'll choice pve server instead of tranq serv. I'd like to play cosmic based mmorpg (without any fantasy elves and orcs!!!) with interesting pve content, nice game storyline while chatting with friends online without pvp (or with pvp by agreement). I can assure you, it will not be borring.
There will never be a PVE server in EVE. The whole concept with EVE is to have everything on the same server.
And by the way. CCP is soon gonna upgrade / change out the current server to something called Infiniband. Info about Infiniband HERE.
And after what i know about that, it will kill everything that is called lag, module lag everywhere. Like in big fleet fights etc. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. |
Zeba
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Posted - 2008.04.09 07:57:00 -
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If the op wants to play eve with no consentual combat then he needs to play on the test server. Noone anywhere except the FD-MLJ system. You will effectively have the whole game to yourself and as an added bonus everything is only 100 isk. All the devs ask you to do is to report any bugs you find.
Have fun.
Originally by: Malcanis Too many people confuse "Waah, I didn't get my own way" with 'poor customer service'.
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Schani Kratnorr
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Posted - 2008.04.09 07:59:00 -
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When I want to play "solo EVE", I grab a game of Sins of a solar empire.
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AeonOfTime
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Posted - 2008.04.09 07:59:00 -
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Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker
NO. EVE is all about PvP, and it should stay that way.
Interesting statement. I have been playing for over a year, and have never engaged in PvP. Geee, I wonder what I can have been doing all that time! -- Read the captain's log at eve.aeonoftime.com The solo player's corporation - Syrkos Technologies |
Cissnei
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Posted - 2008.04.09 08:05:00 -
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Originally by: Lord WarATron Edited by: Lord WarATron on 09/04/2008 07:29:27 Its a troll but I will answer the question anyway.
Eve is a game where player production is the economy. Without stuff getting blown, nobody would buy minerals, nobody would manufacture and 0.0 wars would not exist. Basically the non-pvpers would end up with a flooded market as stuff does not get destroyed. The fact losses means something means that there is no "counter-strike" respawn style battles. Losses hurt people so when 2 "armies" fight each other, you can actually inflict losses that mean something. It also makes a point for people to fight for space insted of sitting back "counter strike" style. Stuff getting blown up increases the price oyu can sell mission loot/minerals for and keeps miners earning lots of isk.
in Hig sec spare, you are safe to do your business in the Default NPC corp. Obviously if you carry billions of cargo in a t1 hauler afk on a gate, someone will probebly suicide gank you, but other than that, you are pretty safe.
PVP allows devs to be lazy when it comes to developing clever or complicated NPC ai
the pve game in ever is stupidly easy. within a few hours of starting anew character you are in a kestrel blowing up level 1 missions that are little to no challenge. in order to progress to the next level is a waiting game of skillups, with no actual skill involved
if the devs were to create a pve centric version, they could ramp up the pve substantially so that there is a market for player created goods still. remove insurance payouts, remove all but the first two frigates of any race (and shuttles) from the market.
if we are talking about a new, clean server it will take quite a while for things to ramp up production wise. remember this game will be 5 years old this year. that's a bloody generation in mmorpg terms.
mostly i would prefer there just be some restrictions on war decs, or make them cost 500 million isk per week to maintain. hell from the posts here on buying gtc's you are all rich anyway so 500m should be a drop in the bucket in a 5 year old game where players have tens of BILLIONS and can make BILLIONS in a couple of days on level 4 pve-easymode missions
or were all those exaggerations too?
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Cissnei
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Posted - 2008.04.09 08:09:00 -
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Originally by: AeonOfTime
Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker
NO. EVE is all about PvP, and it should stay that way.
Interesting statement. I have been playing for over a year, and have never engaged in PvP. Geee, I wonder what I can have been doing all that time!
that's because eve is not a pvp game
2moons is a pvp game
rappelz is a pvp game
insertrandomkoreantrashimportmmorpghere is a pvp game
this is a sandbox game. it's (almost) 100% player created and run content. even agent missions are just repetive nonsense along the lines of city of heroes - but at least those have far more engaging storylines.
this is not a pvp game. it's a unique sandbox mmorpg with all the bad and good a sandbox entails. the good being you get to play with your fellow man in their content. the bad being you have to play with your fellow closet wannabe-terrorist. the really bad is that they can quite often exploit you in ways that arent legal in even the real world (stealing is illegal, and we dont shoot people who steal with us in a civilized society).
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Yosarian
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Posted - 2008.04.09 08:17:00 -
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To be shot at at that belt you must have been in low - sec. Don't go to low sec space if you don't want to pvp. Eve provides a perfectly good way to avoid PvP: just mine and do missions in high sec. Belt ratting isn't worth it (rats are too weak), but the missions provide plenty for you to shoot at.
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Cissnei
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Posted - 2008.04.09 08:26:00 -
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Originally by: Yosarian To be shot at at that belt you must have been in low - sec. Don't go to low sec space if you don't want to pvp. Eve provides a perfectly good way to avoid PvP: just mine and do missions in high sec, never leave the npc corp, dont jet can mine, mine in fully tanked out battleships. Belt ratting isn't worth it (rats are too weak), but the missions provide plenty for you to shoot at.
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Malcanis
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Posted - 2008.04.09 08:46:00 -
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Originally by: Laveth
Originally by: Feng Schui no one is forcing you to undock or open up the market tab. go back to wow.
Hmm I dont even know how to reply to that :/ I want to play then game. I really like all the aspecs to the game just not the part where I can be killed for no reason and be set back months of work... can you guys not understand that?? or are you too short sighted??
I have a family, work and kids I don't have them time that lots of you have.
So what else do you like? Playing baseball where only you can't be out? Play football where you can't be tackled?
Everything in EvE revolves around the fact that you're not truly safe anywhere. It's not "an aspect" of the game; it is the game.
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Malcanis
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Posted - 2008.04.09 08:50:00 -
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Originally by: AeonOfTime
Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker
NO. EVE is all about PvP, and it should stay that way.
Interesting statement. I have been playing for over a year, and have never engaged in PvP. Geee, I wonder what I can have been doing all that time!
OK, so you never bought anything off the market, or sold anything, or mined, or traded?
PvP is not limited to combat.
combat pilots almost all rely on ISK-making like missioning, ratting, mining, etc to make ISK to pay for their ships. As soon as you realise that, you'll understand why people don't want invulnerable characters on the same server - for the same reason that we don't want invulnerable invincible spaceships.
CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that. |
Hannobaal
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Posted - 2008.04.09 08:53:00 -
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Originally by: AeonOfTime
Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker
NO. EVE is all about PvP, and it should stay that way.
Interesting statement. I have been playing for over a year, and have never engaged in PvP combat.
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If you've played this game you, have engaged in some form or other of pvp.
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Ambien Torca
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Posted - 2008.04.09 08:58:00 -
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EVE PVE and non-combat activities are so terrible and boring for most part (excluding market manipulation if thatŠs what you like) that I just canŠt understand people who would pay CCP to do it. If you donŠt interact/compete there is absolutely no point in playing EVE at all IMO.
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2008.04.09 08:59:00 -
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Originally by: Cissnei
Originally by: AeonOfTime
Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker
NO. EVE is all about PvP, and it should stay that way.
Interesting statement. I have been playing for over a year, and have never engaged in PvP. Geee, I wonder what I can have been doing all that time!
that's because eve is not a pvp game
2moons is a pvp game
rappelz is a pvp game
insertrandomkoreantrashimportmmorpghere is a pvp game
this is a sandbox game. it's (almost) 100% player created and run content. even agent missions are just repetive nonsense along the lines of city of heroes - but at least those have far more engaging storylines.
this is not a pvp game. it's a unique sandbox mmorpg with all the bad and good a sandbox entails. the good being you get to play with your fellow man in their content. the bad being you have to play with your fellow closet wannabe-terrorist. the really bad is that they can quite often exploit you in ways that arent legal in even the real world (stealing is illegal, and we dont shoot people who steal with us in a civilized society).
In some countries, undercutting is/used to be illegal too. Not being a religious nut could be illegal too.
Who cares ?
Eve is a pvp game in the sense that pvp means competitive gameplay. You compete with someone else 90% of the time you are online, in some way. Alot of the competition takes place by warfare, but not all of it. Some of it is targeted, some random.
What it all comes down to is that Eve is a snadbox with limited resources. You're free to find your own place in it, but so is everyone else. Whatever you do will affect everyone else, what everyone else does will affect you. Do NOT WHINE is it sometimes means you are affected in a way you would not have chosen to be.
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Yosarian
MediaCataclysm
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Posted - 2008.04.09 09:14:00 -
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Originally by: KIAEddZ lololooollolololol
hahahahahahhhaaahhahhhahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
lololLOLOllLOlOl wahhhahahahhahahahhahahahahahhahahaah
Fk off.
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Andrea Tesla
Caldari Crazy Clone Warriors of Disaster Hereticus Aegis Communis
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Posted - 2008.04.09 09:19:00 -
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Lets play a game of chess shall we ?
Oh, but... lets do it without all the taking of others pieces, ok ?
A chess game, where you cannot take out the pieces...
Sounds boring ? Nahh, you could always admire the beautiful board.
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