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DefiantArt	Posted - 2008.04.09 23:53:00 - [1] Every game has a story, offline or online. I've been playing 2 months. I'm a good miner, and got both a caldari and minmatar battleship so I must say I'm not doing that bad. However, after doing plenty of mining and shooting off petty pirates....I'm wondering...where is the story? I must be missing something. Every game has one. Am I not talking to the right agents? So far all the missions repeat themselves, shooting down pirates and delivering goods which is getting lame. I read news on the eve webpage about in game stories and so far I'm guessing it's make belief lol. I think I'm missing something, can someone point me in the right direction because I think I'm blind lol. Thanks!!!
Avalon Solaris	Posted - 2008.04.10 00:13:00 - [2] Edited by: Avalon Solaris on 10/04/2008 00:15:30 Originally by: DefiantArt I read news on the eve webpage about in game stories and so far I'm guessing it's make belief lol. Most games are 'make belief'. Actually, all of them are. There's really no major way to directly participate in the story, and few online games offer this sort of experience. Some games claim they do, but ultimately it comes down to the devs spawning a 'major evil' and letting the players kill it. Feel free to RP an Amarr hater though. It's in your blood. Create your own story.
Hippy Dave	Posted - 2008.04.10 00:22:00 - [3] 'Most games' are not EVE... Simply put the story is the game universe and how it unfolds on a day to day basis. There is a traditional 'backstory' detailing the history of the 4 races, but aside from that almost 90% of the stories going on in EVE are player created whether that be through direct rolepay or interpreting in game events into stortylines (as the devs often do - see recent Jihadswarm nonsense) Want a good story, go re-install Fallout 2
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong FOUNDATI0N	Posted - 2008.04.10 00:36:00 - [4] please give the game 2 months of factional warfare to come out. there use to be a group called aruora that would set up events in whivch players could be part of, thus one of a kind missions. however this was removed to due to finding people to play the NPCs, and factional warfare. if factional warfare doesn't come out in the next expansion in 2 months, my adsvice is to quit untill they do release it. the backstory is HUGE in eve. Also there some missions you can run that are different try to find some cosom agents, you'll find them in space, but make sure you have hacking trained. they are usually found in high sec sdpace at locations like the glass edge and such. but yeah wait for factional warfare. PvE is lacking. I mean factional warfare will be PvP as well but with story. Which needs to happen. the news can't just mean random stuff, reading the news should be important to where you gpo to fight/ not to go to stay alive.
Kahega Amielden	Posted - 2008.04.10 01:06:00 - [5] Edited by: Kahega Amielden on 10/04/2008 01:06:59 Originally by: DefiantArt Every game has a story, offline or online. I've been playing 2 months. I'm a good miner, and got both a caldari and minmatar battleship so I must say I'm not doing that bad. However, after doing plenty of mining and shooting off petty pirates....I'm wondering...where is the story? I must be missing something. Every game has one. Am I not talking to the right agents? So far all the missions repeat themselves, shooting down pirates and delivering goods which is getting lame. I read news on the eve webpage about in game stories and so far I'm guessing it's make belief lol. I think I'm missing something, can someone point me in the right direction because I think I'm blind lol. Thanks!!! EVE has more story than any other game I've ever played, hands down. Read EVE simply doesn't have a boring linear group of missions that makes a feeble attempt at a story, and it doesn't make you, the player, into the Savior of the UniverseV even though you are playing with hundreds of thousands of other players who've done the same thing. EVE has backstory, and a **** ton of it. EVE's "story mode" is what is made by players. Want a storyline of your own? Join a corp. Your "quests" are what your corp tells you to do. For example, try getting involved in a corp war. That's a more interesting, detailed and fun story than any sequence of missions.
Asestorian Domination. Scorched Earth.	Posted - 2008.04.10 11:56:00 - [6] Edited by: Asestorian on 10/04/2008 11:57:30 There are two stories in EVE. The first is the background story. The place we pretend the NPCs live, doing their thing. There's loads of content there, both from CCP and talented players, but we don't interact directly with them. At least not most of the time. The story that we play with, however, is the one we create. It's the story that is created by us simply playing the game, taking over territory, fighting wars, stealing and scamming and whatever else we want to do. If you stick to the PvE content of EVE then you won't get involved in EVE's story, you need to go out there and play with everyone else. --- Quote: Welcome to EVE, a PvP game where people are - shockingly - allowed to PvP as much as they like.

CCP Mitnal C C P	Posted - 2008.04.10 18:42:00 - [7] Talking about the backstory here's a couple of links: One is the Generic backstory link The second is a list of Chronicles which also give some hints to proceedings. With the introduction of Faction Warfare this summer we will be adding a significant part of backstory to the game, however, we believe that nothing beats human intrigue, hence you may have seen an eight page story in PC Gamer (UK) about the Southern War in New Eden. Mitnal, Community Representative EVE Online CCP Games Email/Netfang

MotherMoon Huang Yinglong FOUNDATI0N	Posted - 2008.04.10 18:45:00 - [8] Originally by: CCP Mitnal Talking about the backstory here's a couple of links: One is the Generic backstory link The second is a list of Chronicles which also give some hints to proceedings. With the introduction of Faction Warfare this summer we will be adding a significant part of backstory to the game, however, we believe that nothing beats human intrigue, hence you may have seen an eight page story in PC Gamer (UK) about the Southern War in New Eden. uh ho! I got you now! you said summer! I've got a dev quote! muhahaha...
Asestorian Domination. Scorched Earth.	Posted - 2008.04.10 19:17:00 - [9] Mitnal isn't a Dev, he's a moderator/community contact --- Quote: Welcome to EVE, a PvP game where people are - shockingly - allowed to PvP as much as they like.
Cipher7 Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2008.04.10 20:04:00 - [10] Originally by: Asestorian The story that we play with, however, is the one we create. It's the story that is created by us simply playing the game, taking over territory, fighting wars, stealing and scamming and whatever else we want to do. If you stick to the PvE content of EVE then you won't get involved in EVE's story

Slade Trillgon Siorai Iontach Brotherhood of the Spider	Posted - 2008.04.10 20:13:00 - [11] Edited by: Slade Trillgon on 10/04/2008 20:14:37 Originally by: DefiantArt Every game has a story, offline or online. I've been playing 2 months. I'm a good miner, and got both a caldari and minmatar battleship so I must say I'm not doing that bad. Thanks!!! Two races battle ships, two races weapon training, and mine good in 2 months? Did I miss something in my progression? But yeah if you are soloing and not into RP there is little to no story that will affect you at all. As mother moons ays wait till Factional Warfare comes out. In the mean time start training Electronics, Engineering, Navigation, Mechanic, and the other supports skills, because there are players that could probably blow those BS's out of existance in a T2 frigate. Check this thread out if you so choose Veterns Slade
Pink Lemonade	Posted - 2008.04.10 22:21:00 - [12] There's the EVE story and there are the corporations and alliances stories aka history of how politics unraveled in EVE. Most people bother with the later. Some bother with the actual backstory, especially roleplayers.
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2008.04.10 22:26:00 - [13] Originally by: Asestorian Mitnal isn't a Dev, he's a moderator/community contact CCP Mitnal EVE dev team CCP thats what it says under him other known aliases "Puppet master" and something said faction warfare this summer somewhere else. but now its from Mitnal! if only it was from Mindy
Slade Trillgon Siorai Iontach Brotherhood of the Spider	Posted - 2008.04.10 23:25:00 - [14] Originally by: CCP Mitnal With the introduction of Faction Warfare this summer we will be adding a significant part of backstory to the game, however, we believe that nothing beats human intrigue, hence you may have seen an eight page story in PC Gamer (UK) about the Southern War in New Eden. I believe I read somewhere a few months back that, since CCP teamed up with White Wolf Publishing, White Wolf was going to use their background in fictional writting to assist in the further development of the EVE Universal History. I for one would be full of glee if this is true. I came from the old school pen and paper RP world and White Wolf had some great writting for the Werewolf and Vampire games. Slade
F'nog Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce	Posted - 2008.04.11 06:36:00 - [15] Originally by: Slade Trillgon Originally by: CCP Mitnal With the introduction of Faction Warfare this summer we will be adding a significant part of backstory to the game, however, we believe that nothing beats human intrigue, hence you may have seen an eight page story in PC Gamer (UK) about the Southern War in New Eden. I believe I read somewhere a few months back that, since CCP teamed up with White Wolf Publishing, White Wolf was going to use their background in fictional writting to assist in the further development of the EVE Universal History. I for one would be full of glee if this is true. I came from the old school pen and paper RP world and White Wolf had some great writting for the Werewolf and Vampire games. Slade There's an Eve novel coming out soon, early summer IIRC, that may have a lot to do with defining what factional warfare is all about. I assume it's published by WW. Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
Micia Minmatar Thrace Inc Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.04.11 07:46:00 - [16] Quote: Confused...where is the story? We are the story. _______ We are Ushra'Khan. We come for our people.
Slade Trillgon Siorai Iontach Brotherhood of the Spider	Posted - 2008.04.11 10:20:00 - [17] Originally by: Micia Quote: Confused...where is the story? We are the story. This is a very true statement. 0_\ Slade
Asestorian Domination. Scorched Earth.	Posted - 2008.04.11 10:28:00 - [18] Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton Originally by: Asestorian Mitnal isn't a Dev, he's a moderator/community contact CCP Mitnal EVE dev team CCP thats what it says under him other known aliases "Puppet master" and something said faction warfare this summer somewhere else. but now its from Mitnal! if only it was from Mindy Mitnal, Community Representative See what it says? OLOL I don't know what's going on, but it's always fun hijacking a thread. --- Quote: Welcome to EVE, a PvP game where people are - shockingly - allowed to PvP as much as they like.
Kohiko Sun Caldari Rising Sun Mining Inc. Electus Matari	Posted - 2008.04.11 11:25:00 - [19] Pulls guard duty over corpmates/alliance members in their vulnerable miners and haulers and flies patrols looking for pirates, PIE, and VV raiders in Republic space, all while working to show proper loyalty to the Caldari State which is aligned with the Amarr. Then, there's the actual roleplay. This is where I found my Sig.
Sakura Nihil Stimulus	Posted - 2008.04.11 11:53:00 - [20] Lets put it this way. The story of this game, for me, is how for the last 18 months, groups I've worked with have tried to destroy nationalist or territorialist targets. Sometimes we succeed wildly, other times we fail, other times stagnate due to game mechanics or our target's lack of spine. Whatever the case, the game is enjoyed by making a goal of your own and pursuing it, and encountering obstacles from other players along the way.

Disunity Gallente Royal Regiment of Wales	Posted - 2008.04.12 09:55:00 - [21] No disrepect to CCP but the player made history (e.g. last X years) is more interesting than the RPG waffle... check out the great war or the great heist, better than Star Wars and sometimes the bad guy wins. Inveniam viam aut faciam.
Raastah Fedajin Minmatar	Posted - 2008.04.12 12:04:00 - [22] Edited by: Raastah Fedajin on 12/04/2008 12:04:24 Originally by: Disunity No disrepect to CCP but the player made history (e.g. last X years) is more interesting than the RPG waffle... check out the great war or the great heist, better than Star Wars and sometimes the bad guy wins. Could you please give me a link to where I can read about "the great war"? I think the biggest problem about eve story is that it is difficult to find. I now downloaded the Backstory files but have to say that they should be mentioned while starting EVE as a beginner. Of course olayers create their own story, but sometimes I feel that I could cross all universe and without talking to every alliance I know nothing about EVE. I am a Minmatar but can go to Amarr places and Amarr are welcome to shop around on Minmatar Military School ? That is something that feels just wrong. Ok it is peace now, but without any boarders how can there be a history. A Minmatar in a Amarr ship is like USA going to Russia in the 80&s and get being trained in their planes, submarines or whatever they would have liked. I believe that there should be more player related story than CCP-roleplay-story but only if the "normal" user spending "average amount of time" is knowing what is going on. There could be some Alliances doing cruel action against another and why do I know it? From reading hundreds of threads on different alliance-blogs? For example, why is there no "wanted" section from concorde that lists the guys with the highest bounties? So everybody would know the "bad guys" just some things that are more connecting, because EVE is (and can be) proud of having everybody on the same server but I feel that every solar system could be an own server, as I just do not know what is going on 10 jumps away... Thanks for reading :-)
Batolemaeus Caldari Free-Space-Ranger Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.04.12 12:14:00 - [23] Originally by: Raastah Fedajin Could you please give me a link to where I can read about "the great war"? Actually, that is in my opinion the greatest part of it. History in Eve is not written down to all details in dusty books. It's more like listening to the elder ones while holding sticks with marshmallows into a campfire, when they are telling stories about the old days. You have to be involved in it. It's the most involving gameworld ever created.
Raastah Fedajin Minmatar	Posted - 2008.04.12 12:51:00 - [24] Originally by: Batolemaeus Originally by: Raastah Fedajin Could you please give me a link to where I can read about "the great war"? Actually, that is in my opinion the greatest part of it. History in Eve is not written down to all details in dusty books. It's more like listening to the elder ones while holding sticks with marshmallows into a campfire, when they are telling stories about the old days. You have to be involved in it. It's the most involving gameworld ever created. I see your point, but even in times as nobody wrote down history, you grew up with the old and so you learned from the beginning about the myth, the enemies, good and evil. I start as a grown up with near to no knowledge. And IF you are meeting the right guys and get into a great corp that likes to roleplay a little bit and tell the "old stories" u are fine. I could not find the corp with old guys telling me stories by now and a lot of people aren&t as well, I think - so...?
Kuranta Minmatar Pator Tech School	Posted - 2008.04.12 17:13:00 - [25] Edited by: Kuranta on 12/04/2008 17:14:00 Originally by: Raastah Fedajin Could you please give me a link to where I can read about "the great war"? There was an article in the PC Gamer mag. Linkage to PDF Originally by: Raastah Fedajin I think the biggest problem about eve story is that it is difficult to find. Yes, it's not like TV. If you want to know about it, you have to get involved or read along in the forums. Originally by: Raastah Fedajin I now downloaded the Backstory files but have to say that they should be mentioned while starting EVE as a beginner. The backstory is like the second button on the official page. If someon is interested in the backstory, I'm sure he'll find it. Originally by: Raastah Fedajin I am a Minmatar but can go to Amarr places and Amarr are welcome to shop around on Minmatar Military School ? That is something that feels just wrong. EvE is a sandbox game. CCP wants to restrict the players in as few ways as possible. We form our own alliances. When you read the backstory, you will find out that POD piots are above the governtment and above any races. If they choose to. No one holds you back to RP a Minmatarr terrorist and not talk to Amarrians. Originally by: Raastah Fedajin Ok it is peace now, but without any boarders how can there be a history. A Minmatar in a Amarr ship is like USA going to Russia in the 80&s and get being trained in their planes, submarines or whatever they would have liked. POD Pilots do not represent the empires of their race. We are more like free-lance mercs or agents, working for whoever we see fit. It's like a merc of russian origin working for the US government. Originally by: Raastah Fedajin I believe that there should be more player related story than CCP-roleplay-story but only if the "normal" user spending "average amount of time" is knowing what is going on. We'll have to see how factional warfare is implemented and evolves. Originally by: Raastah Fedajin For example, why is there no "wanted" section from concorde that lists the guys with the highest bounties? So everybody would know the "bad guys" just some things that are more connecting, because EVE is (and can be) proud of having everybody on the same server but I feel that every solar system could be an own server, as I just do not know what is going on 10 jumps away... In a station (don't know if all station have this service), push the "Bounty Office" button - there you go. Add them to your adressbook to check when they are online. Use a agent with locator service to find out where they are. Hunt them down....or try to.
Disunity Gallente Royal Regiment of Wales	Posted - 2008.04.12 18:43:00 - [26] Edited by: Disunity on 12/04/2008 18:44:26 Originally by: Raastah Fedajin snip Here's some useful links: http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060828-7605.html http://eve.klaki.net/heist/ http://www.eve-search.com/ http://www.scrapheap-challenge.com/ Bit out of date but still good: http://eve-history.net/ http://www.eve-wiki.net/ hf Edit: spalling... Inveniam viam aut faciam.

CCP Mitnal C C P	Posted - 2008.04.13 19:17:00 - [27] Originally by: Disunity No disrepect to CCP but the player made history (e.g. last X years) is more interesting than the RPG waffle... check out the great war or the great heist, better than Star Wars and sometimes the bad guy wins. No disrespect taken, our idea all along has been to allow the players to take front and centre of the storyline because whatever players do is more creative than what could be written. In addition, what players dream up is a more flexible storyline than forcing you down the path of a rigid storyline created by developers.


CCP Ginger	Posted - 2008.04.14 10:47:00 - [28] Originally by: Disunity No disrepect to CCP but the player made history (e.g. last X years) is more interesting than the RPG waffle... check out the great war or the great heist, better than Star Wars and sometimes the bad guy wins. Heya, im responsible for some of the RP waffle you refer to and while i might take issue with the word waffle, i completely agree. Personally i find the fictional backstory of the EVE universe and the on going story with the EVE Universe fascinating and a large portion of my job is geared towards this. But the players make this game and the stories and ups and downs and heists and wars and politics make for an intriguing, involving and quite frankly an amazing story and history to our game, and its never ending and always going on, created by the group effort of 200,000 people interacting. Im always astounded.

Huberek Morchu	Posted - 2008.04.14 11:41:00 - [29] Originally by: DefiantArt Every game has a story, offline or online. I've been playing 2 months. I'm a good miner, and got both a caldari and minmatar battleship so I must say I'm not doing that bad. However, after doing plenty of mining and shooting off petty pirates....I'm wondering...where is the story? I must be missing something. Every game has one. Am I not talking to the right agents? So far all the missions repeat themselves, shooting down pirates and delivering goods which is getting lame. I read news on the eve webpage about in game stories and so far I'm guessing it's make belief lol. I think I'm missing something, can someone point me in the right direction because I think I'm blind lol. Thanks!!! Read up on jihadswarm for story.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris	Posted - 2008.04.14 12:19:00 - [30] Edited by: Rodj Blake on 14/04/2008 12:20:13 The CCP produced story arcs are all good, but I just wish that they'd actually finish more of them. Or rather, I wish that they'd just not forget about them just when things are getting interesting. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.



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