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annoing
Amarr MisFunk Inc. Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.04.10 23:54:00 -
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From the look of the patch notes, ccp devs have yet again, in their infinite wisdom, decided to do fuk all about the bugs they introduced in the last successful () patch (forgetting about all the other myriad of bugs from all the other patches). Way to go ccp... another load of b0llocks disguised as work. Really, why dont you try to make the effort to actually fix the bugs you continuously introduce?
D- for a pathetic attempt, must try harder.....
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Kylegar
Caldari Dawn of Fire Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.04.10 23:56:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Explorer
Originally by: Kylegar What was it anyway? I'm guessing it was a bug in the graphics engine, but what was it trying to render there?
All the LOD 1 levels of all the moons and planets in the solar system.
Sweet, thanks for telling us. We now have the reason! Woot! |
Minsuki
Metafarmers
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Posted - 2008.04.10 23:59:00 -
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Patch notes:
What we fixed:
A bunch of random crap.
What we didn't fix:
Overview having seizures Alt-tabbing Alt key showing stuff in space
What we didn't implement:
Switch all guns to "x" ammo
I normally don't complain about updates, but come on. This is getting ridiculous. |
Bane Glorious
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.04.11 00:11:00 -
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I just submitted a bugreport for an overview issue that at least some people are probably talking about here with FRAPS footage, see bugreport 56143. |
Erotic Irony
0bsession
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Posted - 2008.04.11 00:53:00 -
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Thanks for the Black Ops boost! ___ Eve Players are not very smart. Support Killmail Overhaul
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Verite Rendition
Caldari F.R.E.E. Explorer Atrum Tempestas Foedus
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Posted - 2008.04.11 01:11:00 -
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Originally by: Talian Gar I'm going to have to agree with the discomfort about how this collection of information on our personal systems is going to happen. The EULA is not relavent since precedents have already been set in the US courts that abused/excessive EULA's have been thrown out as unenforcable/illegal. (I don't know about Iceland, but we know where your playerbase is)
A simple system like a (one-time) pop-up window I may accept, but I need to see what's being sent *before* it is sent, so that I may cancel it if I am not comfortable with the transaction. But, in-the-background, I-don't-know-what's-going-on type stuff, is, I agree, quite unacceptable.
my .02 Talian Gar
I don't get why people are freaking out about this. It's your video card for Pete's sake. It's rather obvious what they're going to collect: The model of the card(e.g. Nvidia 8800GTX) and the amount of RAM said card has. What they're not going to collect: Your bank account number, your **** collection, or your secret plans for defeating BoB once and for all.
They probably need to know how many people have SM3 and SM4 compliant graphics adapters should they release a DX10 client or decide to end the classic client. |
Lo Lightshard
Insurrection Inc
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Posted - 2008.04.11 02:13:00 -
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Edited by: Lo Lightshard on 11/04/2008 02:13:48
Originally by: Talian Gar The EULA is not relavent since precedents have already been set in the US courts that abused/excessive EULA's have been thrown out as unenforcable/illegal. (I don't know about Iceland, but we know where your playerbase is)
Europe. Are you a lawyer?
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Xeron Silverblade
Esthar Industries
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Posted - 2008.04.11 02:52:00 -
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fix those overview-windows-jumping-issue... pretty plllllllllzzzzzzzzzzzz
this is a mayor annoyance to anybody it applies to (which is most of the playerbase if i get that right)
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here'n'there
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Posted - 2008.04.11 03:17:00 -
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Originally by: Minsuki What we didn't implement:
Switch all guns to "x" ammo
Indeed, that was promised "in the first patch after trinity 1.0", so when? |
Sentinel Eeex
Caldari DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.04.11 03:39:00 -
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It's late and all, so I maybe can't read properly, but... I see no mention of ALT key being brought back (together with nice small box in the center of our ship).
Could you let us know if ALT is being brought back?
Thanks. |
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Zorai Miraden
Gallente East Khanid Trading Khanid Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.04.11 04:12:00 -
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Quote: Graphics û General In an effort to prepare for future graphics projects we are collecting information about graphics cards. This will allow us to better target the hardware of EVE's player base.
Unless you make this optional to participate in you have good chances of seeing privacy issue backlash.
I personally don't care if you know what kind of graphics card I had. But I am glad that you said you intend to collect this information. But collecting this information without asking players consent by past stories I've seen will get you into trouble. |
KadaEl
RONA Midgard Academy
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Posted - 2008.04.11 05:29:00 -
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Originally by: Tzar'rim Anything on the multiple account/memory problems a lot of us are experiencing? Unless that is fixed with the python upgrade.
This. This 100x over. I don't care if the overview is bugged, it's easy to work around. -------------------------------------------
KadaEl RONA Midgard Academy Teaching the world of tomorrow |
Angelemori
Caldruin Inc.
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Posted - 2008.04.11 06:06:00 -
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Any further info on the Faction Drones? LP Store or where are we getting them from and what they will be able to do above regular drones? |
Deby Dallas
Caldari Snake Eyes Inc Rule of Three
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Posted - 2008.04.11 06:25:00 -
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I don't get why people are freaking out about this. It's your video card for Pete's sake. It's rather obvious what they're going to collect: The model of the card(e.g. Nvidia 8800GTX) and the amount of RAM said card has. What they're not going to collect: Your bank account number, your **** collection, or your secret plans for defeating BoB once and for all.
They probably need to know how many people have SM3 and SM4 compliant graphics adapters should they release a DX10 client or decide to end the classic client. ----------------------------------------------------- If microsoft release the same statement as CCP i doubt your attitude would be so cavilier.
Yes there are many laws no in plce to cove this and collection of information from anyones pc personal or business should not be a background process and personally unless clarified then i am also prepared to not update to any patch until it is even if that means starting a new online game.
CCP is not at a level where i would place automatic trust in a statement of intent just like i would not trust any other cmpany who came out with the same statement , declare whats being collected or lose players.
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Jordan Musgrat
Convergent Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2008.04.11 06:34:00 -
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CCP Explorer.
Stop ignoring half the posts in this thread. Tell us yes or no, did you give the alt key back, and are you fixing the rampant UI? -----------
Primary is family values, secondary is 0.0... |
Caldari Citizen645721
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Posted - 2008.04.11 06:50:00 -
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Quote: Miscellaneous
Multiple bug fixes where made to our GM tools and some new features implemented to improve our customer support.
hm must it improved ? i mean all the gm tells you is, server runs fine all is ok it is all your computers or isp fault why waste any time on gm tools ? btw this commodore eve pc will not be good enough to play eve my one is faster have more ram but not near to run a small fleetbattle without lags
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Neddy Fox
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Posted - 2008.04.11 06:51:00 -
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CCP Explorer.
Stop ignoring half the posts in this thread. Tell us yes or no, did you give the alt key back, and are you fixing the rampant UI?
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Deviana Sevidon
Gallente Panta-Rhei Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.04.11 06:54:00 -
[78]
The most annoying bugs are not adressed in this patch and all questions about them have been ignored. So I now ask CCP to hold back the patch until a fix for the overview can be included.
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Varrakk
Phantom Squad Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.04.11 07:18:00 -
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Will we get a fix to the Overview?
And Alt-key, and plans for that one?
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Verite Rendition
Caldari F.R.E.E. Explorer Atrum Tempestas Foedus
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Posted - 2008.04.11 07:26:00 -
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Edited by: Verite Rendition on 11/04/2008 07:28:28
Originally by: Deby Dallas
If microsoft release the same statement as CCP i doubt your attitude would be so cavilier.
Yes there are many laws no in plce to cove this and collection of information from anyones pc personal or business should not be a background process and personally unless clarified then i am also prepared to not update to any patch until it is even if that means starting a new online game.
CCP is not at a level where i would place automatic trust in a statement of intent just like i would not trust any other cmpany who came out with the same statement , declare whats being collected or lose players.
Microsoft already does collect that information. Every time you use Windows update it gets a list of hardware and MS applications so that it can find driver and application updates. WoW does this, SWG does this, half the traditional MP games do this. Your hardware is not considered private info, it has no personal details that could possibly be used for or against you. It's like taking a census of car models that come through a repair shop, how on earth could such data be abused?
And if you don't trust CCP, you shouldn't be installing or running EVE at all. It's not as if there's some magic bit they have to flip to collect data, they could very well be recording all of your bank account info every time you log in. Running executable code means you place an immediate and complete trust in whoever provided that code. ---- FREE Explorer Lead Megalomanic EVE Automated Influence Map |
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Kerfira
University of Caille
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Posted - 2008.04.11 07:30:00 -
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Edited by: Kerfira on 11/04/2008 07:37:46
Originally by: Neddy Fox CCP Explorer.
Stop ignoring half the posts in this thread. Tell us yes or no, did you give the alt key back, and are you fixing the rampant UI?
Unfortunately it seems like CCP has learned absolutely NOTHING from the last year or so..... Classic ostrich approach. Don't mention a problem (even though it's in front of you), and it doesn't exist... "Look ma, no problems! We're a great company! Our product is great!"
Seriously, what happened at CCP? You've lost your ability to communicate, and it seems you've also lost all sense when it comes to prioritising what to fix.... You've added or 'fixed' a lot of stuff in this patch that most people probably couldn't care less about, but the one thing that annoys people on a daily basis gets no attention....
TELL people whether you fixed this or not! If you've fixed it and tell people, the result is they'll be happy. If you haven't fixed it and tell people, the result is they'll be unhappy about the problem not being fixed. If you haven't fixed it and don't tell people, the result is that they'll be unhappy about you not telling AND then they'll be unhappy about the non-fix! It doesn't take a rocket scientist to be able to tell that being forthcoming is the best solution. If your PR dept tells you otherwise, fire them!
Originally by: CCP Wrangler EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world.
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Helevorn Feanaro
Gene Works AKA-AHN KINGDOM
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Posted - 2008.04.11 07:53:00 -
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Thanks for the fixes, CCP. Looking forward to proper fps again.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Light is faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you speak to them |
Maximillian Power
Minmatar Legio Immortalis
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Posted - 2008.04.11 07:54:00 -
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I rarely speak in threads like this. I hope that this is heard.
Please, please, please make the reporting of graphics cards data a configurable option that is specified clearly in the installer with a tick box. I realize that it is only minor information and is probably not traceable but it really makes a difference to feel that a company cares about privacy.
I _will_ tick the checkbox on install. I think it is a good idea to capture this information. I would also like the option to turn it off if that is what I wanted to do.
Kind Regards, Max |
maarud
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2008.04.11 08:11:00 -
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Originally by: Maximillian Power I rarely speak in threads like this. I hope that this is heard.
Please, please, please make the reporting of graphics cards data a configurable option that is specified clearly in the installer with a tick box. I realize that it is only minor information and is probably not traceable but it really makes a difference to feel that a company cares about privacy.
I _will_ tick the checkbox on install. I think it is a good idea to capture this information. I would also like the option to turn it off if that is what I wanted to do.
Kind Regards, Max
You have already aggreed to this when you agree to the EULA. Maarud.
Proudly a Ex-BYDI member <t20> i'd rather have a python in my pants than a sle |
Krollin
Minmatar Ki Shoda United Corporations Against Macros
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Posted - 2008.04.11 08:36:00 -
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Great job CCP :)
Looking forward to having a good Frame Rate again.
Great game imo!
Kro
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Nike Calistar
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.11 09:59:00 -
[86]
CCP Explorer.
Stop ignoring half the posts in this thread. Tell us yes or no, did you give the alt key back, and are you fixing the rampant UI?
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Dan Glebitts
One Ton Banana
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Posted - 2008.04.11 10:08:00 -
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Edited by: Dan Glebitts on 11/04/2008 10:09:48 1 Crashes with multiple accounts 2 CTD's 3 Overview, Fleet, Drone windows 4 Buddy list not updating 5 Alt key
This is how the patch notes should have read. EVERYTHING else should have been secondary..........EVERYTHING
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Poreuomai
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2008.04.11 10:15:00 -
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PLEASE fix the jumping windows bug!
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Poreuomai
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2008.04.11 10:17:00 -
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Originally by: Mortok Tristan
from the eula you accepted:
D. Software Updates CCP may from time to time update or otherwise modify the Software electronically. You hereby grant CCP permission to: (i) extract hardware system profile data from your computer; (ii) extract information from your computer's file directories pertaining to the Game and your ability to access the System; (iii) download to your computer content and Game files and any data related to the operation of the Game. The foregoing applies to any computer from which you log into the System using your Account.
I'm not a lawyer, but it only says that the software may extract system hardware info, it says nothing about sending that info back to CCP.
Even if it did, that should be irrelevant to CCP's attitude towards customers' concerns. It is simply bad form to do so without asking specific permission for sending any given data.
And as many have said, I'd be happy for CCP to have such data, if they ask. CCP should know, though, that many will intend to update their hardware depending on what future EVE versions (especially ambulation) will need.
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Kerfira
University of Caille
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Posted - 2008.04.11 10:18:00 -
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Random comments from SHC with regard to the UI.....
Quote: I suppose the UI jumping around with a mind of its own didn't make the cut to be fixed, eh?
Quote: this was the only thing i wanted to be fixed.
Quote: UI not staying put are what I wanted to see. Everything else can go **** itself.
Quote: I want my UI to stop acting like a manic child with downs syndrome.
Quote: I'm just going to give CCP the benefit of the doubt and hope there's a valid reason why that particular bug hasn't been fixed yet.
Quote: Window jumping sucks. I get it all the time for random reasons.
Quote: The sheer amount of "who the **** cares" fixes in this "patch" sends me into a nerd rage the likes of nerddom has never seen.
Quote: but I do expect gamebreaking UI bugs (and the alt key, and probe bubble rendering, and about 10 other things that are higher priority than EVERYTHING in this patch) to be fixed
Quote: I love how 2 of my 3 biggest complaints didn't get addressed at all....
Quote: They need to fix the UI asap. It's failure that they can't make it stay the way I want.
Quote: Overview.
See what I'm hinting at????
Originally by: CCP Wrangler EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world.
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