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Miss Whippy
Bloody Limeys
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Posted - 2012.02.27 15:55:00 -
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What? Apart from the fact that I'd need to buy a Playstation, which I've no intention of doing?
CCP addressed EvE player's concerns about what happens if DUST dies down and stops being played - I've never owned a console but I can't imagine anyone who has one has a large attention span. The statement went something along the lines of, "don't worry it won't significantly effect EvE gameplay if DUST dies."
In other words, DUST will have so little interaction with EvE that it will be almost utterly pointless from our perspective. DUST looks great and I'm sure it will join the millions of other FPS games out there in being successful for a few months, but what then?
I see two options:
1. Sever any link between DUST and EvE and make it a stand-alone game. Let's face it EvE players are never going to accept DUST players anyway, and will most likely grief the hell out of them in any possible way they can. DUST bunnies just don't know how mean things can get around here.
2. Release it on PC too. While incredibly unlikely as this seems, it WOULD address more than a few concerns. Highjacking every thread possible in the campaign to END THE CLICK FEST and RUBBISH NAVIGATION in EvE. |
March rabbit
Ganse Shadow of xXDEATHXx
133
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Posted - 2012.02.27 15:59:00 -
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may i ask 1 question: you returned from long vacation just to whine on forums again? |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3298
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Posted - 2012.02.27 16:02:00 -
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Attention span on shooter exist for one reason, there is no depth with some of these games.
Dust 514 skill tree is similar to Eves last time I have been informed. The persistence impact is a depth none of these games can barely address and a free expansion every 6 months vs other games 55$ expansion every year would help retain numbers of active players.
They also dont want to release on PC, if they did they'll probably GUT the Eve player base, you dont want to slay two games at once with one flop.
And if you are going to whine and cry about not having kb and mouse for the shooter PS3 supports and dust 514 devs said theyll will allow it for combat now.
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1064
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Posted - 2012.02.27 16:08:00 -
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Miss Whippy wrote:What? Apart from the fact that I'd need to buy a Playstation, which I've no intention of doing?
CCP addressed EvE player's concerns about what happens if DUST dies down and stops being played - I've never owned a console but I can't imagine anyone who has one has a large attention span. The statement went something along the lines of, "don't worry it won't significantly effect EvE gameplay if DUST dies."
In other words, DUST will have so little interaction with EvE that it will be almost utterly pointless from our perspective. DUST looks great and I'm sure it will join the millions of other FPS games out there in being successful for a few months, but what then?
I see two options:
1. Sever any link between DUST and EvE and make it a stand-alone game. Let's face it EvE players are never going to accept DUST players anyway, and will most likely grief the hell out of them in any possible way they can. DUST bunnies just don't know how mean things can get around here.
2. Release it on PC too. While incredibly unlikely as this seems, it WOULD address more than a few concerns.
So by self admission you have no idea what you are talking about, but would like to voice your opinion anyway.
Gotcha. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic Tragedy.
1107
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Posted - 2012.02.27 16:17:00 -
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What Nova and Ranger both said...for the love of Zeus's nipple...do some research before you make yourself look like an idiot. EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-á Open the door!!! |
Ciar Meara
Virtus Vindice
530
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Posted - 2012.02.27 16:21:00 -
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They don't want YOU playing DUST, YOU are already paying them. They want other people to play Dust, new people, people who normally wouldn't play EVE.
You are off course welcome to play, but what they really want is people who play FPS like the idea that their actions matter and are not against DLC content. While you fly around in space creating the world for the grunts to shoot at.
All the people that are complaining about dust on these forums not being on pc should realise, they aren't the target demographic. They already have you, they want new customers. - [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow] |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3298
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Posted - 2012.02.27 16:23:00 -
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^This
Also the dust 514 and eve link are pertty strong in terms of interactivity.
Both will be using API Both will be the same Corproate interfaces (kernel wise to say, the shell will be different if they where operating systems) Both will be using the same market (once again different shells dust 514 stated to only see dust items at the beginning) Both will be using eve voice variant (currenlty there seems to be an issue with eve voice on the ps3)
Both will be subject to metagaming. Both will be more than capable of allowing for backstabbing.
The link we dont know too much about and are begging for more information about is
Industry Sov Piantary Interactions.
My best guessing says that orbital elevators turns planets into a nearly unassailble XL star base unless you get an invasion force.
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Danfen Fenix
Vita Aequitas Veritas The Paganism Alliance
12
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Posted - 2012.02.27 16:25:00 -
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You do realise that there are a LOT of ways that the games can be made to interacte with each other, without actually having them need each other, right? Such as, both games will have PI. The link between the two could be a market allowing players to buy & sell resources across both. As you can do PI on both games, it doesnt mean that one relies on the other, but still promotes interactivity. Same with the orbital bombardment. Neither game needs it, but its a nice little addition to add depth
Edit: Also, the whole link idea is a great for CCP from a marketting perspective as well. A standard FPS has, CoD, Battlefield and a myriad of others as competition. However, AFAIK, there is no game out there with this link currently that could be competition, nor may there be for a few years to come. Simply because, how many games can you name that could have a successful, attractive idea such as this linked cross game/platform? Play WOW as an orc in first person? Players will moan that they cant do that already...and so on. For a company to become competition, either they're going to have to be very inventive, or create two more games, which gives CCP a nice lead. |
Florestan Bronstein
United Highsec Front The 99 Percent
430
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Posted - 2012.02.27 16:38:00 -
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my guess is a PC release will happen eventually - just not during the first couple of months after launch. |
Zagdul
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
390
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Posted - 2012.02.27 16:42:00 -
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Oh sweet, a new and revolutionary thread I've never read before.
It's not Rocket Surgery |
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Miss Whippy
Bloody Limeys
86
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Posted - 2012.02.27 16:42:00 -
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Danfen Fenix wrote:You do realise that there are a LOT of ways that the games can be made to interacte with each other, without actually having them need each other, right? Such as, both games will have PI. The link between the two could be a market allowing players to buy & sell resources across both. As you can do PI on both games, it doesnt mean that one relies on the other, but still promotes interactivity. Same with the orbital bombardment. Neither game needs it, but its a nice little addition to add depth Edit: Also, the whole link idea is a great for CCP from a marketting perspective as well. A standard FPS has, CoD, Battlefield and a myriad of others as competition. However, AFAIK, there is no game out there with this link currently that could be competition, nor may there be for a few years to come. Simply because, how many games can you name that could have a successful, attractive idea such as this linked cross game/platform? Play WOW as an orc in first person? Players will moan that they cant do that already...and so on. For a company to become competition, either they're going to have to be very inventive, or create two more games, which gives CCP a nice lead.
There's plenty of ways the games cna be related to each other yes. But not in any meaningful way by CCP's own admission. You can't link the two games in any useful way as if DUST dies, so does EvE. That is what CCP have said themselves. Highjacking every thread possible in the campaign to END THE CLICK FEST and RUBBISH NAVIGATION in EvE. |
Miss Whippy
Bloody Limeys
86
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Posted - 2012.02.27 16:47:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Miss Whippy wrote:What? Apart from the fact that I'd need to buy a Playstation, which I've no intention of doing?
CCP addressed EvE player's concerns about what happens if DUST dies down and stops being played - I've never owned a console but I can't imagine anyone who has one has a large attention span. The statement went something along the lines of, "don't worry it won't significantly effect EvE gameplay if DUST dies."
In other words, DUST will have so little interaction with EvE that it will be almost utterly pointless from our perspective. DUST looks great and I'm sure it will join the millions of other FPS games out there in being successful for a few months, but what then?
I see two options:
1. Sever any link between DUST and EvE and make it a stand-alone game. Let's face it EvE players are never going to accept DUST players anyway, and will most likely grief the hell out of them in any possible way they can. DUST bunnies just don't know how mean things can get around here.
2. Release it on PC too. While incredibly unlikely as this seems, it WOULD address more than a few concerns. So by self admission you have no idea what you are talking about, but would like to voice your opinion anyway. Gotcha.
What admission is that? Oh wait, you're not saying anything.
Gotcha. Highjacking every thread possible in the campaign to END THE CLICK FEST and RUBBISH NAVIGATION in EvE. |
Kattshiro
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
12
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Posted - 2012.02.27 16:54:00 -
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Oh for fucks sake..we've heard it all before.
QQ 1. I dont own a console! and by that extension everyone who does is some sort of douche bag, riddled with ADHD. News flash captain ******* obvious. Many a person owns a console... Gasp even eve players! On top of that games like halo 3 and MW2, and many others still have populations playing them.
QQ 2. I'm actually just to cheap/broke to buy a console. I'm also afraid I might actual like a few games on it. (There are in fact good games.) but I should not have to buy a system to play a game... Even though I already bought a PC which I require to play games...and will eventually have to upgrade to keep playing them or buy a new PC. (So the argument against buying a console is ******* dumb because you already buy a piece of hardware to play games. Point in fact you're using it to QQ on the forums.)
QQ 3. Seriously though I wanna play on PC! CCP you betrayed me. Ok time to get over it. CCP is not near the first company to develop for different platforms. Fact of the matter is with how cheap many eve players are they dont have the hardware to run DUST.
QQ 4. Even though I really want to play it but refuse to or can't I still hate anyone that might hate it. So many other players must as well and we plan on orbital striking them ruining their fun. We still have next to no idea how much interaction will be between the two games. Most everything is speculation at this time.
QQ 5. I'm going to repeat myself a dozen times and keep bitching about the same redundant things over and over. We should really learn to ignore **** like this. I suppose were all a little guilty. Shame on all of us.
Could be please stop QQ'ing about dust till I dunno it actually comes out or more news is released which is then even worth burning calories over? |
Vladimir Plinnikov
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2012.02.27 16:57:00 -
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I'm more than willing to wait and see what DUST brings to Eve and vice versa, but I do feel like CCP dropped the ball on planetary fighting in an attempt to wade into the FPS market.
To me it seems rather odd that in orbit their are billions of ISK floating around fighting for orbital supremacy, massive ships with thousands of crewman bombarding the planet to clear the way for ground forces while in the surface the control for the planet is played out in a 12v12 team deathmatch.
Personally I would think it would have been much more suited to Eve's gameplay by adding skills for planetary forces control and landing and having the battles take place on a 60K map utilizing a form of RTT combat like the old school close combat games. Allow players to build a 100 man strike force broken up into squads and vehicles, allow those vehicles to be build by combining blueprints of chasis, weapons systems, and turrtes to create a new BPO for a certain player made vehicle class and having corporations fight it out tactically on the planet with three or four hundred units. It would have added an entirely new element to Eve. Allowed for new skills to be implemented and mastered and would have allowed corporations to be directly involved with their planets defense.
Something for CCP to mull over for three or four years down the line when the next generation of console becomes standard and the PS3 has gone the way of the dodo and they are looking at either creating a next generation of DUST game or a new system for planetary fights.
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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3298
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Posted - 2012.02.27 17:00:00 -
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Yeah I have to say the die hard fans following dust 514 is doing a good job keeping me informed and cant seem to stop drooling over the idea that every bullet they shot is going to change something.
I consider this whine a bit more rediculous than the call to nerf the gallente shot gun.
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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3299
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Posted - 2012.02.27 17:03:00 -
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Vladimir Plinnikov wrote:I'm more than willing to wait and see what DUST brings to Eve and vice versa, but I do feel like CCP dropped the ball on planetary fighting in an attempt to wade into the FPS market.
To me it seems rather odd that in orbit their are billions of ISK floating around fighting for orbital supremacy, massive ships with thousands of crewman bombarding the planet to clear the way for ground forces while in the surface the control for the planet is played out in a 12v12 team deathmatch.
Personally I would think it would have been much more suited to Eve's gameplay by adding skills for planetary forces control and landing and having the battles take place on a 60K map utilizing a form of RTT combat like the old school close combat games. Allow players to build a 100 man strike force broken up into squads and vehicles, allow those vehicles to be build by combining blueprints of chasis, weapons systems, and turrtes to create a new BPO for a certain player made vehicle class and having corporations fight it out tactically on the planet with three or four hundred units. It would have added an entirely new element to Eve. Allowed for new skills to be implemented and mastered and would have allowed corporations to be directly involved with their planets defense.
Something for CCP to mull over for three or four years down the line when the next generation of console becomes standard and the PS3 has gone the way of the dodo and they are looking at either creating a next generation of DUST game or a new system for planetary fights.
31 vs 31 players + thier command teams which are infintely larger and branches as far as into eve allaince military commands. There are no game types. Command allocates resources and supplies and determins which fonts to send out in what directions which sets up the match to be had.
It will take several dozens of fights and probably a couple hundred players to effectively bliztkreig an entire planet.
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Danfen Fenix
Vita Aequitas Veritas The Paganism Alliance
12
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Posted - 2012.02.27 17:08:00 -
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Vladimir Plinnikov wrote:I'm more than willing to wait and see what DUST brings to Eve and vice versa, but I do feel like CCP dropped the ball on planetary fighting in an attempt to wade into the FPS market.
To me it seems rather odd that in orbit their are billions of ISK floating around fighting for orbital supremacy, massive ships with thousands of crewman bombarding the planet to clear the way for ground forces while in the surface the control for the planet is played out in a 12v12 team deathmatch.
Personally I would think it would have been much more suited to Eve's gameplay by adding skills for planetary forces control and landing and having the battles take place on a 60K map utilizing a form of RTT combat like the old school close combat games. Allow players to build a 100 man strike force broken up into squads and vehicles, allow those vehicles to be build by combining blueprints of chasis, weapons systems, and turrtes to create a new BPO for a certain player made vehicle class and having corporations fight it out tactically on the planet with three or four hundred units. It would have added an entirely new element to Eve. Allowed for new skills to be implemented and mastered and would have allowed corporations to be directly involved with their planets defense.
Something for CCP to mull over for three or four years down the line when the next generation of console becomes standard and the PS3 has gone the way of the dodo and they are looking at either creating a next generation of DUST game or a new system for planetary fights.
I cant remember where (think it was in one of the blogs), but I think they did state that they'll increase the player counts over time, to allow Dust to first become populated and get a rough idea how big battles should be I.e. no point setting it to a very large number, if it means all players fighting on a planet are in that one battle, and thus meaning the ownership of the planet could change after literally, one battle And vice versa, no point setting it too small, if it means that there are so many battles it's hard to keep track of. (Also the maps will be procedurally generated, so the team sizes may play a part in that).
Also they have said that Dust will be expanded upon using the same model as EVE (i.e. yearly/half yearly expansions), so always room for new content to keep it alive, plus once PS4 comes out, they just need to make a PS4 version and get that set up for players to obtain |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
5081
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Posted - 2012.02.27 17:08:00 -
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Miss Whippy wrote:I've never owned a console but I can't imagine anyone who has one has a large attention span. Uh-huhGǪ so if we buy you one, you will instantly quit EVE? Your imagination is broken GÇö there's really no other way of saying it.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1064
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Posted - 2012.02.27 17:12:00 -
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Miss Whippy wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Miss Whippy wrote:What? Apart from the fact that I'd need to buy a Playstation, which I've no intention of doing?
CCP addressed EvE player's concerns about what happens if DUST dies down and stops being played - I've never owned a console but I can't imagine anyone who has one has a large attention span. The statement went something along the lines of, "don't worry it won't significantly effect EvE gameplay if DUST dies."
In other words, DUST will have so little interaction with EvE that it will be almost utterly pointless from our perspective. DUST looks great and I'm sure it will join the millions of other FPS games out there in being successful for a few months, but what then?
I see two options:
1. Sever any link between DUST and EvE and make it a stand-alone game. Let's face it EvE players are never going to accept DUST players anyway, and will most likely grief the hell out of them in any possible way they can. DUST bunnies just don't know how mean things can get around here.
2. Release it on PC too. While incredibly unlikely as this seems, it WOULD address more than a few concerns. So by self admission you have no idea what you are talking about, but would like to voice your opinion anyway. Gotcha. What admission is that? Oh wait, you're not saying anything. Gotcha.
I bolded the pertinent parts of your post.
I meant what I said, you have no idea what you are talking about.
You don't play console games, you don't understand what the feed back in the gaming industry has been towards the concept of a game like DUST, and you have no idea how the two will interact.
Yet you feel motivated to provide us with your very biased point of view.
Thanks. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3299
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Posted - 2012.02.27 17:21:00 -
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8 years ago. people like you said the same things about eve online.
Thier names where Activision EA and several other major publishers.
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Vetrox Satria
Canadian Forces Corp
9
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Posted - 2012.02.27 17:30:00 -
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Miss Whippy wrote:What? Apart from the fact that I'd need to buy a Playstation, which I've no intention of doing?
Ask for moar pocket money.
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Miss Whippy
Bloody Limeys
86
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Posted - 2012.02.27 17:31:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Miss Whippy wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Miss Whippy wrote:What? Apart from the fact that I'd need to buy a Playstation, which I've no intention of doing?
CCP addressed EvE player's concerns about what happens if DUST dies down and stops being played - I've never owned a console but I can't imagine anyone who has one has a large attention span. The statement went something along the lines of, "don't worry it won't significantly effect EvE gameplay if DUST dies."
In other words, DUST will have so little interaction with EvE that it will be almost utterly pointless from our perspective. DUST looks great and I'm sure it will join the millions of other FPS games out there in being successful for a few months, but what then?
I see two options:
1. Sever any link between DUST and EvE and make it a stand-alone game. Let's face it EvE players are never going to accept DUST players anyway, and will most likely grief the hell out of them in any possible way they can. DUST bunnies just don't know how mean things can get around here.
2. Release it on PC too. While incredibly unlikely as this seems, it WOULD address more than a few concerns. So by self admission you have no idea what you are talking about, but would like to voice your opinion anyway. Gotcha. What admission is that? Oh wait, you're not saying anything. Gotcha. I bolded the pertinent parts of your post. I meant what I said, you have no idea what you are talking about. You don't play console games, you don't understand what the feed back in the gaming industry has been towards the concept of a game like DUST, and you have no idea how the two will interact. Yet you feel motivated to provide us with your very biased point of view. Thanks.
Oh dear, seems you have a rather basic understanding of life in general. You don't have to own something to have an understanding of it. I live with several people who own consoles, and I've yet to see them play ANY game be it online or not for ANY great length of time. In no small part to the fact that console games aren't meant to last. If games took months to complete rather then days, then people wouldn't be buying as many games as they should be.
Since you can't even grasp a concept as basic as observation and in fact have shown you base your opinion entirely on meaningless assumption, you should stop trying to be clever as it clearly doesn't suit you.
Highjacking every thread possible in the campaign to END THE CLICK FEST and RUBBISH NAVIGATION in EvE. |
Shandir
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
18
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Posted - 2012.02.27 17:32:00 -
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You don't own a console, and don't understand the console market - yet you feel qualified to make broad judgements about the character of all those who do.
You don't know anything about the DUST<> EVE connection, and do not intend to play it - yet you feel qualified to both inform us about it, and make design decisions about how it should work.
Is there anything about your post which is not fail?
PS, I know you're never going to play DUST, like, ever. But can I have your DUST stuff when you don't play it on that console you don't own? |
Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic Tragedy.
1110
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Posted - 2012.02.27 17:32:00 -
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The entire gaming industry is on edge over DUST. CCP needs to pull this off right. If they do the entire way we look at PC vs Console games will change.
Of course I wouldn't expect narrow minded people to understand this.
Miss Whippy wrote: Oh dear, seems you have a rather basic understanding of life in general. You don't have to own something to have an understanding of it. I live with several people who own consoles, and I've yet to see them play ANY game be it online or not for ANY great length of time. In no small part to the fact that console games aren't meant to last. If games took months to complete rather then days, then people wouldn't be buying as many games as they should be.
Since you can't even grasp a concept as basic as observation and in fact have shown you base your opinion entirely on meaningless assumption, you should stop trying to be clever as it clearly doesn't suit you.
You clearly have no clue and are just ignorant and stubborn. Keep posting though. You are entitled to your opinion no matter how stupid it may be and you are also entitled to tell everybody about it regardless of how stupid it makes you look. In the meantime...I am going to go get some popcorn. EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-á Open the door!!! |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1066
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Posted - 2012.02.27 17:46:00 -
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Miss Whippy wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Miss Whippy wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Miss Whippy wrote:What? Apart from the fact that I'd need to buy a Playstation, which I've no intention of doing?
CCP addressed EvE player's concerns about what happens if DUST dies down and stops being played - I've never owned a console but I can't imagine anyone who has one has a large attention span. The statement went something along the lines of, "don't worry it won't significantly effect EvE gameplay if DUST dies."
In other words, DUST will have so little interaction with EvE that it will be almost utterly pointless from our perspective. DUST looks great and I'm sure it will join the millions of other FPS games out there in being successful for a few months, but what then?
I see two options:
1. Sever any link between DUST and EvE and make it a stand-alone game. Let's face it EvE players are never going to accept DUST players anyway, and will most likely grief the hell out of them in any possible way they can. DUST bunnies just don't know how mean things can get around here.
2. Release it on PC too. While incredibly unlikely as this seems, it WOULD address more than a few concerns. So by self admission you have no idea what you are talking about, but would like to voice your opinion anyway. Gotcha. What admission is that? Oh wait, you're not saying anything. Gotcha. I bolded the pertinent parts of your post. I meant what I said, you have no idea what you are talking about. You don't play console games, you don't understand what the feed back in the gaming industry has been towards the concept of a game like DUST, and you have no idea how the two will interact. Yet you feel motivated to provide us with your very biased point of view. Thanks. Oh dear, seems you have a rather basic understanding of life in general. You don't have to own something to have an understanding of it. I live with several people who own consoles, and I've yet to see them play ANY game be it online or not for ANY great length of time. In no small part to the fact that console games aren't meant to last. If games took months to complete rather then days, then people wouldn't be buying as many games as they should be. Since you can't even grasp a concept as basic as observation and in fact have shown you base your opinion entirely on meaningless assumption, you should stop trying to be clever as it clearly doesn't suit you.
Actually I base my opinion on personal experience with console gaming, keeping abreast of the gaming industry news for both PC and console, and researching a game that is of interest to me (and many others).
As opposed to you that bases his opinion of that fact that his friends only play games following the traditional (and failing) cycle of charging $60 bucks for a new expansion once a year... for a game they will beat in 3 weeks.
I don't blame you for asking pointed questions, but when you pretend to offer answers based on complete ignorance of the subject matter you're just wasting our time.
When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Kattshiro
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
13
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Posted - 2012.02.27 17:54:00 -
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Quote:
Oh dear, seems you have a rather basic understanding of life in general. You don't have to own something to have an understanding of it. I live with several people who own consoles, and I've yet to see them play ANY game be it online or not for ANY great length of time. In no small part to the fact that console games aren't meant to last. If games took months to complete rather then days, then people wouldn't be buying as many games as they should be.
Since you can't even grasp a concept as basic as observation and in fact have shown you base your opinion entirely on meaningless assumption, you should stop trying to be clever as it clearly doesn't suit you.
I got roommates that own **** they hardly use too. I have a car I dont drive everyday... So what's your point? (Not everyone is a pro or going to devote 8 hours a day like they do for MMO's?) Because the one you just raised isn't saying much of anything. FPS by their very nature are a more casual game. You dont need to wait around for hours and hours to get into a fight or even battle it out. As for long term once again there are still people playing older FPS's on consoles like halo 3 etc. Dust will also have the benefit of being much cheaper, and sometime down the road being F2P. Really the game play/world and community will determine how long lasting of an appeal it will have.
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Oh ro
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Posted - 2012.02.27 17:58:00 -
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Not really sure why the people who bitched about WiS aren't also upset about Dust unless they are all console kids. |
Miss Whippy
Bloody Limeys
86
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Posted - 2012.02.27 18:09:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:
Actually I base my opinion on personal experience with console gaming, keeping abreast of the gaming industry news for both PC and console, and researching a game that is of interest to me (and many others).
As opposed to you that bases his opinion of that fact that his friends only play games following the traditional (and failing) cycle of charging $60 bucks for a new expansion once a year... for a game they will beat in 3 weeks.
I don't blame you for asking pointed questions, but when you pretend to offer answers based on complete ignorance of the subject matter you're just wasting our time.
Yet here we are on your third reply, and it still lacks any kind of substance. Like for instance, what is so great about DUST? You and your fellow fanboys have already heralded DUST an amazing Success before it's even come out, yet you haven't explained at all how DUST will succeed. Nor have you explained how the two games will have ANY kind of meaningful interaction, while allowing for the fact that CCP themselves have said that should DUST fail it will have NO impact on EvE.
So, tell me. What has your mountains research come up with in regards to this. Because you've failed to mention it so far.
I can understand your blind faith though, considering DUST was born in a time when CCP was getting everything so right! Highjacking every thread possible in the campaign to END THE CLICK FEST and RUBBISH NAVIGATION in EvE. |
Vetrox Satria
Canadian Forces Corp
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Posted - 2012.02.27 18:14:00 -
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WHY R DUST NOT ON MA PC!?!?!
Because (i assume) its harder to code something for a pc with its many different hardware variations. Then you have to make sure the graphics engine will cater for everyone because the majority of PC owners dont have that good a PC and its cheaper for them to buy a console.
WHY R DUST NOT ON MA XBOX
Disclaimer: Xbox till I die but I live in reality.
Lets face it the xbox is starting to show its age now and the ps3 is just better spec'd therfore its going to make the game run better. Plus I expect that most PC owners (especially those who are aged between 8 and, old enought o get a job,) dont have a mondo powerfull pc to rival what could be achieved at half the price on the ps3
WHY R DUST NOT ON EVERYFING LIKE CCP SAID IT WOULD!
Because CCP probably did have grand visions of this being a multiplatform game but the reality is...its really ******* hard to do and maintain...plus PC players would just insta win.
...oh i thought we were just making **** up with made up facts in our heads...woops. |
CanIHave YourStuff
In Praise Of Shadows
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Posted - 2012.02.27 18:31:00 -
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News flash for the op. No one cares about your pathetic whining. |
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