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Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
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Posted - 2012.02.27 20:03:00 -
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CSM 7 candidates. Ambulation has been a controversial topic. In fact the reduction in focus on ambulation resulted in the largest thread in the new forums (it is referenced in the recent Dev Blog on the topic).
I believe ambulation is key to the future of Eve. That adding compelling ambulation will dramatically increase the subscription base of Eve and is integral to the promise that CCP has repeatedly made that Eve is a massive SciFi simulator.
I support CCP continuing to work on ambulation content while keep the majority of the focus on the current Eve experiences. I currently believe that CCP should add a few more resources to Team Avatar to help develop the concepts including prototyping to make sure the next attempt at ambulation is more compelling than what was first delivered. Then once the concepts are solid we get enough development resources to see real ambulation by the summer of 2013.
So, other CSM 7 candidates, where do you stand on ambulation/
Issler Dainze The Miner's Friend CSM 7 Candidate |
None ofthe Above
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Posted - 2012.02.27 20:11:00 -
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Issler Dainze wrote:...Where do you stand on ambulation?...
Upright, with both feet on the ground in my CQ?
Even None ofthe Above supports Hans Jagerblitzen for CSM7! |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks Petition Blizzard
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Posted - 2012.02.27 20:18:00 -
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None ofthe Above wrote:Issler Dainze wrote:...Where do you stand on ambulation?... Upright, with both feet on the ground in my CQ? /thread |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.27 20:57:00 -
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only dumb roleplayers who support RMT care about ambulation "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Xolve
The Suicide Kings Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.02.27 21:20:00 -
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Andski wrote:only dumb roleplayers who support RMT care about ambulation
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Grumpy Owly
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Posted - 2012.02.27 21:32:00 -
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Andski wrote:only dumb roleplayers who support RMT care about ambulation
Why? Ambulation is about WiS.
Are you confusing it with Micro transactions? For which there a valid methods CCP promote for payment methods for Aurum, namely plex.
If you are saying that paying for plex could be seen as supporting RMT I'm sure there are more than just ambulation issues involved in that. So please afford some sensible evidence for your claim.
As to WiS:
I personally don't mind too much about WiS, I can see it being able to have a compartmentalised business model that funds itself in parallel to FiS. This under the assumption that is doesn't have a significant factor to impeding the main purpose of the game fundamentally. Which means I prefer FiS over WiS as a development choice. But if a seperate parallel business model can be applied in to work alongside FiS game development without a significant detrimental impact, then I can see it being helpful for CCP to persue it as an alternative revenue source.
This acceptance assumes that the associated Micro transaction items associated with WiS remain cosmetic and they never become pay to win items (e.g. gold ammo)
Wether the future of WiS ever progresses into a more active purpose, like increased social interaction options, first person shooter style possibilities on stations akin to Dust changes, I don't know and am not sure about, haven't given it too much serious thought other than potential. Be interesting to see I guess as player possibilites.
In conclusion priorities for me would be FiS but not against WiS. Bounty Hunting for CSM 7
Stop EvE Apathy |
None ofthe Above
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Posted - 2012.02.27 21:37:00 -
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Sorry Issler,
Didn't mean to derail the thread, it is a valid question. I just couldn't resist.
To make up for it, I'll answer seriously to reset the tone (even though I've shut down my own campaign for CSM).
Personally, I think CCP has struck a pretty good balance for the near future with Crucible and Team Avatar.
IMHO: The community won't stand for too many resources into ambulation while other things remain unattended to, but CCP has left the door open for future work and keeping it alive with short term improvements. It would be a pity to see this aspect of the game be abandoned entirely, but there is a lot of healing to do. Aurum and the NeX have to either be reconciled with sane goals or scrapped entirely. To preserve EVE, never again can all resources be put into a tangential feature development ("Jesus-feature"), to the detriment of all else. Releases must be more balanced and show all around incremental improvements (optionally with bigger pushes in "theme" areas such as the upcoming Inferno). This should include CQ and perhaps ambulation where possible, but broken systems like bounty hunting, wardecs, etc, would seem a higher priority.
Hopefully ambulation issues (such performance with more than one character on screen at a time, animations, improved control scheme) will be worked out by the WoD team which allegedly has sixty people on it. Art assets could potentially be imported from there as well. (Most of the Incarna assets look modern day anyway rather than futuristic which is sad.) Not that I would be grief-stricken if WoD was canceled.
Past Inferno, if CCP keeps up the path started by Crucible, Dust is a success and CCP keeps bringing in the revenue, then yeah I might support ambulation getting some more resources. But currently CCP is pulling out of a nose dive and recovering nicely although far from leveling off into a nice cruising altitude, I think its too soon to be pushing for this.
Something to remember though doing "ambulation" properly is potentially a bigger game in both effort and on your computer's resources than all the rest of EVE combined. It's a huge ambitious potentially open ended product. I am not sure I would mind if beyond "the door" was another game entirely, an optional download for EVE players, much like DUST is. The new CMO has hinted that there may be other games in the EVE universe and I suspect that's it.
Even None ofthe Above supports Hans Jagerblitzen for CSM7! |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.27 21:40:00 -
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I, too, want to see the effect of a barrage of 1400mm artillery shells shot from a maelstrom into a capturable station.
If we're also talking about people walking in dust, the effect of a battery of giga lazers fired into a battlefield. Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
Dovinian
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.02.27 23:11:00 -
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Amberlamps |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.27 23:36:00 -
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Issler, did you finally give up your charade of being the "mining candidate"? The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
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Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.28 00:34:00 -
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waaaaambulation
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Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
1001
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Posted - 2012.02.28 00:39:00 -
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Please note this thread is for other CSM 7 Candidates to share their views on ambulation, not the standard set of anti-ambulation trolls I am seeing here once again.
Issler Dainze The Miner's Friend CSM 7 Candidate. |
Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
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Posted - 2012.02.28 00:55:00 -
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Issler Dainze wrote:Please note this thread is for other CSM 7 Candidates to share their views on ambulation, not the standard set of anti-ambulation trolls I am seeing here once again.
Issler Dainze The Miner's Friend CSM 7 Candidate.
Just report them.
Gonnies/wannabe-Goonies may be "speshul," but per the forum rules, no-one is "special," if you get my drift.
I are kyute kitten! I are in ur mishun! Redoosin' teh lag by ninja'ing ur wrekz! (CCP: Make wrecks probable, and after 30min., tractorable.) |
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
1001
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Posted - 2012.02.28 01:00:00 -
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Tarryn Nightstorm wrote:Issler Dainze wrote:Please note this thread is for other CSM 7 Candidates to share their views on ambulation, not the standard set of anti-ambulation trolls I am seeing here once again.
Issler Dainze The Miner's Friend CSM 7 Candidate. Just report them. Gonnies/wannabe-Goonies may be "speshul," but per the forum rules, no-one is "special," if you get my drift.
Excellent idea!
Issler |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.28 01:47:00 -
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Silencing anybody who doesn't agree with you doesn't seem like a very good way to win a democratic election. The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1686
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Posted - 2012.02.28 01:47:00 -
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Especially when your platform is space pants. The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
JEFFRAIDER
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2012.02.28 01:53:00 -
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Issler Dainze wrote:Please note this thread is for other CSM 7 Candidates to share their views on ambulation, not the standard set of anti-ambulation trolls I am seeing here once again.
Issler Dainze The Miner's Friend CSM 7 Candidate.
Please note shut up you goofy ****** |
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
1002
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Posted - 2012.02.28 01:56:00 -
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Still waiting for someone actually running for CSM 7 to respond to this and the miners thread.
Issler |
ThisIsntMyMain
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.02.28 01:57:00 -
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Issler Dainze wrote:Please note this thread is for other CSM 7 Candidates to share their views on ambulation,
No Issler, this thread is so you can try to promote yourself.
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Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
1002
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Posted - 2012.02.28 02:00:00 -
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ThisIsntMyMain wrote:Issler Dainze wrote:Please note this thread is for other CSM 7 Candidates to share their views on ambulation, No Issler, this thread is so you can try to promote yourself.
This thread is so that voters can see where each candidate stands on a very controversial feature in Eve.
Issler |
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Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1686
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Posted - 2012.02.28 02:01:00 -
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Issler Dainze wrote:Still waiting for someone actually running for CSM 7 to respond to this and the miners thread.
Issler
None of the serious candidates care about mining.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
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Posted - 2012.02.28 02:18:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Silencing anybody who doesn't agree with you doesn't seem like a very good way to win a democratic election.
Yeah, but you lot aren't disagreeing in a constructive manner, you're just trolling/spamming.
Unless the forum rules have changed whilst I was sleeping...?
I are kyute kitten! I are in ur mishun! Redoosin' teh lag by ninja'ing ur wrekz! (CCP: Make wrecks probable, and after 30min., tractorable.) |
Sidus Sarmiang
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.28 02:43:00 -
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I'm not ashamed to say I enjoy ambulation. Sometimes I do it more than once per day, usually with my left hand. |
ThisIsntMyMain
Republic University Minmatar Republic
95
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Posted - 2012.02.28 03:01:00 -
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Issler Dainze wrote:ThisIsntMyMain wrote:Issler Dainze wrote:Please note this thread is for other CSM 7 Candidates to share their views on ambulation, No Issler, this thread is so you can try to promote yourself. This thread is so that voters can see where each candidate stands on a very controversial feature in Eve. Issler
By "controversial" you mean a feature that was roundly rejected by the majority of players in the form offered by CCP. A feature which is now firmly at the bottom of the developers list of things to do this year ?
Is your position that you'd take development off Inferno and the current direction which has seen a positive swing in subscriber numbers and the end of hostilities between the players and CCP ?
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Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1686
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Posted - 2012.02.28 03:04:00 -
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Tarryn Nightstorm wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:Silencing anybody who doesn't agree with you doesn't seem like a very good way to win a democratic election. Yeah, but you lot aren't disagreeing in a constructive manner, you're just trolling/spamming. Unless the forum rules have changed whilst I was sleeping...?
You have a funny definition of trolling. Disagreement doesn't equal trolling no matter how much Issler says so. The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1686
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Posted - 2012.02.28 03:05:00 -
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ThisIsntMyMain wrote:Is your position that you'd take development off Inferno and the current direction which has seen a positive swing in subscriber numbers and the end of hostilities between the players and CCP ?
That's exactly what she wants. Go check out her "threadnaught" in General Discussion.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
ThisIsntMyMain
Republic University Minmatar Republic
95
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Posted - 2012.02.28 03:07:00 -
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I have a funny definition of trolling .... |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2234
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Posted - 2012.02.28 04:58:00 -
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Grumpy Owly wrote:Are you confusing it with Micro transactions? For which there a valid methods CCP promote for payment methods for Aurum, namely plex.
Actually, no. Issler believes that RMT should be allowed because it creates jobs for farmers or whatever (lol)
oh and doing anything in a game for "tears" is invariably indicative of a deeper problem in the individual, you can trust her because she minored in "mental health" "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Grumpy Owly
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Posted - 2012.02.28 05:16:00 -
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Andski wrote:Grumpy Owly wrote:Are you confusing it with Micro transactions? For which there a valid methods CCP promote for payment methods for Aurum, namely plex. Actually, no. Issler believes that RMT should be allowed because it creates jobs for farmers or whatever (lol) oh and doing anything in a game for "tears" is invariably indicative of a deeper problem in the individual, you can trust her because she minored in "mental health"
Oh I see, your original comment above then was a personal attack of someone's opinions and not really relevant to the topic material, understood.
(I wont offer a comment about the accusations just made however other than not personally supporting RMT outside of CCP's approved methods.) Bounty Hunting for CSM 7
Stop EvE Apathy |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
197
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Posted - 2012.02.28 06:22:00 -
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Andski wrote:oh and doing anything in a game for "tears" is invariably indicative of a deeper problem in the individual, you can trust her because she minored in "mental health" Hm, interesting. You know what they say about looking into the void.
Some day you'll be set upon and taken for all the tears you're worth.
Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
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