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CCP Sreegs
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2012.02.29 00:43:00 -
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Chiggy W wrote:Thanks you Thanks you Thank you Nice to see some action on the bot's and RMT'ers that are the cancer in Eve. Thanks for taking action, and if I have one thing to say, please make this a regular occurance. We all know that once the two week bans are up they will be back in force. One idea I'd like to put forward is once an account is dinged for this, please ensure that the character can't be traded. It's been publicly stated on certain forums (not FHC the other one ) that once the ban is up they sell the char, open a new account and then buy a new one so the cycle starts again. Remove the ISK and their ability to sell the char if you're not going to perma ban them, and hopefully we will see a large reduction in these cheating wankers.
Suffice to say the knife's being twisted a bit more this time around. I'm still on vacation until Thursday so I can't commit to anything until then. Was in Amsterdam. Beautiful city! |
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
332
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Posted - 2012.02.29 00:45:00 -
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Endeavour Starfleet wrote:This shows folks that the best solution to this issue on OUR end is hitting that report bot function. The more info CCP gets on these idiots. The better.
How do you know if someone is a bot? Assuming he has a "regular" name and only mines for 2-3 hours a day, why would you think he is / he is not a bot?
It's a thought of mine, if people spam report bot, won't CCP get clogged in hundreds of time consuming investigations leading to nowhere? Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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Beekeeper Bob
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2012.02.29 00:48:00 -
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CCP Sreegs wrote:Angel Lust wrote:Let me guess..... Only highsec booters taken ? Edit: A dead boot is a good boot tho.... We do not nor have we every discriminated based on location. Any insinuation otherwise is simply false.
Every? Freudian slip?
Looking to stamp out apiphobia in my lifetime..... |
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CCP Sreegs
C C P C C P Alliance
234
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Posted - 2012.02.29 01:00:00 -
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Beekeeper Bob wrote:CCP Sreegs wrote:Angel Lust wrote:Let me guess..... Only highsec booters taken ? Edit: A dead boot is a good boot tho.... We do not nor have we every discriminated based on location. Any insinuation otherwise is simply false. Every? Freudian slip?
I'm tired :( |
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Lord Zim
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
615
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Posted - 2012.02.29 01:03:00 -
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Personally, I think this is too little, too late. There should've been a lot more done with bots years ago, and the end result of the ineffective anti-bot stance CCP has taken has lead to a hilarious inflation in the ships used, to the point where we see daily supers being ganked and just go "Sigh, really? Again? Don't they ever learn?!", and when we get pings of "titan tackled", I just go "meh, I can't even be bothered to log in for a titan kill anymore, it's no big deal". |
leviticus ander
The Scope Gallente Federation
128
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Posted - 2012.02.29 01:19:00 -
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what CCP should do is work on a long term plan where they come up with the absolute best botting software out there (they know their software, so they can get their botting software to work with it) and keep it running for a couple years. after it's been running for so long, it will have weeded out pretty much all the other botting teams out there. after this time, they've been tracking account usage and what links they have to other parts of the game. and once they have this comprehensive list of what is pretty much every bot out there they have the great purge where every account and all accounts linked to it are removed from the game. and depending on how thorough they want to be, block the IPs of the people that are botting (I know this can be avoided, but it would probably stop a lot of people. |
Jita Alt666
937
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Posted - 2012.02.29 01:19:00 -
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Tore Vest wrote:Jita Alt666 wrote:
Looking forward to the dev blog. I personally think you should: A: Remove all supercapitals, owned by players who have accounts caught in the net from the game world. B: Confiscate without recompense and then recirculate PLEX that have been bought by players who have accounts caught in the net, back into the market at 75% of current market value.
Anyway keep up the good work.
You sound bitter bro.... Did you loose anything ?
I had a corp mate who lost a faction fit paladin to high sec gankers last week - the last assets of note (worth 3bil+) I lost were in 2009 - about the same time you lost lots of yours.
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Keprie
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.02.29 01:25:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Personally, I think this is too little, too late. There should've been a lot more done with bots years ago, and the end result of the ineffective anti-bot stance CCP has taken has lead to a hilarious inflation in the ships used, to the point where we see daily supers being ganked and just go "Sigh, really? Again? Don't they ever learn?!", and when we get pings of "titan tackled", I just go "meh, I can't even be bothered to log in for a titan kill anymore, it's no big deal".
I completely agree, too little and *very* much too late.
This game was OPENLY botted for far too long. Even though other MMO's are botted probably botted much more than in eve, the way the unique player driven economy works it has such a pronounced and game changing effect in the long term. This temp ban will just cause the usual price spikes for a month(s) until it normalizes and then the same cycle next year when CCP decides to show everyone 'they are doing something' again.
It is the primary reason I stopped recommending eve anymore to friends because botting had become so commonplace. |
Powers Sa
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.02.29 01:26:00 -
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Chiggy W wrote:Thanks you Thanks you Thank you Nice to see some action on the bot's and RMT'ers that are the cancer in Eve. Thanks for taking action, and if I have one thing to say, please make this a regular occurance. We all know that once the two week bans are up they will be back in force. One idea I'd like to put forward is once an account is dinged for this, please ensure that the character can't be traded. It's been publicly stated on certain forums (not FHC the other one ) that once the ban is up they sell the char, open a new account and then buy a new one so the cycle starts again. Remove the ISK and their ability to sell the char if you're not going to perma ban them, and hopefully we will see a large reduction in these cheating wankers. I would like them to still be able to sell a tengu pilot, but at a ultra reduced value (6 months for a solid tengu pilot from 0). Flag the accounts/transaction so we can see that they are bad people and then we can negotiate them down to rub salt in the wound. Help some players get cheaper ratters so they can afford to lose hilarious ships in pvp.
I personally just dropped $50 on that Buddy account thing for 6 months gameplay etc. I'm training up a dedicated tengu guy so I can afford to fly expensive bait ships. I have to say, I'm a huge fan of CCP's multibox/multiple client stance. It makes life easier, and you don't have to bot. |
Endeavour Starfleet
680
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Posted - 2012.02.29 01:30:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Endeavour Starfleet wrote:This shows folks that the best solution to this issue on OUR end is hitting that report bot function. The more info CCP gets on these idiots. The better. How do you know if someone is a bot? Assuming he has a "regular" name and only mines for 2-3 hours a day, why would you think he is / he is not a bot? It's a thought of mine, if people spam report bot, won't CCP get clogged in hundreds of time consuming investigations leading to nowhere?
Abusing report bot = ban. And many that get reported are obvious bots. Other folks use their experience to locate the harder to find ones and report them. |
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Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1351
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Posted - 2012.02.29 02:07:00 -
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Lady Spank wrote:Triscuitich wrote:Couldn't you just write them a nice email you soulless attention *****? Botter spotted. There is no need to make a personal attack here. Thanks for posting and hilighting yourself though.
Is it an attack ? Afterall being soulless got its advantages, well and as far as i know there are not known disadvantages.
PS. Anyway dont know what you are talking about in OP / well i dont log in game that much anyway. |
Sloppy Podfarts
Hedion University Amarr Empire
7
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Posted - 2012.02.29 02:07:00 -
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Jita Alt666 wrote:Tore Vest wrote:Botters will be back tho..... If CCP not doing anything with the way ppl rat/mine... I wish I was cool as you.
me too
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Raivi
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
63
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Posted - 2012.02.29 02:19:00 -
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Have to say the botter tears Aurora's been collecting made my day a bit brighter.
Hope you enjoyed Amsterdam Sreegs, looking forward to the dev blog. |
Ami Hayashi
Did Not Read
0
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Posted - 2012.02.29 03:11:00 -
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CCP Sreegs wrote:Jita Alt666 wrote:CCP Sreegs wrote:Thanks! :)
I'm writing a dev blog in a day or two that will contain some sweet juicy new details.
As regards the timing of this particular wave, let the dudes on FHC know that Fanfest had nothing to do with it. That's a coincidence.
:edit: also the guy above me heh: I was not referring to the timing of this purge merely the love the OP was expressing toward CCP and the title of the particular unnamed thread on FHC the Op was referring to. god my reading comprehension is awful today. Yeah I know. I had just noticed the thread titles on other forums and wanted to be clear (I'll explain in the blog) that there's reason for timing that has nothing to do with Fanfest, which would insinuate that it's some kind of PR move. This is a tuning of an existing program that occurs regularly.
Good, any chance you can deal with the obvious trade bots, can't be too hard assuming the popular programs all do the exact same thing and position the UI in the exact same way... The regions I've been trading in there are some people that seem to hate sleeping or doing any normal human functions it seems... |
SlayerOfArgus
Dare to Dream
6
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Posted - 2012.02.29 04:16:00 -
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Oh my God the tears |
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1351
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Posted - 2012.02.29 04:20:00 -
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Ami Hayashi wrote:
Good, any chance you can deal with the obvious trade bots, can't be too hard assuming the popular programs all do the exact same thing and position the UI in the exact same way... The regions I've been trading in there are some people that seem to hate sleeping or doing any normal human functions it seems...
Havent you heard that Insomnia is an pre-req for playing EVE ? |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
1282
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Posted - 2012.02.29 04:23:00 -
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So it's looking like not only bot accounts, but other accounts of those who own the bot accounts. This is great "nuking from orbit" and I support this whole-heartedly.
Three huzzahs for CCP.
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CCP Sreegs
C C P C C P Alliance
234
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Posted - 2012.02.29 04:30:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:So it's looking like not only bot accounts, but other accounts of those who own the bot accounts. This is great "nuking from orbit" and I support this whole-heartedly.
Three huzzahs for CCP.
It's always worked this way. We're doing a few new things this time but we always hit everything. |
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Raivi
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
63
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Posted - 2012.02.29 04:48:00 -
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Just gonna leave this here. Props to Aurora and his anonymous tipster for the forum ****.
http://failheap-challenge.com/showthread.php?5791-pre-fanfest-macro-purge
My favourite:
Quote:yeah it does suck when u pile money into a game and the makers can take it away just like that, replace CCP with bankers and u got the current world situation atm, they basically own everything and can do what the **** they want!
CCP is literally Goldman Sachs itt |
Skorpynekomimi
Omega Vector
126
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Posted - 2012.02.29 04:53:00 -
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Angel Lust wrote:Let me guess..... Only highsec booters taken ? Edit: A dead boot is a good boot tho....
Well, highsec bots are more likely to be reported AS bots, due to the higher population levels compared to null. |
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Malakai Asamov
Van Diemen's Demise Northern Coalition.
2
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Posted - 2012.02.29 05:19:00 -
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CCP Sreegs wrote:Thanks! :)
I'm writing a dev blog in a day or two that will contain some sweet juicy new details.
As regards the timing of this particular wave, let the dudes on FHC know that Fanfest had nothing to do with it. That's a coincidence.
:edit: also the guy above me
Juicy details like which alliance had the most botters? |
Keras Authion
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
62
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Posted - 2012.02.29 06:03:00 -
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Malakai Asamov wrote:
Juicy details like which alliance had the most botters?
Oh yeah, this please! As much data as you can get out of it. Locations, type of bots, average daily activity and such would help concentrating the player anti-bot effort to the relevant area. And the statistics are always nice to see. |
Marlona Sky
EntroPrelatial Vanguard EntroPraetorian Aegis
499
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Posted - 2012.02.29 06:06:00 -
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Hell, just release all the character names that were banned.
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Mai Khumm
Apple Construction Inc Northern Associates.
171
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Posted - 2012.02.29 07:10:00 -
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Lady Spank wrote:Triscuitich wrote:Couldn't you just write them a nice email you soulless attention *****? Botter spotted. There is no need to make a personal attack here. Thanks for posting and hilighting yourself though.
Posting in an obvious attention ***** thread...
But on the topic, yes, thank you CCP. I remember reporting a botter over the weekend, got a reply from a GM. Within a few hours the botter looked like it had connection issues (kept on logging on and off) then perma logged. "Being drunk is a good disguise. I drink so I can talk to a**holes. This includes me." |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
740
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Posted - 2012.02.29 07:21:00 -
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Triscuitich wrote:Couldn't you just write them a nice email you soulless attention *****?
While I can't disagree with your description of spank (in fact I'll give you one of my rare likes for it), I have to say that CCP deserves a little public recognition for their effort in this latest campaign.
That said... other than the OP in that other forum, that thread is just one moron after another posting total entitled, childish, ill thought out complete crap. It actually hurt my brain to drag myself through a couple of pages. And here I thought the posters in this forum were stupid.
Nope. This forum is a bunch of Einsteins compared to what I read over there.
Hoo Boy...
Mr Epeen
Me too!-á I ate one sour, too! |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
333
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Posted - 2012.02.29 07:23:00 -
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Raivi wrote:Just gonna leave this here. Props to Aurora and his anonymous tipster for the forum ****. http://failheap-challenge.com/showthread.php?5791-pre-fanfest-macro-purgeMy favourite: Quote:yeah it does suck when u pile money into a game and the makers can take it away just like that, replace CCP with bankers and u got the current world situation atm, they basically own everything and can do what the **** they want! CCP is literally Goldman Sachs itt
My favourite:
Quote:Quote: How many hours a day do you run your bot ? 23
Do you use the human like behavour settings ? yes
Anyone else find this ironic? Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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Mutnin
SQUIDS.
109
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Posted - 2012.02.29 07:42:00 -
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That's nice but when will CCP start banning macro chat bots in all the trade hubs. I really never under stood why they turn a blind eye to that. |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
333
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Posted - 2012.02.29 07:51:00 -
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Mutnin wrote:That's nice but when will CCP start banning macro chat bots in all the trade hubs. I really never under stood why they turn a blind eye to that.
As bad and annoying as they are, chat bots don't faucet ISK and / or minerals into the system. I suppose that makes them second priority. Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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Serge Bastana
GWA Corp
218
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Posted - 2012.02.29 08:17:00 -
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The squeals of the entitled little pricks makes me feel good this early in the morning. Let's hope there's more if possessions bought with that isk are removed.
WoW holds your hand until end game, and gives you a cookie whether you win or lose. EVE not only takes your cookie, but laughs at you for bringing one in the first place... |
mechtech
Ice Liberation Army
136
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Posted - 2012.02.29 08:36:00 -
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Banning bots and actively improving detection methods to keep up with the new bots on the market is mission critical for Eve. Over a long enough period of time, bot infestations kill MMOs, as any MMO vet can attest to.
With that said, keep it up! Any may the next bannings come soon, be greater in #, and with harsher penalties |
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