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highonpop
Void.Tech BLACK-MARK
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Posted - 2012.02.29 17:19:00 -
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http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=9130
Quote:A note to begin with: we've come up with a standardized global scheme for Meta Level 1-4 modules, so by looking at the name you should be able to tell at a glance where the item falls in the Meta pecking order. It goes like this:
Meta Level 1: Upgraded
Meta Level 2: Limited
Meta Level 3: Experimental
Meta Level 4: Prototype
As usual those crazy Icelanders tried to make something more self explanatory and didnt quite get it.
Why would a level 1 item be "upgraded" but the level 2 be "limited" ?
Might just be me, but that seems a bit backwards. If you were to drop them all in my hangar and tell me to figure it our without the item info page I (and probably anyone) would assume the "Upgraded" version would be better than the "limited" version.
Experimental and prototype are....eh.... they could be argued either way. you could argue that "Upgraded" should be the meta 4. Since the word "UPGRADED" means that it is better than it's counterparts.... |
Doc Fury
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.02.29 17:21:00 -
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Wot? We needed another one of these threads?
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'no.' |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
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Posted - 2012.02.29 17:22:00 -
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highonpop wrote:
Might just be me...
Yup. Just might be.
Mr Epeen
Me too!-á I ate one sour, too! |
Flaming Head
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.02.29 17:24:00 -
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I would go:
Limited Upgraded Prototype Experimental
Personally! |
Zyress
Deaths Head Brigade Vanguard.
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Posted - 2012.02.29 17:25:00 -
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I know its kind of boring and straight forward but how about calling them "Meta1", "Meta2", "Meta3" and "Meta4"? Seems like that would eliminate any confusion. |
Alistair Cononach
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2012.02.29 17:26:00 -
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Now THIS is good feedback on this issue. And I agree.
The names should be very descriptive of the items level.
For example:
Meta 0: Inferior Item Name Meta 1: Standard Item Name Meta 2: Upgraded Item Name Meta 3: Superior Item Name Meta 4: Prototype Item Name
Same goes for the re-naming of the Launchers. "Array" is a poor English-language choice.
A better option would be as follows:
Assault Lauchers ----> Light Missile Assault Launcher Heavy Assault Laucher ------> Heavy Missile Assault Launcher |
Zag'mar Jurkar
QC Steel Industries
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Posted - 2012.02.29 17:26:00 -
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I'd vote for something like Ham Meat Chicken Bacon
Bacon being Meta 4 |
Nalia White
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.02.29 17:27:00 -
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limited is more rare than upgraded...
but that's just my silly logic |
Drew Solaert
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.29 17:36:00 -
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As I posted in the Dev Blog comments thread: Limited does not feel right. Not for Meta 2 while Meta 1 is "Upgraded" Enhanced would be a ton better.
Another idea I saw posted should get a mention here too:
Palovana wrote:All this but you're not fixing the "Trauma"?
You're already changing the hardener names to match damage type so do this:
Trauma Light Missile => Kinetic 'Bloodclaw' Light Missile Mjolnir Rocket => EM 'Gremlin' Rocket etc.
Launcher names. the Assault missile change does not look, or sound good and doesn't give a clear indication of what it does. A far better name would be Rapid Light Missile Launcher or something.
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Elanor Vega
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.02.29 17:39:00 -
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upgraded is common/usual issue just upgraded and limited is limited issue so its not common. |
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Trainwreck McGee
Ghost Ship Inc.
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Posted - 2012.02.29 17:45:00 -
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I like this naming scheme seems perfect to me
Jack Daniels - Meta 1 Johnnie Walker - Meta 2 Glenlivet - Meta 3 Macallan - Meta 4
I mean if this is not intuitive to you, you shouldnt be playing EVE. CCP Trainwreck - Weekend Custodial Engineer / CCP Necrogoats foot stool |
highonpop
Void.Tech BLACK-MARK
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Posted - 2012.03.01 00:59:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote:Wot? We needed another one of these threads?
yes |
highonpop
Void.Tech BLACK-MARK
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Posted - 2012.03.01 01:02:00 -
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Nalia White wrote:limited is more rare than upgraded...
but that's just my silly logic
i can understand that too, like 'limited edition'
but when thinking about the quality of an item i was thinking along the lines of 'limited ability' |
Cailais
Rekall Incorporated Sinewave Alliance
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Posted - 2012.03.01 01:12:00 -
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I'm extremely pleased that valuable time is being spent upon this important issue.
Luckily EVE does not have any other pressing concerns.
Perhaps they could ask Tony Gonzales (writer of the last EVE novel "Templar One") for some naming ideas?
C.
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Ajita al Tchar
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.03.01 01:20:00 -
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Nalia White wrote:limited is more rare than upgraded...
but that's just my silly logic
It has less to do with logic and more with what one feels like "limited" refers to.
"Limited" in function
"Limited" in availability
The reason I think so many people are leaning towards the "limited (in functionality)" interpretation is that this is what the other 3 names seem to convey, some qualifier of an item's functionality: upgraded, prototype and experimental. Neither of the three speaks to the availability of the item with the name alone.
Either way, using ambiguous names is bad. So is using arguably synonymous names like "prototype" and "experimental". Blah on the new names all around. |
Brock Nelson
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Posted - 2012.03.01 01:29:00 -
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My suggestion
Meta 1 to I don't get it Meta 2 to What is this? Meta 3 to What the **** is this? Meta 4 to **** you, figure it out yourself Meta 5 to **** it, I'm outta here Signature removed, CCP Phantom |
SgtGoodEnd
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.01 01:43:00 -
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Meta 1 > The Mittani
Meta 2 > Xenuria
Meta 3 > Evil Brock Nelson
Meta 4 > Bipolar Brock Nelson
Meta 5 > Brock Nelson
Edit: Xenuria speeling... |
Ai Shun
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Posted - 2012.03.01 01:45:00 -
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highonpop wrote:Experimental and prototype are....eh.... they could be argued either way. you could argue that "Upgraded" should be the meta 4. Since the word "UPGRADED" means that it is better than it's counterparts....
I see it like this:
Meta 0: Civilian modules for the capsuleer just starting their careers. Meta 1: Upgraded from the core civilian module, these are the first non-civilian modules Meta 2: Limited (Not sure why they chose that one) Meta 3: Experimental module that pushes the boundaries but have gone through some testing. Meta 4: Prototype module that provides the maximum gain but is exactly that, a prototype. It has not really been tested.
It would be amusingif the Experimental / Prototype modules had some chance of failure though |
Tarsus Zateki
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.01 01:51:00 -
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Are you really such a mental invalid that you can't handle a name change. Does CCP need to implement a phonetic reader in the game that will slowly spell out each word for you? Perhaps a voice analyzer so you can slowly slur the words, "Ay aww want some miscles and stuffs..." and the game can just figure it out for you. |
Grumpymunky
Super Monkey Tribe of Danger
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Posted - 2012.03.01 01:56:00 -
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... (+1) ... (+2) ... (+3) ... (+4)
And let us put fire and lightning enchantments on our weapons too. Post with your monkey. |
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Sprite Can
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Posted - 2012.03.01 02:53:00 -
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I agree that the names could be a bit better, more straightforward and less open to interpretation/confusion. Maybe it's just me but the names seem completely backwards. imo something like
1: Limited 2: Experimental 3: Upgraded 4: Advanced Refreshing Lemon-Lime~ |
Ai Shun
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Posted - 2012.03.01 03:17:00 -
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Sprite Can wrote:1: Limited 2: Experimental 3: Upgraded 4: Advanced
Wouldn't an experimental technology be more advanced than an upgraded one? |
Ilandrin Yona
Allied Harvesting
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Posted - 2012.03.01 03:31:00 -
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How about just making "META x" part of the name. ... ..... ....... ... ..... ....... Ilandrin Yona Founder & CEO Allied Harvesting |
highonpop
Void.Tech BLACK-MARK
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Posted - 2012.03.01 14:47:00 -
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Ilandrin Yona wrote:How about just making "META x" part of the name.
Because that would not be leet enough. |
Infinitio Krystallos
Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd
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Posted - 2012.03.01 15:11:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:highonpop wrote:
Might just be me...
Yup. Just might be. Mr Epeen
Yup. Agreed. |
Skandar Roth
First Aid Emergency Service
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Posted - 2012.03.01 15:16:00 -
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errr
what about
good very good great perfect
Yes it is boring and too obvious. |
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