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Amarrian Cougar Amarr Infortunatus Eventus	Posted - 2008.04.23 23:06:00 - [1] Hello, I was wondering how many souls a given ship type has. See, I was thinking about trying to have a more "family" oriented crew, where each looked upon the next as his brother and to me as their father type scenario. Seems that a crew member would fight harder, stronger, faster and more diligently if he believed he was defending his "family" However I need a headcount for ship crews so that if my ship was to fall in say a....10 to 1 fight with myself being the only survivor, I need to know how much space I would need on the e-monument in order to engrave their names before jettisoning it on the battlefield where they perished. How many crew members (estimated) are there on a: Cruiser Battlecruiser Battleship Dreadnought Carrier Mothership Titan Many thanks.
Istvaan Shogaatsu Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club	Posted - 2008.04.23 23:40:00 - [2] Cruiser: 400-800 Battlecruiser: 1000-2000 Battleship: 5000-7000 Dread/Carrier: 20,000+ Mom/Titan: Pick the population of your favorite large city, insert here.
Irongut M'8'S Frontal Impact	Posted - 2008.04.24 00:06:00 - [3] There are some old design schematics for some ships that show crew complements. -- Join Frontal Impact Racing Team & feel the speed!
Wren Alterana Minmatar The Baros Syndicate Kissaki Republic	Posted - 2008.04.24 05:31:00 - [4] Those designs are mostly out of date, AI advances have cut crew needs, and with the advancement of pod piloting most of us here most likely have a crew of only one.
Istvaan Shogaatsu Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club	Posted - 2008.04.24 11:27:00 - [5] Originally by: Wren Alterana Those designs are mostly out of date, AI advances have cut crew needs, and with the advancement of pod piloting most of us here most likely have a crew of only one. Incorrect.
Ardan Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.04.24 11:59:00 - [6] Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu Incorrect. Can you expound on this please? Because I don't know for sure. "Let them hate us as long as they Fear us." Colligula
Elsebeth Rhiannon Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2008.04.24 12:52:00 - [7] Edited by: Elsebeth Rhiannon on 24/04/2008 12:54:38 (( Hands of a Killer very clearly states crew on capsuleer ships. So does Forsaken Ruins. There's plenty more in PF, but I am too bored, or not bored enough, to look them up. Here and here are some previous discussions on the topic on these forums. I am sorry, but it's been discussed to death, and it is clear that if you are playing EVE as it is written, there is hundreds of crew on any of your bigger ships, and while you can invent escape capsules and stuff ("There were no survivors" etc on PF implies that sometimes there are survivors) they do not all make it to escape capsules every time either. You can of course play it so that you personally never have any contact to them but handle all through one first mate or an interface that hides the crew from you. But no, you do not have a fancy AI no one else has. Of course, you can always play some game almost but not completely unlike EVE, where you disregard some PF. Nothing wrong there and if it works for you, fine. Or, as has been proven in practice, you can also play Battlestar Galactica in EVE. I am just answering from the PF point of view. :) Can mods move this to say EVE library? It is not really discussable IC, as in the ingame reality we would all know what the facts are. EDIT: urlified)) -- Help us defend the Republic; join Gradient today.
April Knox COLD-Wing The Fourth District	Posted - 2008.04.25 23:11:00 - [8] Don't worry that much about your Crew. Your ship will go pop before you expect. If you start caring about Crew sized you'll end up decimating planets in the blink of an eye.
Vikarion Caldari Onyx Syndicate	Posted - 2008.04.26 01:35:00 - [9] I, of course, require that my crew don the standard Non-Atmospheric Survival Suit (NASS) whenever entering hostile conditions. That said, crew survival rate remains unfortunately low, since ship destruction almost universally involves destruction of the reactor core. Survival suits, although certainly adequate for the small amount of time one might expect to be stranded in space before rescue, are in no way equipped to deal with the enormous g-forces and temperatures occurring in an exploding ship, to say nothing of the shrapnel, exploding ammunition, and arcing electrical currents present. That said, I must note that - contrary to popular opinion - Amarrian ships that I've flown seem to have the highest survival ration. I theorize that this is because their incredibly thick hulls allow my crew more time to make it to hardened areas of the ship or the few escape pods before ship explosion. --------
Hurs Sokira Caldari Independent Navy Reserve The Fourth District	Posted - 2008.04.26 03:22:00 - [10] Experienced pod-pilots can minimize crew casualty rates if themselves or members of their gang attempt to recover the modules and perform salvage operations on ship's wrecks. Close proximity and time required during salvaging is often enough to rescue most of the crewmembers that have not been killed upon initial explosion. If you find yourself losing your ship, return back as soon as possible and initiate salvage operations. If you unable to do so, ask your gang-mates. Interceptors, assault frigates and especially destroyers are perfect for rescue and recovery operations, since they can get close to wrecks fast and often have extra high slot for salvage equipment.

Hanneshannes	Posted - 2008.04.30 17:31:00 - [11] Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu Cruiser: 400-800 Battlecruiser: 1000-2000 Battleship: 5000-7000 Dread/Carrier: 20,000+ Mom/Titan: Pick the population of your favorite large city, insert here. How huge are these ships supposed to be Where do 1000-2000 ppl fit on a drake, it seems to be rather flat but no idea how big it is supposed to be. Is it somewhat accurate if I assume that a destroyer has the size of a nuclear submarine and similar crew size? Also, 20000 ppl in a single carrier? I can imagine what crew would be used for but an aircraft carrier has what, 2000-4000 crew these days? All comes down to eh, how big are these ships in comparison?
Zumina Apoca Amarr Apoca Balder Trading	Posted - 2008.04.30 18:07:00 - [12] off the top of my head, I think the Thanatos is supposed to be just short of 3 km ?
Hanneshannes	Posted - 2008.04.30 18:23:00 - [13] I was reading through ingameship descriptions and some of the chronicles. Titans are supposed to be able to affect a planet's tides 3km eh? That's quite long xD
Saul Dhampir Caldari Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2008.04.30 18:45:00 - [14] I belive a Frigate is supposed to be about the size of a 747 so you can gauge ship sizes from that. Most pirate ships are 'conventional' ships with a full crew with bridge etc. This is far inferior to a pod enabled ship where the pilot is the brain. Thus a pod piloted Raven can destroy countless rats in any given Level 4 mission. Never the less, the figures stated by Istvaan are for pod enabled ships. If there is no pod, those number are higher. A frig is the only ship where you might be the only occupant. Larger frigs probebly have 2 or 3 additional crew. Sans pod this might be 12 to 15. At least, that is my understanding.

CCP Mitnal C C P	Posted - 2008.04.30 19:54:00 - [15] Moved to EVE Library, Intergalatic Summit posts are meant to be in character. Mitnal, Community Representative EVE Online CCP Games Email/Netfang

Aria Jenneth Caldari Ghost Festival	Posted - 2008.04.30 21:44:00 - [16] If you want to get a sense of the size of your ship, just view it from above with the tactical display switched on. EVE ships are big....
Hanneshannes	Posted - 2008.04.30 22:01:00 - [17] Edited by: Hanneshannes on 30/04/2008 22:06:06 Edited by: Hanneshannes on 30/04/2008 22:04:47 Edited by: Hanneshannes on 30/04/2008 22:03:44 Does anyone know if there is a full list like this: Linkage These are pretty cool as well: Ishtar Rokh Chimera Crow Megathron null hm... let me fix those links :P
Garion Avarr Amarr Zero Zero Traders	Posted - 2008.05.01 05:09:00 - [18] Originally by: Ardan Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu Incorrect. Can you expound on this please? Because I don't know for sure. There are dev posts stating in no uncertain terms that all capsuleer ships except frigates -- and not all frigates at that -- have crew besides the capsuleer. Period, it is not up for discussion or interpetation, both dev post and PF agree, there is crew. ________________________________ This is not a signature.
Deviana Sevidon Gallente Panta-Rhei Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.05.01 09:02:00 - [19] That the Ships have Crew is PF, it is up the player to decide how many people are in your ship, since the PF was never fully expanded on the subject. The general consensus seems to be, that Tech 1 Ships are standard vessels, that can be flown by non capsuleers and were only refitted for a capsule interface. Tech 2 Ships on the other hand are ships that were designed from the beginning, to be handled by a capsuleer. They have much less crew members and because of the decreased need for crew and life support, they have upgraded armor, shield, weapon or EW systems for the use of the capsuleer.
Seetesh Caldari Pixels Docks	Posted - 2008.05.01 13:05:00 - [20] Oh god if thats the crew sizes then im guilty of mass murder by the millions....

Culmen Caldari HeartVenom Inc.	Posted - 2008.05.02 02:25:00 - [21] Originally by: Hanneshannes Is it somewhat accurate if I assume that a destroyer has the size of a nuclear submarine and similar crew size? Also, 20000 ppl in a single carrier? I can imagine what crew would be used for but an aircraft carrier has what, 2000-4000 crew these days? All comes down to eh, how big are these ships in comparison? well heres some calculations the approximate volume of a typhoon as calculated from the ship chart is 13,320,900 m3s so even if only 5% is used by the crew as quarters that works out to be 95m3s per person, for a crew of 7000 thats about a 6.5m x 6.5m room per person, with a ceiling height of 3 meters plenty of room, thats bigger then some apartments
Hanneshannes	Posted - 2008.05.02 05:02:00 - [22] I find these sizes hard to imagine but thx, that clears it up somewhat.
Marine HK4861 Caldari Radical Technologies	Posted - 2008.05.02 23:45:00 - [23] Originally by: Hanneshannes I find these sizes hard to imagine but thx, that clears it up somewhat. Well take a look at this ship size chart. Now zoom in a bit and look at the bottom left hand corner. That's the 300m tall Eiffel tower, added for scale. Someone's taken the trouble to put approximate numbers for the ships, which can be found here. EVE ships are BIG.
Hanneshannes	Posted - 2008.05.03 10:24:00 - [24] W00t, cool. Thx :D
Verone Veto Corp	Posted - 2008.05.03 12:05:00 - [25] Originally by: Saul Dhampir I belive a Frigate is supposed to be about the size of a 747 so you can gauge ship sizes from that. Correct, I remember seeing a size chart in late 04 that had the silouhette of a rifter and a 747 on it. The rifter was about 10% larger, and crews three people. Work out sizes from that.
Hanneshannes	Posted - 2008.05.03 14:19:00 - [26] Titans remind me of the mothership the aliens in Independence day have lol (from the size point of view).
Mithfindel Argent Group	Posted - 2008.05.03 18:24:00 - [27] Originally by: Verone Originally by: Saul Dhampir I belive a Frigate is supposed to be about the size of a 747 so you can gauge ship sizes from that. Correct, I remember seeing a size chart in late 04 that had the silouhette of a rifter and a 747 on it. The rifter was about 10% larger, and crews three people. Work out sizes from that. I do remember that the old schematics actually mentioned a Rifter crew of one. However, most of the mentioned tier 3 frigates have a crew of 3 in those as well. (Nothing prevents the Rifter from having extra people on board, though - it might require more people when used as a troop transport, for example.)
Verone Veto Corp	Posted - 2008.05.05 12:43:00 - [28] Originally by: Mithfindel Originally by: Verone Originally by: Saul Dhampir I belive a Frigate is supposed to be about the size of a 747 so you can gauge ship sizes from that. Correct, I remember seeing a size chart in late 04 that had the silouhette of a rifter and a 747 on it. The rifter was about 10% larger, and crews three people. Work out sizes from that. I do remember that the old schematics actually mentioned a Rifter crew of one. However, most of the mentioned tier 3 frigates have a crew of 3 in those as well. (Nothing prevents the Rifter from having extra people on board, though - it might require more people when used as a troop transport, for example.) Yeah, there are several frigates that have a crew of three or so... I found a big chunk of the old schematics on my photobucket account : Tempest Rupture Vexor Tristan Tormentor Thorax Slasher Scorpion Rifter Reaper Raven Punisher Probe Osprey Moa Navitas Megathron Maller Iteron Inquisitor Incursus Executioner Dominix Condor Bantam Badger Auguror I think it's pretty safe to assume that the T2 variants of the ship hulls above have somewhat similar crewing levels, maybe slightly less given the refinement from original design and more advanced sub-systems. >>> THE LIFE OF AN OUTLAW - EVE FICTION <<<
Viktor Fyretracker Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.05.06 05:03:00 - [29] Originally by: Hanneshannes Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu Cruiser: 400-800 Battlecruiser: 1000-2000 Battleship: 5000-7000 Dread/Carrier: 20,000+ Mom/Titan: Pick the population of your favorite large city, insert here. How huge are these ships supposed to be Where do 1000-2000 ppl fit on a drake, it seems to be rather flat but no idea how big it is supposed to be. Is it somewhat accurate if I assume that a destroyer has the size of a nuclear submarine and similar crew size? Also, 20000 ppl in a single carrier? I can imagine what crew would be used for but an aircraft carrier has what, 2000-4000 crew these days? All comes down to eh, how big are these ships in comparison? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iowa_class_battleship this is a real world battleship, now when you think how big a drake must be. 1000 isnt a bad crew size. and a previous post is right a good scale idea is that a frigate class ship is around the size of a 747 airliner.
Mernor Akat The Scope	Posted - 2008.05.24 19:05:00 - [30] Sorry for gravedigging but has there ever been material released that shows how many crew are needed to run a mining barge?



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