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Cearain
Imperial Outlaws
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Posted - 2012.03.02 17:34:00 -
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George Nada wrote:Trebor Daehdoow wrote:The current chairman of the CSM, The Mittani, is the classic bloc candidate. To him, you are either a Goon or a "pubbie". The Mittani has an extremely low opinion of pubbies -- and yet now he wants your vote! This is some pretty libelous, sensationalist ****. Wow. You would think that a mastermind spymaster who heads arguably the most powerful bloc in EVE is quite capable of leading the CSM to victory .
Yes indeed if he is good at a computer game he must be good at something that requires real life skills.
George Nada wrote: Think of it like you would a father or a ship's captain. You may not like him, but you follow him knowing that he knows what is the right thing to do. .
Are you really this obsequious? Obey mittens command to vote for him like he is your captain or your father? I puked a little in my mouth.
George Nada wrote: Merely voting for CSM candidates who "you like" will simply get you more of the past -- e.g. CSM 1-5.
As long as there is hot blonde icelandic poon to chase, i'm sure that mittens will continue to deliver a strong performance as chairman next year like he did this year.
Great success at what?
His first act after being elected was to defend the horribly stupid path ccp was taking with incarna. Read his "In defense of incarna" if you doubt it.
He ran on a platform that said he would not push for blasters or assembly hall issues to be implemented and laughed at anyone who said they would be able to do that. Well we got our blaster fix. He specifically said csm shouldn't be pushing for these assembly hall changes we see were implemented in crucible. So he was wrong again. I love that he is trying to take credit for it now.
Even if you are in null sec I don't see what he has to offer. He admits its broken yet he is offering nothing specific as to how the capture mechanics should be fixed.
Mittani on what should happen in null sec: "However, I don't have any specific ideas about capture mechanics, nor did CCP bring up any at the summit" So nothing really changed did it? Its still broken. Another year of mittani at the head is likely to bring another year of nothing happening in null sec and no changes happening that will improve the game there.
Face it he is running because lots of mindless drones like you will vote for him even though he really tells us nothing about what he would like changed in eve.
Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Trebor Daehdoow
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
1840
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Posted - 2012.03.02 20:45:00 -
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George Nada wrote:Trebor Daehdoow wrote:The Mittani has an extremely low opinion of pubbies -- and yet now he wants your vote! This is some pretty libelous, sensationalist ****. Wow. Really? The Mittani has been very forthright with respect to his opinions about "pubbies". A casual EVE-Search is all you need to do.
Quote:But nope, since he doesn't suck every **** and kiss every pubbie ass, he's a bad candidate. I see. Did I say that? Not at all. The Mittani is a hard-working member of the CSM, and deserves to be re-elected. All I said was that he doesn't need non-goon votes to get re-elected, and doesn't care much for the opinions of non-goons, so there was no reason why they should vote for him -- their vote could be better spent elsewhere.
Quote:As long as there is hot blonde icelandic poon to chase, i'm sure that mittens will continue to deliver a strong performance I hate to break it to you, but Mrs. Mittens makes him put his manhood in a blind trust before leaving for Iceland.
Takezo Kensei wrote:At least have the brains to put someone else publish this trash piece, you're not doing yourself any favours. Which would you prefer, someone who openly states his opinions, even if they might be unpopular (or cost him votes), or someone who hides behind alts and surrogates? Surely not the latter.
Re-Elect Trebor to the CSM - because I have not yet plumbed the depths of my inherent masochism!
My CSM Blog |
Franklin D Roosevelt
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
81
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Posted - 2012.03.02 20:50:00 -
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Trebor Daehdoow wrote:George Nada wrote:Trebor Daehdoow wrote:The Mittani has an extremely low opinion of pubbies -- and yet now he wants your vote! This is some pretty libelous, sensationalist ****. Wow. Really? The Mittani has been very forthright with respect to his opinions about "pubbies". A casual EVE-Search is all you need to do. Quote:But nope, since he doesn't suck every **** and kiss every pubbie ass, he's a bad candidate. I see. Did I say that? Not at all. The Mittani is a hard-working member of the CSM, and deserves to be re-elected. All I said was that he doesn't need non-goon votes to get re-elected, and doesn't care much for the opinions of non-goons, so there was no reason why they should vote for him -- their vote could be better spent elsewhere. Quote:As long as there is hot blonde icelandic poon to chase, i'm sure that mittens will continue to deliver a strong performance I hate to break it to you, but Mrs. Mittens makes him put his manhood in a blind trust before leaving for Iceland. Which would you prefer, someone who openly states his opinions, even if they might be unpopular (or cost him votes), or someone who hides behind alts and surrogates? Surely not the latter. Trebor,
What is your opinion on the fact that The Mittani is best friends with many on the CCP development team? Do you think that it is a little odd that the current head of CCP security is the former CEO of goonfleet? What will you do to investigate the ties that The Mittani has to CCP outside of the game that may have an undue influence on the in game world? I think that there should be an investigation in to how many "goons" get checks cut by CCP. Will you be the man to do this? If you will you will get my vote even though you are an awful pubby. |
Trebor Daehdoow
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
1841
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Posted - 2012.03.03 01:40:00 -
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Franklin D Roosevelt wrote:What is your opinion on the fact that The Mittani is best friends with many on the CCP development team? Do you think that it is a little odd that the current head of CCP security is the former CEO of goonfleet? What will you do to investigate the ties that The Mittani has to CCP outside of the game that may have an undue influence on the in game world? I think that there should be an investigation in to how many "goons" get checks cut by CCP. Will you be the man to do this? There are many people on the CSM who are friends with devs. Rumor has it that one of the current members of the CSM is actually a former dev.
If you have evidence that a CCP dev (or a member of the CSM) is behaving improperly, there are established channels to address this. I would strongly urge you to use them.
Quote:If you will you will get my vote even though you are an awful pubby. I doubt I'll get your vote, but I did appreciate the bump! Re-Elect Trebor to the CSM - because I have not yet plumbed the depths of my inherent masochism!
My CSM Blog |
Alekseyev Karrde
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
389
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Posted - 2012.03.03 02:12:00 -
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Taiwanistan wrote:csm 4 brought real influence to the csm, Hells yeah we did. www.noirmercs.com Now Recruiting #VoteAlek for CSM7-áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=67574&find=unread |
Taiwanistan
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
183
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Posted - 2012.03.03 02:21:00 -
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lol npc duder calling Trebor a pubbie wis: a roman orgy of all-you-can-eat social /dance o7m8 dressup, unrestrained do ask do tell out and proud at the space bar dollhouse, all the evolving new and exciting things you've ever wanted.
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Varr Dorn
Blue Flame Ore Excavations
2
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Posted - 2012.03.03 02:54:00 -
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Trebor Daehdoow wrote:Red Templar wrote:There is no such thing as wasted votes. Not in RL, not in EVE. This is demonstrably incorrect. For example, every vote The Mittani gets in excess of the number needed for him to become chairman (his stated goal) is a wasted vote; it could have been used to elect other candidates with similar views. In the last election, The Mittani received 1552 overvotes. These would have been enough to put another candidate onto the CSM. Ntrails pointed this out while I was composing this reply; great minds think alike. Similarly, about 30% of the votes were cast for candidates who did not get elected. If those had been transferred in some way, the council would have been more representative of the wishes of the voters. This is not demonstrably incorrect. It simply depends on your point of view. My point of view dictates that my vote demonstrates my opinion. If I want to demonstrate, for instance, support for the Mittani's views, I vote for the Mittani. It won't make him any more powerful in the CSM (it all depends on how they work, as you said), but it does demonstrate to CCP where my priorities are. For the record, I am an 'independent'/undecided right now.
Quote:Quote:Players should vote for who they like and who they believe in, nothing else. The fact that such a strategy amplifies the voting power of organized blocs should be obvious to everyone. The sad fact of the matter is that the current voting system forces people to vote tactically. I would also point out that I am on record as being in favor of a system that does not require tactical voting -- that permits people to vote for who they believe in. This is despite the fact that it may well reduce my vote total, since under such a system, I would not be the beneficiary of tactical votes. It does not amplify the voting power of organized blocs. According to you, the organized bloc candidates are fairly certain to be elected. So the vote changes nothing of the results, except expressing one's opinion. As you said, it doesn't matter if they are Seat 1 or Seat 7. In fact, if we were to take your suggestion of voting for a similarly minded candidate rather than a favored contender, we are simply doubling the voting blocs power. I.E. If someone decides they don't want to waste a Vote on Mittens, but they like his views. So every extra vote goes to a candidate with similar views. How is the CSM now more representative of the playerbase? Now we just have Mittens +clone...
Also, as far as 'not having a chance at winning' or however you phrased it... Everyone that is up for election has a chance at winning. If someone decides not to vote for a 'long shot' based on that..of course they won't be elected! they didn't get any votes! If, however, you vote based on your personal beliefs/opinions...your candidate may not win, but your views have been made known to the community (and more importantly to CCP). And if you're lucky, you might get a lot of others voting with you because they agree (even if they were not vocal about agreeing with it, or the opinion is not popular)
Vote as you please.
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Josef Djugashvilis
The Scope Gallente Federation
7
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Posted - 2012.03.03 09:43:00 -
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Red Templar wrote:It would be a nice guide if it was void of personal agenda leaking from every paragraph.You are a true politician Trebor. And i dont mean it in a nice way.
And i strongly disagree that votes for popular candidates that have bloc support are wasted votes. There is no such thing as wasted votes. Not in RL, not in EVE. Players should vote for who they like and who they believe in, nothing else. And certainly not voting for their second/third person on the like list, just because they think that their primary candidate has enough votes already. Thats bullshit that can have a very big cost and harsh consequences.
Cheers.
Tactical voting...look it up |
Delici Feelgood
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
15
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Posted - 2012.03.03 10:32:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Red Templar wrote:It would be a nice guide if it was void of personal agenda leaking from every paragraph.You are a true politician Trebor. And i dont mean it in a nice way.
And i strongly disagree that votes for popular candidates that have bloc support are wasted votes. There is no such thing as wasted votes. Not in RL, not in EVE. Players should vote for who they like and who they believe in, nothing else. And certainly not voting for their second/third person on the like list, just because they think that their primary candidate has enough votes already. Thats bullshit that can have a very big cost and harsh consequences.
Cheers. Tactical voting...look it up
He's a member of Goonswarm, if he hasn't finished basic training he may not have advanced past the Sesame street videos as yet.
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Rakshasa Taisab
Sane Industries Inc.
748
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Posted - 2012.03.03 11:38:00 -
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Takezo Kensei wrote:Wait... you're running yourself and still call this piece `The Independent Voter's Guide to the CSM 7 Elections`? Hahaha. No conficts there right? Nope. Like a boss. You didn't even insert yourself in your `Proven Performers` list. Neh. Grammar; the difference between helping uncle Jack off the horse, and employing lots of lotion to pleasure the horse.
You're the guy who ended up with lots of horse sperm on you, when all you got asked was to help your uncle get down. 84,000 AUR ($420) spent on NeX store for Troll and Profit. |
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Trebor Daehdoow
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
1851
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Posted - 2012.03.03 19:57:00 -
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Varr Dorn wrote:This is not demonstrably incorrect. It simply depends on your point of view. My point of view dictates that my vote demonstrates my opinion. If I want to demonstrate, for instance, support for the Mittani's views, I vote for the Mittani. It won't make him any more powerful in the CSM (it all depends on how they work, as you said), but it does demonstrate to CCP where my priorities are. For the record, I am an 'independent'/undecided right now.
Ah, but if you knew that Alex was going to be elected, then you could vote for someone else that you think should be on the CSM, and you would effectively be getting two for the price of one.
The beauty of vote-reallocation systems is that they allow your vote to indicate not just your *first* preference, but also your preference rankings.
Quote:It does not amplify the voting power of organized blocs. According to you, the organized bloc candidates are fairly certain to be elected. So the vote changes nothing of the results, except expressing one's opinion. This is not correct, for the reason stated above. You may wish to read the Wikipedia article on Voting Systems for a more in-depth discussion of the topic.
Quote:If someone decides they don't want to waste a Vote on Mittens, but they like his views. So every extra vote goes to a candidate with similar views. How is the CSM now more representative of the playerbase? Now we just have Mittens +clone... If this potential outcome concerns you, then you would be in favor of a system that only transfers undervotes, but not overvotes.
People can -- and should -- argue passionately about exactly what voting system is best. But mathematically, it can be shown that there are systems that are far better than the current one in producing results that represent the views of the voting community.
I am not advocating for a perfect voting system, because there isn't one. I'm just arguing in favor of a *better* voting system, of which there are many. Re-Elect Trebor to the CSM - because I have not yet plumbed the depths of my inherent masochism!
My CSM Blog |
Trebor Daehdoow
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
1851
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Posted - 2012.03.04 14:44:00 -
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Snowflake Tem wrote:But you have to admire the skill of a guy who can guide the minds of the uninformed in a manner that at first glance appears to be impartial. My intent was not to "appear" impartial. My intent was to get people to think about issues related to the election process.
I probably benefit from the current system, because of name recognition and the incumbency effect. But unlike some, I am not a natural politician, and I would prefer a system that put more emphasis on the qualifications of the individual candidates and the quality of their arguments, because I believe that would result in a more effective CSM.
Re-Elect Trebor to the CSM - because I have not yet plumbed the depths of my inherent masochism!
My CSM Blog |
Rakshasa Taisab
Sane Industries Inc.
748
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Posted - 2012.03.04 15:58:00 -
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Trebor Daehdoow wrote:Snowflake Tem wrote:But you have to admire the skill of a guy who can guide the minds of the uninformed in a manner that at first glance appears to be impartial. My intent was not to "appear" impartial. My intent was to get people to think about issues related to the election process. I probably benefit from the current system, because of name recognition and the incumbency effect. But unlike some, I am not a natural politician, and I would prefer a system that put more emphasis on the qualifications of the individual candidates and the quality of their arguments, because I believe that would result in a more effective CSM. You should be giving them a lecture in grammar, not this half-way apologist vote-mongering stance.
They ****** up their English grammar reading skills and you should not make any excuses at all on their behalf. They are jacking off the horse while all you wanted was to get Jack off the horse. 84,000 AUR ($420) spent on NeX store for Troll and Profit. |
Trebor Daehdoow
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
1851
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Posted - 2012.03.05 00:03:00 -
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Rakshasa Taisab wrote:You should be giving them a lecture in grammar, not this half-way apologist vote-mongering stance. I find it more effective to overlook any minor technical deficiencies in posts, but rather focus on those parts of them that will advance the discussion.
If they are serious, they will appreciate it, and if they are trolls, it will annoy them. So it's win-win.
Re-Elect Trebor to the CSM - because I have not yet plumbed the depths of my inherent masochism!
My CSM Blog |
Killer Gandry
V I R I I Ineluctable.
62
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Posted - 2012.03.05 01:06:00 -
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Revolution Rising wrote: AFK mining isn't really that bad, but does still detract from the entire idea of multiplayer at all. And the fact that it can be done AFK while almost all other activities can't be done AFK is an inbalance and an additional reason it should be changed to help stop the ease with which these programs can be written for botting.
AFK cloaking comes to mind there. Howmuch do those participate of the entire idea of multiplayer?
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Trebor Daehdoow
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
1854
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Posted - 2012.03.05 10:56:00 -
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Killer Gandry wrote:Revolution Rising wrote: AFK mining isn't really that bad, but does still detract from the entire idea of multiplayer at all. And the fact that it can be done AFK while almost all other activities can't be done AFK is an inbalance and an additional reason it should be changed to help stop the ease with which these programs can be written for botting.
AFK cloaking comes to mind there. Howmuch do those participate of the entire idea of multiplayer? I think you posted this in the wrong thread. But thanks for the bump! Re-Elect Trebor to the CSM - because I have not yet plumbed the depths of my inherent masochism!
My CSM Blog |
Azure Moonlight
Atomic Core Industries and Science
2
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Posted - 2012.03.05 11:14:00 -
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I really wondered about Issler Dainzes thread myself. I like some of her ideas, but the whole thing kinda reminds me of a bad voting scam. To much blah and goons all over the topic.
So who is this Issler Dainze, does she mean business or is it really just a troll? (and wtf is up with CCP, if they allow such a thing in CSM elections) |
Salmax Vrall
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2012.03.05 12:18:00 -
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Trebor, thanks for this 'independent' guide.
Add it to blogs, forums and podcasts and I reckon there's enough info to make a call on.
You got one of my votes dude.
Keep doing what you're doing.
Nothin to see here, jog on.
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Red Templar
Raging Ducks Goonswarm Federation
149
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Posted - 2012.03.05 12:30:00 -
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Delici Feelgood wrote:He's a member of Goonswarm, if he hasn't finished basic training he may not have advanced past the Sesame street videos as yet. And you are a member of npc corp. So either you are a coward to not post with your main. Or you are just worthless as human being and no one wants you.
Either way. Congratulations. For Love. For Peace. For Honor.
For None of the Above.
For Pony! |
Snowflake Tem
The Order of Symbolic Measures
45
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Posted - 2012.03.05 13:25:00 -
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Trebor Daehdoow wrote:Rakshasa Taisab wrote:You should be giving them a lecture in grammar, not this half-way apologist vote-mongering stance. I find it more effective to overlook any minor technical deficiencies in posts, but rather focus on those parts of them that will advance the discussion. If they are serious, they will appreciate it, and if they are trolls, it will annoy them. So it's win-win.
You should know that it is appreciated. Not everyone cares to, or has time for, appeasing the self-appointed guardians of the English language with appropriate punctuation.
I can't find a thread discussing the merits of different voting models. Does it exist?
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Rakshasa Taisab
Sane Industries Inc.
749
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Posted - 2012.03.05 14:08:00 -
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Snowflake Tem wrote:You should know that it is appreciated. Not everyone cares to, or has time for, appeasing the self-appointed guardians of the English language with appropriate punctuation. Sometimes the the appropriate punctuation completely changes the meaning of a sentence.
Like; "The Independent Voter's Guide to the CSM 7 Elections" vs. "The Independent Voter's Guide to the CSM 7 Elections" 84,000 AUR ($420) spent on NeX store for Troll and Profit. |
Qin Shi Huang
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
24
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Posted - 2012.03.05 14:26:00 -
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+1 This is excellent. |
Indahmawar Fazmarai
The I and F Taxation Trust
294
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Posted - 2012.03.05 14:38:00 -
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I had almost bought on it until i read the attack on Issler Daize.
Honestly her forum campaign has been easily improveable and she's quite hopeless to build enough support from the miner crowd in the short time left, but provided she's the only CSM runner to take WiS mostly seriously, that's where my vote will end up. if i was interested to "winning" i would go for Hans, but, whatever, passing April this game will no longer concern me...
EVE residents: 5% Wormholes; 8% Lowsec; 20% Nullsec; 67% Highsec. CSM 6: 100% Nullsec residents.
EVE demographics vs CSM demographics, nothing to worry about...-á |
Jalmari Huitsikko
draketrain Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
52
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Posted - 2012.03.05 14:55:00 -
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As a long time xxpizzaxx member Trebor (or his alt) is xxpizzaxx official CSM canditate.
Everyone should vote him. He's cool guy.
Vote Trebor Vote PIZZA. |
Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
222
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Posted - 2012.03.05 15:18:00 -
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There is no such thing as objectivity. The pretense of objectivity is the cloak that the very worst types of intellectual dishonesty and hidden agendas shroud themselves in, especially on these forums. Trebor, as a CSM candidate, is a known quantity in terms of his biases, which are available to the public in the form of his candidacy thread and his past actions as a CSM member. As such, his biases are easy to account for, and I would think that anyone would prefer them to the unknowable biases of someone claiming not to have taken a position in this election, with no visible corp affiliation, or from an NPC corp.
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Snowflake Tem
The Order of Symbolic Measures
45
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Posted - 2012.03.05 17:12:00 -
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Rakshasa Taisab wrote:Snowflake Tem wrote:You should know that it is appreciated. Not everyone cares to, or has time for, appeasing the self-appointed guardians of the English language with appropriate punctuation. Sometimes the the appropriate punctuation completely changes the meaning of a sentence. Like; "The Independent Voter's Guide to the CSM 7 Elections" vs. "The Independent Voter's Guide to the CSM 7 Elections"
In that case I think you meant emphasis, which I agree is important, but can also be forgiven. Period.
The Order of Symbolic Measures The Order of Symbolic Measures The Order of Symbolic Measures The Order of Symbolic Measures |
Snowflake Tem
The Order of Symbolic Measures
45
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Posted - 2012.03.05 17:58:00 -
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Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:I had almost bought on it until i read the attack on Issler Daize.
Honestly her forum campaign has been easily improveable and she's quite hopeless to build enough support from the miner crowd in the short time left, but provided she's the only CSM runner to take WiS mostly seriously, that's where my vote will end up. if i was interested to "winning" i would go for Hans, but, whatever, passing April this game will no longer concern me...
I also think Hans has the strongest support outside of the CSM6 runners. WiS will remain on back-burn until the mit-master gets round to giving his blessing so there really is no point putting your vote in support of it. Now, if Trebor changed his stance on the issue that would be a game changer. |
Seleene
Body Count Inc. Pandemic Legion
1342
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Posted - 2012.03.05 18:45:00 -
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Snowflake Tem wrote:Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:I had almost bought on it until i read the attack on Issler Daize.
Honestly her forum campaign has been easily improveable and she's quite hopeless to build enough support from the miner crowd in the short time left, but provided she's the only CSM runner to take WiS mostly seriously, that's where my vote will end up. if i was interested to "winning" i would go for Hans, but, whatever, passing April this game will no longer concern me...
I also think Hans has the strongest support outside of the CSM6 runners. WiS will remain on back-burn until the mit-master gets round to giving his blessing so there really is no point putting your vote in support of it. Now, if Trebor changed his stance on the issue that would be a game changer.
At this point,CCP has already decided what they are going to be doing for the immediate future. No amount of noise about Inarna is going to change that after the events is last summer. They need a solid plan, they need gameplay and they need to do it right. Until the small team they have working those issues resolves them, CCP isn't even going to begin considering the reallocation of resources. Keeping the conversation going about Incarna is fine, but the reason you do not see people like myself or Trebor spending time trying to make it a campaign issue is that based upon everything we know and cCP has said, our efforts are better spent promoting dialogue on more near term issues. Don't shoot the messenger. :) Seleene's Sandbox - My Blog, where I say stuff. Follow Seleene on Twitter |
Swesal
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.03.05 19:36:00 -
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Can't help but think there is somekinda oldboys club attitude here, you have most the CSM's all patting eachother on the backs saying what a great jobs that some of them did, i'v even heard some trying to take credit for crucible's success, imply that it was CSM's that showed CCP the light...... and not to take away from the actual work you all did do, but it was the the riots, and unsubs that showed CCP the light not the CSM, CSM passed along the crowdsource info, and helped in the process no question, but it was the player that forced the change. Crucible would have never been released had such events never happened.
I kinda went off there, the real reason i'm posting is to ask, what in your opinion qualifies someone as a proven performer?
I would think it would be something like they have been on CSM in the past, and have performed well, but this clearly isn't the case. So if you could shad some light on what looks like oldboys club picks of Hans and your take on "proven performers" as the only votes not wasted that would be great, thanks. |
Snowflake Tem
The Order of Symbolic Measures
45
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Posted - 2012.03.05 19:59:00 -
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Seleene wrote: At this point,CCP has already decided what they are going to be doing for the immediate future. No amount of noise about Inarna is going to change that after the events is last summer. They need a solid plan, they need gameplay and they need to do it right. Until the small team they have working those issues resolves them, CCP isn't even going to begin considering the reallocation of resources. Keeping the conversation going about Incarna is fine, but the reason you do not see people like myself or Trebor spending time trying to make it a campaign issue is that based upon everything we know and cCP has said, our efforts are better spent promoting dialogue on more near term issues. Don't shoot the messenger. :)
I'm already resigned to that fact that banging on the incana drum in pointless. but you must agree that in speaking as one voice CSM6 has left voters with very little to choose between the previously elected candidates. More of the same isn't as an appealing a message as you guys seem to think it is. But there will always be a special place in my heart for you Seleene, so no head shots today. |
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