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ViolenTUK
Gallente Vindicated Exiles
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Posted - 2008.04.28 16:30:00 -
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Originally by: Harley Gonzo Edited by: Harley Gonzo on 26/04/2008 03:01:23 Lets say, remove ice fields from BOTH highsec and 0.0?
This would REQUIRE the use of lowsec to support 0.0 alliances, would create lowsec alliances, and populate lowsec in general.
let the flames begin!
No. removing anything from high sec and putting it in lower security space will never help. High sec dwellers would just mine somthing else that is available in high sec. You wouldnt see any change in high sec at all just fewer eve online subscriptions in general.
I agree with you that low sec has a low population but you need to give high sec dwellers a reason to go to low sec without taking anything away.
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ViolenTUK
Gallente Vindicated Exiles
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Posted - 2008.04.28 22:02:00 -
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Originally by: angient
The whole point of moving ice to low sec is that Ice is essential to fueling pos's. And without ice carebears couldnt fuel thier pos's and would be FORCED to go to low sec. Or not have a pos.
Thats right thats all that would happen. Little or no Player owned stations in empire. You wouldn't force them into low sec at all they simply wouldnt keep one.
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ViolenTUK
Gallente Vindicated Exiles
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Posted - 2008.04.29 08:08:00 -
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Originally by: MilowFV Though it is an idea that would move alot more players into low sec.
No it wouldn't. You would not move people to low sec by moving the ice fields. High sec miners would just mine somthing else. They would unanchor their pos at a similar time.
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ViolenTUK
Gallente Vindicated Exiles
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Posted - 2008.04.29 08:43:00 -
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Originally by: Harley Gonzo
I don't think you grasp how important POS's are to the game.
Empire pos's arenĘt as important as many make out. They are particularly useful for tech 1 blueprint material research but manufacture is possible and profitable without ME research although due to the huge deflation of virtually all ships and modules over the past few years the profit margin is very thin. You can invent through a pos mobile lab but there are many slots available in npc stations it isnĘt really necessary and this is the case with copying also.
Profitable manufacturing is mainly through the invention of copied blueprint which can be accomplished without the need of a pos and this has become increasingly common. Eve economics certainly arenĘt run on pos's.
Originally by: Harley Gonzo
I really doubt all of highsec and 0.0 are going to just scrap their pos's to avoid lowsec.
Referring to empire they just might do that. Many players really do hate low sec that much. Even if eve economics ran on pos's it isnĘt their duty to continue fulfilling their industrial role. Faced with the option of mining in low security many players would simply look at a different aspect of eve and turn to something else.
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ViolenTUK
Gallente Vindicated Exiles
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Posted - 2008.05.04 15:28:00 -
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NO-ONE would move to low sec because the ice fields were moved there NO-ONE. Yes i have stated in this thread that high sec dwellers would rather take down their POS's than venture into low sec. You MUST accept this. |
ViolenTUK
Gallente Vindicated Exiles
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Posted - 2008.05.05 00:56:00 -
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Originally by: Harley Gonzo
2. ViolenTUK, same goes to you, EXPLAIN TO ME why you think every pos owner in eve will give up their pos? You think BOBs gonna down all their pos's cuz they don't want to go to lowsec? Like I said before, I don't think you realize how important pos's are. Specifically in 0.0. Pos's control territory and allow things like jump bridges, cyno jammers, and system scanners. Major alliances are not going to give these things up just to avoid lowsec.Also, a dysprosium moon makes whoever mines it over 1bil a WEEK. You'd give up a 1bil a week income just to avoid lowsec?
I already have explained it to you although with your reference to 0.0 it is clear you were not listening as I was referring to empire space. None of your arguments are valid for empire. Remember that all high security pos's are really useful for in empire is ME research which is very useful but not as important enough to risk the gain from cutting at the most 10 percent mineral value verses the massive risk involved securing low sec.
Most importantly you donĘt seem to realize that pos ownership and maintenance is purely by choice and if faced with the massive risk of changing current empire mining and security for empire corps to low security pos's will be dropped. It simply isnĘt worth it. Copying and invention can be accomplished without a pos since empire station slots for invention and copying are cheap and available and this is where the money is.
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