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Garak Jakobs
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.01 22:19:00 -
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After reading this blog :
http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=9133
It dawned on me that indeed CCP in fact are doing some great work in showing the botters just who is boss by a show of power!!
A Jovian kind of power display would have been nice but meeeh this will certainly do =D so great work CCP & great work CCP Sreegs.
I think killing RMT will be much more difficult though. The "powerful" people in this game are undoubtedly heads of the larger alliances. It is alleged that these powerful alliances and some of the more well known players do take advantage of RMT.
[ excluding the Veld God that is Chribba ]
My question is this, If this is true [I did state alleged above] how will CCP deal with this situation?
Of course there is no player/s bigger than the game but some people do carry a certain amount of weight within Eve and It's in-game infrastructure. I am however curious as to how CCP will approach this, and to that end how they will deal with this. |
Feligast
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1142
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Posted - 2012.03.01 22:22:00 -
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It is alleged NPC alts are ruining the game with their bad posting.
If this is true [I did state alleged above], what is CCP going to do about it? |
Mai Khumm
Apple Construction Inc Northern Associates.
172
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Posted - 2012.03.01 22:25:00 -
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I'm impressed that CCP is taking steps to removing all bots within the game...
If I was going to fanfest, I'd buy the security team a round...
Keep up the good work!!! "Being drunk is a good disguise. I drink so I can talk to a**holes. This includes me." |
Karn Dulake
Souls Must Be Trampled The.Alliance
392
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Posted - 2012.03.01 22:37:00 -
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If you ban RMT wont half the meta alliances in nullsec collapse as there CEOs will have no reason to play anymore I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion. |
Nub Sauce
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.01 22:39:00 -
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Garak Jakobs wrote:After reading this blog : http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=9133It dawned on me that indeed CCP in fact are doing some great work in showing the botters just who is boss by a show of power!! A Jovian kind of power display would have been nice but meeeh this will certainly do =D so great work CCP & great work CCP Sreegs. I think killing RMT will be much more difficult though. The "powerful" people in this game are undoubtedly heads of the larger alliances. It is alleged that these powerful alliances and some of the more well known players do take advantage of RMT. [ excluding the Veld God that is Chribba ] My question is this, If this is true [I did state alleged above] how will CCP deal with this situation? Of course there is no player/s bigger than the game but some people do carry a certain amount of weight within Eve and It's in-game infrastructure. I am however curious as to how CCP will approach this, and to that end how they will deal with this.
Hopefully they mercilessly wipe them from the game. There's nothing bad about mega alliances collapsing so there should be no worries about how things go down regarding RMT bans. |
Garak Jakobs
Aliastra Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2012.03.01 23:14:00 -
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Feligast wrote:It is alleged NPC alts are ruining the game with their bad posting.
If this is true [I did state alleged above], what is CCP going to do about it?
1. You did not state anything alleged above. 2. Your post confirms OP by way of reaction.
Sincerely yours, Eve spelling police Head of Grammar Department |
Liam Mirren
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Posted - 2012.03.01 23:22:00 -
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Karn Dulake wrote:If you ban RMT wont half the meta alliances in nullsec collapse as there CEOs will have no reason to play anymore
You make it sound as if that would be a bad thing. Excellence is not a skill, it's an attitude.
My guides: http://mirren.freeforums.org |
Mai Khumm
Apple Construction Inc Northern Associates.
172
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Posted - 2012.03.02 03:06:00 -
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Liam Mirren wrote:Karn Dulake wrote:If you ban RMT wont half the meta alliances in nullsec collapse as there CEOs will have no reason to play anymore You make it sound as if that would be a bad thing.
It's something I'm looking forward to... "Being drunk is a good disguise. I drink so I can talk to a**holes. This includes me." |
Valei Khurelem
394
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Posted - 2012.03.02 03:07:00 -
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Feligast wrote:It is alleged alternate characters are ruining the game with their bad posting.
If this is true ( I did state alleged above ) what is CCP going to do about it?
fixt for bad posting, you're right, these characters are a menace.
"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP." -á - CCP Ytterbium |
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1356
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Posted - 2012.03.02 03:12:00 -
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I do not...
But i have quite different opinion about RMT.
RMT by hacking/freuds etc. is bad indeed
RMT through selling stuff you earned in game is fine / but still against EULA, because of some "stupid laws" which are just idea of bunch of assholes who think they create an modern sociaty by putting restriction and meaningless buerocracy.
What is an differentce between sitting in office for eight hourse and getting paid for it.. while basically doing nothing of "real" value, not producting any "real" products.
Or managing large alliance, many of people, generally being better manager than the ones of -îEZ and getting paid for it afterwards.
You answer that. Death to all Banks and Economy bullshit. |
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Garak Jakobs
Aliastra Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2012.03.02 09:40:00 -
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Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:Or managing large alliance, many of people, generally being better manager than the ones of -îEZ and getting paid for it afterwards.
But these people are sad pathetic losers in life. They are addicted to a video game to the point they spend every waking hour guiding their alliance. They more than likely have no job, no income, no partner/wife, no children and living off the state on handouts. All because of a precious alliance.
An alliance in a world of pixels, something not at all real. Are pixels *really* worth losing out on life for?
I love Eve but I dis-allow it to dominate my life, I play this game for fun and nothing more. It does not consume me unlike alliance heads.
RMT is very very bad and hope CCP do indeed strike down with vengeance and furious anger because it is deserved
The day the larger alliances begin to fall because of the punishments dealt out because of there part in RMT will make for a much more enjoyable, diverse 0.0.
I hope the ban hammer swings shortly. CCP have to remember they are the super power in this game, the creator. Not some alliance head who as stated above is some life lazy lard ar$e.
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baltec1
754
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Posted - 2012.03.02 09:55:00 -
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Karn Dulake wrote:If you ban RMT wont half the meta alliances in nullsec collapse as there CEOs will have no reason to play anymore
Only the ones who need to fun massive supercap fleet. Goona be interesting to find out just how many titans will vanish if CCP go after all their assets
Also, we might find out where all of WN's isk went. |
Sasha Azala
Blood and Decay
55
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Posted - 2012.03.02 10:42:00 -
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Players that RMT or organised groups that RMT are really just commiting theft.
Why do I say theft, because they're taking something that belongs to someone else (CCP in this case) and selling it.
So it's good to see CCP actually hitting them hard, harder the better.
There's no excuse for RMTing by players or organised groups, so it should be dealt with harshly.
I would go as far as say delete the characters and goods, but there has to be some form of appeal unless you're really sure that no error has occured. So it would be best to freeze the account and possibly delete the character and goods after an appeal period. |
Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
244
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Posted - 2012.03.02 11:29:00 -
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baltec1 wrote: [...] Only the ones who need to fun massive supercap fleet. Goona be interesting to find out just how many titans will vanish if CCP go after all their assets [...]
^^I see what you did there.^^
I are kyute kitten! I are in ur mishun! Redoosin' teh lag by ninja'ing ur wrekz! (CCP: Make wrecks probable, and after 30min., tractorable.) |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2278
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Posted - 2012.03.02 11:33:00 -
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Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:RMT through selling stuff you earned in game is fine
Wrong, actually. RMT is bad for business. You sell your stuff to another player and they don't have to work their way towards it through gameplay, i.e. paying for gametime. "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Sasha Azala
Blood and Decay
55
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Posted - 2012.03.02 13:00:00 -
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Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:RMT through selling stuff you earned in game is fine / but still against EULA, because of some "stupid laws" which are just idea of bunch of assholes who think they create an modern sociaty by putting restriction and meaningless buerocracy.
You are wrong for the simple fact that you do not own what you would be selling and as such would have no right to sell it.
Now if CCP gave you that right it would be a different story, but they don't as you pointed out with the EULA. |
Henry Haphorn
Aliastra Gallente Federation
204
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Posted - 2012.03.02 13:12:00 -
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Karn Dulake wrote:If you ban RMT wont half the meta alliances in nullsec collapse as there CEOs will have no reason to play anymore
By the time that day arrives, our last f*** will have already gone that way ----->
Alliances rise and fall constantly like the peaks and troughs of Wallstreet. But unlike Wallstreet, the failing corp/alliances are strung up high in the open air and left to rot like the fish in the pic that CCP Sreegs posted in his blog. It's just the way it is. Welcome to Eve Online. Don't expect people to be nice to you. |
Garak Jakobs
Aliastra Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2012.03.02 16:11:00 -
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That may be true but I wonder just what the difference will be on the battlefield? RMT surely affords these large alliances the stupid amount of Titans and Super Carriers they have. I think we would see alot less of these starships if there were to be a most serious crack down on RMT.
It is not an easy task to afford a Titan for anybody yet we see the stupid amount being fielded in certain conflicts. Many tens of Titans, multiple trillions of isk!! This cannot be afforded through normal game play surely? I understand a Super at about 16 billion is affordable from the hard work of a single pilot. Are Titans affordable from the efforts of 1 pilot? to self fund this massive ship? I cannot see it personally
But as we speak of this, It's amazing just how fast these are recuperated upon loss and that is exactly where to look for RMT. |
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1356
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Posted - 2012.03.02 16:50:00 -
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Andski wrote:Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:RMT through selling stuff you earned in game is fine Wrong, actually. RMT is bad for business. You sell your stuff to another player and they don't have to work their way towards it through gameplay, i.e. paying for gametime.
Well in the game such as EVE, everything you get in game can be destroyed in game.. So generally it is just an shortcut .. sort of ..
I know my view is quite controversial. |
Thomas Abernathy
Phantom Squad Nulli Secunda
60
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Posted - 2012.03.02 16:55:00 -
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Hmm, amusing. But if you wipe the Bots, will they still have enough people to keep the game running?
"Fighting CCD since 2139" |
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Valei Khurelem
394
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Posted - 2012.03.02 16:59:00 -
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If everyone were allowed to bot then botters wouldn't have such an advantage in the first place.
"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP." -á - CCP Ytterbium |
Sasha Azala
Blood and Decay
55
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Posted - 2012.03.02 17:11:00 -
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Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:What you earned you earned by commiting your time... time=money.. In this pathetic world at least.
Time = money?
Not always;
Time = enjoyment
Time = recreation
Time can equal lots of things.
In the world of MMOs time does not normally equal money unless you count your recreational time as a loss of income. If you do then you need to think about what you're doing.
As long as you're comfortable in life money becomes less important anyway. |
Killstealing
Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild
453
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Posted - 2012.03.02 17:11:00 -
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Karn Dulake wrote:If you ban RMT wont half the meta alliances in nullsec collapse as there CEOs will have no reason to play anymore he he he never heard this one before
short answer: no long answer: no, we aren't babbys that need isk for rent |
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1356
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Posted - 2012.03.02 17:17:00 -
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Sasha Azala wrote: In the world of MMOs time does not normally equal money unless you count your recreational time as a loss of income. If you do then you need to think about what you're doing.
As long as you're comfortable in life money becomes less important anyway.
I do not agree, but i like your thinking.. |
baltec1
757
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Posted - 2012.03.02 17:45:00 -
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Thomas Abernathy wrote:Hmm, amusing. But if you wipe the Bots, will they still have enough people to keep the game running?
Sure. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2279
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Posted - 2012.03.02 20:05:00 -
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Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:Well in the game such as EVE, everything you get in game can be destroyed in game.. So generally it is just an shortcut .. sort of ..
I know my view is quite controversial.
You missed the point of my post entirely.
Players being allowed to buy accounts and other stuff off other players means that they're not getting those things through gameplay. That means less subscription time paid, which is bad for business. "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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