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Darius JOHNSON GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.05.06 17:09:00 - [61] Originally by: Killer Kelly Edited by: Killer Kelly on 06/05/2008 13:00:33 I was a goon once in another game (was never a SA member though, so not here). I must say that every GOON leader I have worked with has been highly intelligent and level-headed. Individual Goons may vary in thier level of stupidity, but so does every other member of any other alliance. Besides, EVE is a game of scams and chicanery, its not up to the game to protect you from your own naivety. I believe that the GOONS are a liberating force in this game. Otherwise, I would be sitting here looking around at all the seriousbusiness and roleplayers wondering why I'm here. Things like Velator blobs and "Little Bees" and NOA congo lines make me glad I'm in EVE. EDIT: Added a question. Should miners be encouraged to move away from the safety of high-sec through in-game persuasion? Firstly I'll thank you for your rather clearheaded statement. A statement which is rooted in actual facts from firsthand knowledge instead of the whisperings of past enemies, unwritten manifestos or third party opinion pieces. To answer your question... I honestly don't care where miners mine. They should simply be cognizant of their surroundings and understand that depending on where they are there are varying degrees of risk. The perceived sense of entitlement I'm detecting which states that "I mine therefore I should be invincible wherever I choose to do so" is absolutely ridiculous and absolutely against the very basic ideals of the game itself. Eve is a harsh mistress by design. http://www.griefgaming.com/images/darius_sig.jpg signature removed (max size 24000 bytes) - please email us (with the signature URL) if you want to know why - Pirlouit(mods@ccpgames.com)
Darius JOHNSON GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.05.06 17:11:00 - [62] Originally by: KeratinBoy Originally by: TeddyBr FTW Originally by: Darius JOHNSON And likewise there is nothing in the rules guaranteeing your safety. As a matter of fact, the rules specifically limit their safety. Until those rules are changed they are fair targets. "Playing the game they want to be playing" has to extend within the framework of the rules. Oh I never said that miners were completely safe in High Sec... nor that ganking miners was against the rules.... but good people take a look at Darius's terminology: "Miners are fair targets". By his very words Darius has shown that he is not an objective candidate in regards to miner's or industrialist's views. He is a PvP'er at heart and will NOT work to your benefit. Miner's and IndustrialistÆs. Look to other candidates to be fair an impartial towards your goals and needs in the game of Eve. Yeah, there are no miners or industrialists in Goonfleet or GoonSwarm. GF is not the largest corp in the game with many, many different people doing many, many different things. We all either PvP or play spacestation sim while chatting. Your sour grapes are willful and obtuse. Do you actually have a question now your opinions have been made evident? Yo, Darius: If you could make/advocate one change in the game, what would it be and why? This is a tough question. This is a placeholder to shelve it and come back. http://www.griefgaming.com/images/darius_sig.jpg signature removed (max size 24000 bytes) - please email us (with the signature URL) if you want to know why - Pirlouit(mods@ccpgames.com)
Darius JOHNSON GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.05.06 17:19:00 - [63] Originally by: TeddyBr FTW Originally by: KeratinBoy Your sour grapes are willful and obtuse. I represent the views of hundreds of miners and industrialists who were mad enough to trust and give 7 billion isk to a complete stranger to wardec Goons for how they were treated in this game. They have a right to be heard through me. Now maybe Darius only meant to gank the macro miners. And if that is the case now would be the time to make that apology and tell the Eve community how he would fight macro mining while leaving the honest high sec mining community alone? And how he would fix the insurance payout for high sec ganking to make it fair towards all. I apologize for nothing. You see... by hiring mercs you actually did the right thing. You protected your interests. You PLAYED THE GAME. I'm pleased with that result. The "honest highsec mining community" needs to adapt to the laws of eve and then it will only be the macro miners left as soft targets. The days of mining in complete safety as if you were entitled to it, completely oblivious to the rules of the harsh universe around you are over, unless concord sees fit to change their operating procedures... which I doubt will happen anytime soon. I could be wrong v0v. Regarding insurance? I'm not a big fan. I do think that just scrapping it outright however could have an extremely negative effect on the market. I will look forward to a dialogue, as a CSM rep or not, regarding the subject. CSM are not devs. Their role is not that of developer. Our role is that of representative. http://www.griefgaming.com/images/darius_sig.jpg signature removed (max size 24000 bytes) - please email us (with the signature URL) if you want to know why - Pirlouit(mods@ccpgames.com)
Darius JOHNSON GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.05.06 17:24:00 - [64] Originally by: Super Whopper Edited by: Super Whopper on 06/05/2008 13:40:11 I'd like to thank the Goons for another fantastic troll thread proving the small-mindedness of GS: http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=764987 I have decided I will not vote for you. Um... I didn't post the thread and it's not a troll. Thanks for proving the small mindedness of "I can Has Cheeseburger inc.", a two man alt corp. http://www.griefgaming.com/images/darius_sig.jpg signature removed (max size 24000 bytes) - please email us (with the signature URL) if you want to know why - Pirlouit(mods@ccpgames.com)
TeddyBr FTW Caldari TeddyBr's Revenge	Posted - 2008.05.06 17:25:00 - [65] Originally by: Darius JOHNSON Miners are fair targets. There. I said it. I'd have said it from the get go. I'm sure you meant in High Sec... so I'll leave it at that. We now know where you stand on ganking the miners issue. Please go here and fill us in on all those issues.
Darius JOHNSON GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.05.06 17:31:00 - [66] Originally by: Dramaticus Darius, As you know, no matter the size and space held by a 0.0 alliance, it is simply impossible to be completely independent from Empire or low-sec. The control towers, their modules and even some of the fuel for them are not able to be manufactured. Instead, they are provided by CCP via NPC sell orders. Even for something as mundane as moon mining and selling the materials locally to 0.0 producers, you are still forced to either import for yourself or rely on an importer for fuel. My question is, what are your feelings on both 0.0 and Empire dwellers be reliant on NPC sell orders for certain items, and just how independent do you believe that 0.0 alliances be allowed to be from Empire. I believe that we are heading in a direction where the market will truly be player controlled and believe that's a good thing overall. A free market without artificial restrictions will be amazing. Off of the top of my head, in a TRUE player driven economy, I can't think of a reason why I should be forced to go to empire for anything. If I can build a market in my regions why should I be punished or handicapped? From a roleplay perspective, who are the magical beings with the hidden secret power to manufacture pos's and why have we not kidnapped and tortured them for their secrets yet? It's quite silly, but understandably from a market perspective, these things need to be changed incrementally. This may very well be a part of the mandate of our new economist.
Goumindong Amarr Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.05.06 17:44:00 - [67] Edited by: Goumindong on 06/05/2008 17:44:43 Originally by: Darius JOHNSON I believe that we are heading in a direction where the market will truly be player controlled and believe that's a good thing overall. A free market without artificial restrictions will be amazing. Sorry to burst your bubble Darius, but this is impossible so long as its still a game. CCP has direct control of the money supply and material supply for all items in the game. Its impossible to be a free market without artificial restrictions because we will always be playing a game with arbitrary and artificial conditions. That isn't to say that there aren't things that can be improved upon[the ability to enact economic warfare, the ability to build everything in the game short of faction equipment etc], but it is to say we will always be playing in a world of fairly strict price controls and so the markets will not be "free". Vote Goumindong for CSM
Darius JOHNSON GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.05.06 17:47:00 - [68] Originally by: Narciss Sevar Darius, what are your views on smaller gang warfare and the application of that in 0.0 sovereignty wars? I think that the rumors of small gang warfare's demise are greatly exaggerated. We've seen at least two largish alliances now completely broken by it. The problem is one of risk vs. reward. Resources. The amount of resources available to a smaller gang-esque corporation in both people and isk is going to be less. There's a great vocal group on the eve-o forums at times that seems to want to insinuate that someone with fewer resources should have access to the same toys and benefits that someone with more should have and I disagree with that in principal. I think that philosophically, as game players we oftentimes blame the game for our own failures because it's easier to accept if it's someone else's fault. There are things wrong with eve. If any group of players however is unable to accomplish something then the harsh reality is that they were simply unable to sell enough people on the idea that it should be accomplished. Much like this election... I digress. Anyway my whole point is that small gang warfare even today has a wonderful application in 0.0 sovereignty wars. I just believe the application's been somewhat minimized depending on who you're fighting since the formula is changed and the combat is less dynamic. Interestingly enough the advent of cyno jammers has removed some of the dynamism and excitement from actual POS warfare. Now you know where the fleet has to be. Now you can camp it with titans and you can't lose. It's changed the focus of 0.0 warfare and helped to marginalize small gangs entirely. I don't believe this was the intended end result and I'm sure we'll see some changes at some point regarding this. http://www.griefgaming.com/images/darius_sig.jpg signature removed (max size 24000 bytes) - please email us (with the signature URL) if you want to know why - Pirlouit(mods@ccpgames.com)
Darius JOHNSON GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.05.06 17:51:00 - [69] Originally by: Goumindong Edited by: Goumindong on 06/05/2008 17:44:43 Originally by: Darius JOHNSON I believe that we are heading in a direction where the market will truly be player controlled and believe that's a good thing overall. A free market without artificial restrictions will be amazing. Sorry to burst your bubble Darius, but this is impossible so long as its still a game. CCP has direct control of the money supply and material supply for all items in the game. Its impossible to be a free market without artificial restrictions because we will always be playing a game with arbitrary and artificial conditions. That isn't to say that there aren't things that can be improved upon[the ability to enact economic warfare, the ability to build everything in the game short of faction equipment etc], but it is to say we will always be playing in a world of fairly strict price controls and so the markets will not be "free". Allow me to amend that then to "Free within reason". Of course in a controlled environment nothing can ever truly be free.
Jonzales	Posted - 2008.05.06 18:13:00 - [70] Originally by: Darius JOHNSON I apologize for nothing. You see... by hiring mercs you actually did the right thing. You protected your interests. You PLAYED THE GAME. I'm pleased with that result. In Empire, its not uncommon to be attacked/stolen from by a character who is in an NPC corp specifically to avoid people protecting their interests in that way (war, hired mercs, etc.) Do you think something could or should be done about this, or do you feel a 15 minute aggression timer is adequate?

m3rr	Posted - 2008.05.06 18:18:00 - [71] What is your viewpoint on titans? Now that alliances have 10 or more, they are quickly becoming a problem simply because they kill small gang pvp and they make large scale pvp mindless. Personally I think that they should be a mobile station with no doomsday while being a versatile fleet ship with lots of gang links. I know a lot of different people have different viewpoints, so if you could share yours it would be great.
Darius JOHNSON GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.05.06 18:19:00 - [72] Originally by: Jonzales Originally by: Darius JOHNSON I apologize for nothing. You see... by hiring mercs you actually did the right thing. You protected your interests. You PLAYED THE GAME. I'm pleased with that result. In Empire, its not uncommon to be attacked/stolen from by a character who is in an NPC corp specifically to avoid people protecting their interests in that way (war, hired mercs, etc.) Do you think something could or should be done about this, or do you feel a 15 minute aggression timer is adequate? I don't believe that the only time you're 100% safe is when you're docked. I do think that avoiding negative consequences via game mechanics is silly though and would like to see a discussion where we could perhaps theorycraft some other possible solutions via the CSM. I think the aggression timer itself is an imperfect solution to the problem, but we need to determine whether the playerbase as a whole really finds it to be a problem rather than assuming that it is one simply because it effects us personally. http://www.griefgaming.com/images/darius_sig.jpg signature removed (max size 24000 bytes) - please email us (with the signature URL) if you want to know why - Pirlouit(mods@ccpgames.com)
Darius JOHNSON GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.05.06 18:34:00 - [73] Edited by: Darius JOHNSON on 06/05/2008 18:35:11 Originally by: m3rr What is your viewpoint on titans? Now that alliances have 10 or more, they are quickly becoming a problem simply because they kill small gang pvp and they make large scale pvp mindless. Personally I think that they should be a mobile station with no doomsday while being a versatile fleet ship with lots of gang links. I know a lot of different people have different viewpoints, so if you could share yours it would be great. I'm not the biggest fan of titans as anything other than logistics ships personally. I believe they were poorly conceived and executed, no offense to the devs, but I am armed purely with hindsight and results. That being said, in order to remain competitive, I will deploy and use them in as large a quantity as I can to win until they are fixed. I was personally really intrigued when the original notion of a Titan as a logistical and strategic, non-offensive platform was originally floated. This was in their development stages iirc. Pending details it's a change I think could be of great benefit. Anyone thinking that it should be considered fun for a person to sit in one, giant, slow moving ship, push a single button and hang out while hundreds of people are blown up in slow motion needs their heads examined in my opinion. The concept of a mobile strategic attack platform though does have a great deal of promise in my opinion.
Jonzales	Posted - 2008.05.06 18:44:00 - [74] Originally by: Darius JOHNSON I don't believe that the only time you're 100% safe is when you're docked. I do think that avoiding negative consequences via game mechanics is silly though and would like to see a discussion where we could perhaps theorycraft some other possible solutions via the CSM. I think the aggression timer itself is an imperfect solution to the problem, but we need to determine whether the playerbase as a whole really finds it to be a problem rather than assuming that it is one simply because it effects us personally. Thanks. I guess I was asking more along the lines of game mechanics. Is that the intended purpose of NPC corps and aggression timers or would some new system that leaves the "victim" just as much chance to protect their interests as the aggressor has at avoiding potential consequences be more in line with how the game was designed to be played?
D'ceet Shadows of the Dead R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.05.06 18:49:00 - [75] i voted for Darius JOHNSON today.... why? Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. THATS why.
Darius JOHNSON GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.05.06 18:50:00 - [76] Originally by: Jonzales Originally by: Darius JOHNSON I don't believe that the only time you're 100% safe is when you're docked. I do think that avoiding negative consequences via game mechanics is silly though and would like to see a discussion where we could perhaps theorycraft some other possible solutions via the CSM. I think the aggression timer itself is an imperfect solution to the problem, but we need to determine whether the playerbase as a whole really finds it to be a problem rather than assuming that it is one simply because it effects us personally. Thanks. I guess I was asking more along the lines of game mechanics. Is that the intended purpose of NPC corps and aggression timers or would some new system that leaves the "victim" just as much chance to protect their interests as the aggressor has at avoiding potential consequences be more in line with how the game was designed to be played? I didn't develop the mechanic so I can only guess. My personal belief is that the use of NPC corps, to avoid negative consequence whether when posting or fighting, is not intended. The problem becomes when the intention of one mechanic overlaps another, which is what appears to be happening here. I believe that the INTENTION is for every action to have a consequence, so if some dude wants to steal your stuff, if you're prepared you SHOULD have the capability to respond within reason. Within reason doesn't mean magic ability to warp to him or anything like that. If he's in a fast ship and you're in a slow one, then you're out of luck. Find a fast friend.
TeddyBr FTW Caldari TeddyBr's Revenge	Posted - 2008.05.06 18:51:00 - [77] Please go HERE and fill us in on all those issues.
Darius JOHNSON GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.05.06 18:55:00 - [78] Originally by: TeddyBr FTW Please go HERE and fill us in on all those issues. Translation: Please spend an hour of your time filling out an extremely long report card using arbitrary numbers as a measurement for your pretend support on various issues the maker of the rather long report card finds it necessary to have arbitrary figures for whether or not the "issues" are even really clear. No thanks. I'd rather speak to people with words.
Jonzales	Posted - 2008.05.06 18:56:00 - [79] That's a good answer. Thanks Darius
TeddyBr FTW Caldari TeddyBr's Revenge	Posted - 2008.05.06 19:35:00 - [80] Originally by: Darius JOHNSON .. on various issues the maker of the rather long report card finds it necessary to have arbitrary figures for whether or not the "issues" are even really clear. This is a standard way of measuring people against each other on the various issues. Great... another reason for people not to vote for you.

Darius JOHNSON GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.05.06 19:41:00 - [81] Edited by: Darius JOHNSON on 06/05/2008 19:41:44 Originally by: TeddyBr FTW Originally by: Darius JOHNSON .. on various issues the maker of the rather long report card finds it necessary to have arbitrary figures for whether or not the "issues" are even really clear. This is a standard way of measuring people against each other on the various issues. Great... another reason for people not to vote for you. You should carefully prepare a list for your anti Darius campaign. It should include a very long list of arbitrary issues irrelevant to the topic at hand with made up numbers to measure effectiveness. Just do what you're doing already but put it in one place and add numbers! http://www.griefgaming.com/images/darius_sig.jpg signature removed (max size 24000 bytes) - please email us (with the signature URL) if you want to know why - Pirlouit(mods@ccpgames.com)
TeddyBr FTW Caldari TeddyBr's Revenge	Posted - 2008.05.06 19:50:00 - [82] Originally by: Darius JOHNSON You should carefully prepare a list for your anti Darius campaign. Actually your doing quite well at it yourself. (Not answering that list is tactically stupid) I was actually interested in seeing what you believed on those issues but it is clear you don't want to be measured against the others. Maybe it will show how you come up short.
Dramaticus GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.05.06 19:50:00 - [83] Darius that list looks considerably like a checkbox poll. You should be a space-Barack Obama and vote YES! to them all.
Darius JOHNSON GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.05.06 19:54:00 - [84] Originally by: TeddyBr FTW Originally by: Darius JOHNSON You should carefully prepare a list for your anti Darius campaign. Actually your doing quite well at it yourself. (Not answering that list is tactically stupid) I was actually interested in seeing what you believed on those issues but it is clear you don't want to be measured against the others. Maybe it will show how you come up short. It's a shame I didn't hire you on as a campaign consultant of any kind. I'll have you know I'm a rather svelte 5'6" and your personal attacks on my height will serve only to invigorate the furious anger of the righteous jihad.
TeddyBr FTW Caldari TeddyBr's Revenge	Posted - 2008.05.06 19:58:00 - [85] Originally by: Darius JOHNSON ... will serve only to invigorate the furious anger of the righteous jihad. Now THAT will certainly engender love and affection of the voters for your campagn.
Darius JOHNSON GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.05.06 20:07:00 - [86] Originally by: TeddyBr FTW Originally by: Darius JOHNSON ... will serve only to invigorate the furious anger of the righteous jihad. Now THAT will certainly engender love and affection of the voters for your campagn. I doubt a statement so obviously made in jest will have any more of a negative impact then your constant tedious trolling. http://www.griefgaming.com/images/darius_sig.jpg signature removed (max size 24000 bytes) - please email us (with the signature URL) if you want to know why - Pirlouit(mods@ccpgames.com)
duckmonster GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.05.06 20:52:00 - [87] Originally by: LaVista Vista Really, the concern I have, is that goonswarm candidates are gonna try and spoil CSM, due to the way they usually conduct themself. It might be totally unreasonable. I think GS has more respect for themself than that. But you never know. Its a reasonable concern I guess, but it also misunderstands Goons in eve. Have a stroll across to the SA forums. You might like it, because theres something there for everyone. Theres the 'comedy' subforums FYAD/BYOB/LF/YCS/GBS etc, but theres also little enclaves of deadly serious folk, hobbyists, music nuts, artists, and so on. Hell one of the most popular threads on SA is a flippin christian cartoonist who takes requests for artwork (yeah I know.) That diversity is pretty much the same within Goonfleet. We have some absolute raging *****s. Aint no denying it. We've also got really nice guys in there too. We even have a large number of non goons. Theres no opinions in Goonfleet that everyone holds, and its the strength of the team that Goonfleet simply provides a (reasonably) tolerant space for people to just go ape** in and do as they wish with the knowledge theres 5000 brothers that got their back. Most of goonswarms 'controversial' actions had legitimate internal dissent, and that dissent was both tolerated and encouraged. Finally remember that Darius is a new leader. He's not the same guy as the leader that oversaw the T20 dramas or any of that stuff. Mittens is long gone as GF leader. Not even sure he's still around ( I suppose he is somewhere ) The point I'm making is that whilst some have expressed a desire to damage the gameplay, most of us don't actually agree with that. And I'm fairly certain the leadership doesn't see 'breaking' Eve as a good thing. After all what hurts EVE hurts EVE goons. Darius is a good guy who's got the support and respect of both the Goons in the swarm, and the non goons, as well as our Allies. Don't let the factionalism sway here. There is going to be a majority of people on the council who are NOT goons, and if there was any chance of stupid shenanigans, the democracy of the body would see that it doesn't hold influence. Finally in regards to the "all you goons vote darius" thing. Its just party line voting. Part of any democracy, and nothing particularly interesting. -----------
Cosy Gallente Porandor Imperium Aeternum	Posted - 2008.05.06 22:26:00 - [88] TeddyBr FTW because of ppl like u i vote Darius TeddyBr FTW ppl like u have to be griefed all day long because u are annoying
Goumindong Amarr Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.05.06 22:45:00 - [89] Originally by: Darius JOHNSON Allow me to amend that then to "Free within reason". Of course in a controlled environment nothing can ever truly be free. Yea, thats fair.
Talkuth Rel Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.05.06 23:28:00 - [90] Ah, is it time for another round of "Whack-a-Goon" already? So much good material, where to start... Originally by: Darius JOHNSON One item of note... I don't tell people what not to or what not to say or how to play Eve. Goons are permitted to do whatever it is they please at any given time. Yes, of course, your oft-vaunted position that you have no control over the Goons whatsoever, and there is no unifying thought behind the alliance. You are the CEO of the largest alliance in the game, yet you conveniently abdicate all responsibility for those to whom you are in a position of leadership. If this is truly your position, how is anyone to believe that you will approach a position on the CSM with any greater sense of responsibility? Also, you don't speak for the Goons, you don't tell them to do anything and simply let anyone do whatever they want, yet as LaVista has shown, you seem to be perfectly fine with instructing them on how to vote, and you expect them to heed your words. So which is it, do they follow your orders or not? You can't have it both ways. Frankly, I find you to be rather self-contradicting, you present one face to your own alliance, and a completely different one to the rest of the EVE public. Oh, and of course, there's nothing at all incriminating in that thread, nothing except the little title at the top instructing your members to help "RIG THE VOTE"! Yeah, that's real great for building trust, isn't it? I know, you'll just claim it was another "joke." It's funny how many self-damning statements the Goons make that when they are confronted about them, the only defense they can offer is that it was a "joke." Maybe your sense of humor needs a tune-up, because you seem to be the only ones laughing. Originally by: Darius JOHNSON I think that if you take a look at our presentation from Fanfest last year, or Bane's Titan manifesto, you'll have an example of what happens when we commit ourselves to accomplishing things. Like I said earlier, though we may be a bit flippant at times I wouldn't mistake that for a lack of concern or desire to do hard work. I'm a pretty hard working dude, who wants to see a better game myself. I wouldn't have paid to go to Iceland for a videogame conference I didn't care about. I don't think I'd question that the Goons can accomplish things when motivated, or that you're hard-working. What I question is what goals both you personally and you as an alliance truly work for, what ideas motivate the Goons to action, and whether they're best for the game. Whether or not you can accomlish something is not the issue, whether or not whatever you accomplish will be a good thing is. You claim to care about the game, yet you as Goons continually work for it's destruction through efforts to make other players quit. I think it's safe to say your alliancemate was correct in saying that you play a completely different game from us. You have different goals and objectives, ones which are detrimental to the continuation of EVE. The fact that you can't see how contrary the Goon view is to the good of the game screams loudly about why you and yours should not be handed this type of power. Why should anyone believe that you won't use a position on the CSM to push your agenda, to try to make changes for the benefit of the Goons' goals? I'll leave the voters with that to chew on for now, but I'm sure I'll be back for more.

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