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Kyoko Otsada
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.02 14:06:00 -
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Hi , i'm searching for a personal loan , i'm a bit new to eve and i'm trying to put up some good margin trading business to make some isks . Only real problem is my low cash budget , that negates me to margin trade items with a better profitability . If someone is willing to loan me from 200 up to 800 Millions i will be then capable of trading sufficient quantities of quality materials to start seeing the profit flowing nicely.
I've got obviously no collateral to put in so , it would be some kind of "honor" loan.
I'm offering a 10% interests x month of loan duration , but i'm open to negotiation , and i suppose to be capable of giving back the loan in about 2-3 months with annexed interests.
Hope to receive some offer soon ,
Kyoko. |
Chevalleis
The Legendary Conquest Pandorum Invictus
107
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Posted - 2012.03.02 14:23:00 -
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The problem here is that you have no credibility whatsoever. Your char is 6 days old and this is your first forum post in MD or anywhere, which leads me to think that a) You are just an alt trying to make quick cash b) Even if you weren't trying to scam, your newness does not promise good for investors. What if you lose all your monetas in some margin trading scam?
Do you have alts, if you do, how long have they been playing? What is your current capital? |
Tekota
The Freighter Factory
175
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Posted - 2012.03.02 14:26:00 -
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"Honour loans" in Eve are tricky because the game actively encourages mistrust and backstabbing.
Bearing in mind the above, and I'm going to assume naivety is at play here rather than an attempt to scam, potential backers will have to weigh the risks of you doing a runner with their money.
Amongst the factors they'll be looking at to assess that risk are:
- Character age - in so far as "burning" an old char might not be desirable for acquiring X amount of ill gotten isk. Your char is 5 days old.
- Personality - a subjective guide based upon previous forum posting history, encounters in chat rooms, known actions etc. Your char has no forum history and due to the age I'm guessing very little chat room history for potential backers to go on; with no information to form an opinion the default position will be wary in the extreme.
- Proof of dealings and abilities - ie. can you do what you say you can do, and have you been doing what you say you've been doing. This can be demonstrated to some degree by investigating the Customisable API key to allow access to parts of your character dealings and proof of skills via services like EveBoard. I'm guessing that a 5 day old char is going to struggle to make best use of the markets having not really had the time to put training into skills like Accounting, Broker Relations, and the various order increasing skills.
- Openness about links to other chars - if this is an alt char, then say so and name names of chars that can be checked as per above.
None of this is to necessarily say your request is a scam attempt - but with the abscence of information it doesn't differentiate itself from a scam attempt and as such this would be a natural conclusion. Put it this way - if someone walked up to you on the street and requested a loan of ten pounds/dollars/euros would you agree? In real life you have a degree of legal protection, yet still I'm guessing you'd turn down their loan request. In Eve, none of those legal protections apply, and as mentioned above, scamming, stealing, backstabbing and shenanigans are a publicised feature of the game. |
Kyoko Otsada
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.02 15:09:00 -
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I understand all of yours doubts and i don't have any way to defend , cause i've got no Main to show or to put as reputation "collateral" , so i won't even try to.
I still hope someone is willing to give at least a try , if not i will try to start up from scratch as , i think , many has done.
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David Forge
Forge Enterprises
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Posted - 2012.03.02 15:46:00 -
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The first 100 million, even the first billion, will come relatively easy provided you put the effort in. You don't really need a loan at this stage in trading (and, as you can see from above, you are unlikely to get one). Train trading skills, get the basics down as to your trading strategy, and come back when you've made a bit of money and then try to expand your operations through a bond/loan. |
Kyoko Otsada
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.03 11:16:00 -
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Of course i will follow your hints sir , but seems i got one investor which is willing to have trust , so even better
If the loan concretize , and if he is willing to , i will post name and loan terms we have decided.
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Ariana DeSoto
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
50
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Posted - 2012.03.04 20:23:00 -
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How come I'm not surprised to see that your character is now biomassed? |
Chevalleis
The Legendary Conquest Pandorum Invictus
109
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Posted - 2012.03.06 11:31:00 -
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We need more of this. After a couple of hundred scams maybe ppl will start to use their brains? |
Rakshasa Taisab
Sane Industries Inc.
749
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Posted - 2012.03.06 12:23:00 -
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I am willing to provide a 800M loan, however the 10% interest from the first month needs to be paid in advance as a show of trust.
The ISK will be sent as soon as this precondition is met. 84,000 AUR ($420) spent on NeX store for Troll and Profit. |
Chevalleis
The Legendary Conquest Pandorum Invictus
109
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Posted - 2012.03.06 14:06:00 -
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^ is completely legit. |
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