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SugarDaddy
Caldari Comando Vermelho R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.09 22:06:00 -
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Lecrota, you are right
They came they saw they conquered us......NOT
Actually its amazing how every other week smashkill get wftbbqed in geminate by "insert random alliance name" and the "insert random alliance name" come to caod and make a kl ration topic.
The truth is few ppl have the muscle or the guts to TRY to remove us from our space and you guys are not among em.
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lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2008.05.09 22:11:00 -
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Originally by: SugarDaddy
The truth is few ppl have the muscle or the guts to TRY to remove us from our space and you guys are not among em.
Actually the truth is that most high spec pvp corps could not care less about holding or taking space but it gives ppl like you a reason to post "come and take our space if you think your hard enough" morale boost postings after getting owned for a few weeks buy them.
PS: RK suck at pvp. |
zykerx
Pegasus Mining and Securities R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.09 22:15:00 -
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Originally by: ghost st
Originally by: zykerx bragging about stast vs smashkill is so 2007
every month there a new corp that cals themself uber pvpers while ganking solo players, usaly not gooing much furter then bwf so they can runn back to empire fast
mist the whole be thingh so cant coment much on that but seems is yust like the others
lol, so you just admitted the only thing you can do is blob. OMG they wont attack our blobz!!!!, cheaterz!
BE are only in it for kills and lulz.
wow stupid noob you are, i never mentioned a blob
it yust that when we come with even numbers or even close to even most people wont engage and or runn away or cloak and wait for a 5-1 advantadge .
"MY COMMENTS IN NO WAY REFLECT MY CORP OR ALLIANCE"
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SugarDaddy
Caldari Comando Vermelho R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.09 22:19:00 -
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Originally by: lecrotta
Originally by: SugarDaddy
The truth is few ppl have the muscle or the guts to TRY to remove us from our space and you guys are not among em.
Actually the truth is that most high spec pvp corps could not care less about holding or taking space but it gives ppl like you a reason to post "come and take our space if you think your hard enough" morale boost postings after getting owned for a few weeks buy them.
oh yeah and cloaking ships or nano*****s are certainly amoung those uber pvp corps...
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King Hopy
Beasts of Burden R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.09 22:23:00 -
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Originally by: lecrotta
Originally by: FinrodFelagund
Originally by: BLOOD THIRSTY I am going to "TRY" to give a balanced reply to this thread, and some observations I have seen.
And for the record I doubt BE engages anyone that attacks them in 20 man blob format.
http://smack.griefwatch.net/?p=engagement&kill=17507 = 8 BE (4BS) vs 18....
http://smack.griefwatch.net/?p=engagement&kill=17393 = 4 BE (1BS) vs 11.....
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=712677 = 8 BE (4BS) vs 40 inc capital support and a titan.....
Now it would have taken a few warp out and warpins (ie; The not sitting still and getting popped like a moron tactic non morons use) but these clearly show a more than willingness to fight while outnumbered.
First engagement, over an hour. Second around half an hour. Now check the kill's on the first engagement, wow how come they are so far apart ? Because it wasn't a single group fighting them?
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Faekurias
Cash Money Brothers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.09 22:28:00 -
[336]
I thought this was a Solar poast, I was wrong. And good that, Solar <3 Sig locked, abuse of use - for more information mail [email protected] |
lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2008.05.09 22:59:00 -
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Edited by: lecrotta on 09/05/2008 23:04:55
Originally by: King Hopy
Originally by: lecrotta
http://smack.griefwatch.net/?p=engagement&kill=17507 = 8 BE (4BS) vs 18....
http://smack.griefwatch.net/?p=engagement&kill=17393 = 4 BE (1BS) vs 11.....
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=712677 = 8 BE (4BS) vs 40 inc capital support and a titan.....
Now it would have taken a few warp out and warpins (ie; The not sitting still and getting popped like a moron tactic non morons use) but these clearly show a more than willingness to fight while outnumbered.
First engagement, over an hour. Second around half an hour. Now check the kill's on the first engagement, wow how come they are so far apart ? Because it wasn't a single group fighting them?
Erm ok bud i know you guys just blob and sit there until the guys with the most or only ships left wins but ppl who have even a modicum of skill actually warp in and out to avoid getting popped especially if they are heavily outnumbered.
These are called "basic gang tactics" so i understand if you are unfamiliar with them......
PS: RK suck at pvp. |
BLOOD THIRSTY
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.05.09 23:27:00 -
[338]
Burning EvE
Check out the last fight in this vid, as far as I know it was from this campaign. Also BE is known to fly Navy Megas Navy Ravens Machariels Rattlesnakes Nightmares
That is out of the ordinary as far as know. Meh anyway let this thread die, watch his vid and decide for yourselves. No more need for everyone to flame each other. To each their own all are entitled to what they believe is right and best.
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USN CVN72
Caldari Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.10 01:03:00 -
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Edited by: USN CVN72 on 10/05/2008 01:03:17 as i said many times Burn Eden is old news. Who gives a crap we all know they decided to start this thread because they have not gotten the attention they desire and they needed to pat themselves on the back. now lets get back to playing the game or im going to puke into the wind.
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SSgt Sniper
Gallente MAIDS
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Posted - 2008.05.10 01:06:00 -
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Originally by: SATAN
Originally by: Tyremis hahahaha i wont be baited by a guy that flys a Raven sry dude try harder
You seem to have a selective loss posting attitude, here let me help you a bit.
http://www.battleclinic.com/eve_online/pk/view/player-Tyremis-kills.html
Here is your ENTIRE eve life record. And it seems like the majority of your kills are in fleet battles where as we all know competence is surpassed by blind allegiance.
111 kills 44 losses
Please crawl back under the rock you came from.
Spoken like a man who warps his raven off when faced by people in ships that are SUPPOSED to cloak.
I've never seen a isk farmer run away that fast. ------- CEO of Maids. No I didn't pick the name. I've grown rather fond of it though.
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lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2008.05.10 01:59:00 -
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Originally by: USN CVN72
as i said many times Burn Eden is old news. Who gives a crap we all know they decided to start this thread because they have not gotten the attention they desire and they needed to pat themselves on the back. now lets get back to playing the game or im going to puke into the wind.
You mean you actually stopped playing the game just to post here?.
PS: RK & bruce suck at pvp. |
USN CVN72
Caldari Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.10 02:29:00 -
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Originally by: lecrotta
Originally by: USN CVN72
as i said many times Burn Eden is old news. Who gives a crap we all know they decided to start this thread because they have not gotten the attention they desire and they needed to pat themselves on the back. now lets get back to playing the game or im going to puke into the wind.
You mean you actually stopped playing the game just to post here?.
yes sir i did because my multitasking ability is not as uber as you.
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Angor
BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2008.05.10 04:03:00 -
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Edited by: Angor on 10/05/2008 04:03:04 lol nearly 13 pages my god wtf. double pages than ur cap fight r@pe _______________________________ [ 2007.06.07 21:07:22 ] FrankyWave > ransom me guys I am joining XElas !!! |
Tyremis
Spartan Industrial Manufacturing SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.10 04:13:00 -
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^^ your right it should be half that as all your responses should be cloaked.
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Darineah Charach
Minmatar Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.10 11:15:00 -
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I agree, this thread should die...but it's like the game i just gotta, you know?
Anyway, i see this argument really as about playstyles more than anything. I am a member of a 0.0 space holding alliance and people may not like that part of the game but i do, that's why i'm there, and i daresay the several thousand people in our collective alliances feel the same way. That's fine, we're allowed to. Its a game and people can play it any way they like.
BE like to play the game their way, which is also fine. It's a game, they can play it any way they like.
The problem arises as i see it when we get judged by the other guys standard. Judging by BE's standards, we got wtfbbq'd i won't deny that. By our standards however it's a completely different story.
The simple reason none of our leading FC's or even the majority of the FVCKAS PVP force didn't respond is...BE just wasn't a threat.
A few years ago, when i started playing this game, a BE gatecamp could legitimately bring an alliance to it's knees. Cap's were rare, JB's and jump freighters didn't exist so entry pipes were vital. Nowadays, anything important just gets jumped in so the pipes have lost their importance. Nowadays, if you want to threaten a space holding alliance, you have to threaten it's space, not it's pilots. And BE don't do that, they've stated many times they don't want to play that way. That's fine, but accept the fact that really, in the modern game, it makes you irrelevant.
Other organisations, just like you, have seen the way the games eveolved and in a desire to remain relevant, have adapted accordingly.
This post isn't designed to be smacky (not completely anyway :P), just to point out to you that if you want to 'hurt us' you have to adapt as well.
Otherwise, all these posts you make about how BRUCE suck or SMASHKILL suck, is just a rather sad attempt to stay relevant in a game that's left you behind.
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Boxing Kangaroo
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Trask Kilraen
The Older Gamers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.10 12:15:00 -
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"The simple reason none of our leading FC's or even the majority of the FVCKAS PVP force didn't respond is...BE just wasn't a threat. "
Bingo.... most of the PVPers just don'tcare about BE camping some random gate in cloakers... I mean, who gives a ....
BE wants to get lolz poppin carebears in cloakers and coming to CAOD yelling "PWNed!", then be my guest. But it's a bit sad TBQFH
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posteroid
im right your wrong
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Posted - 2008.05.10 12:21:00 -
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Edited by: posteroid on 10/05/2008 12:22:33
It is quite interesting how a carebear with his feelings hurt cos of this thread and the recent BE campaign responds, i personally like the "irrelevant" and "modern game" comments as they have just the hint of anger and a obvious need to inflict retribution while dismissing the obvious injury the BE campaign and this thread has had on your ego's.
No small squad pvp corp or alliance has the ability to truly financially hurt a huge nap fest of alliances like RK/atlas and co (unless you catch a muppet moving said alliances BPO's or such), only another huge nap fest has the ability to do that by taking away their space, BE/TI and all of eve understand this. Now this has been true since the first multi thousand player alliance/nap was formed and has not changed in years so the comments like "modern game" and "remaining relevant" not only have no basis in fact but are also an amusing and unoriginal attempt to salvage a modicum of pride.
BE/TI is partly about causing ppl grief, making isk from loot but mostly about being successful at what we do, it is a gathering of like minded perfectionists who consider a loss of a ship in 0.0 unacceptable no matter the reason or odds. On a individual level we are highly successful at these goals and comments made by our victims claiming not to care about losses have been bandied about eve since the beginning of the game and will probably continue until the final hour of eves existence and give ppl plenty of lulz until then.
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culdor
Demonic Retribution Un-Natural Selection
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Posted - 2008.05.10 12:46:00 -
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lol nice stats.. but Im amazed to see no-cap kills at all.. Knowing these guys you def. should have popped carrier or 2
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Darineah Charach
Minmatar Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.10 13:04:00 -
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Edited by: Darineah Charach on 10/05/2008 13:05:37
Originally by: posteroid Edited by: posteroid on 10/05/2008 12:22:33
It is quite interesting how a carebear with his feelings hurt cos of this thread and the recent BE campaign responds, i personally like the "irrelevant" and "modern game" comments as they have just the hint of anger and a obvious need to inflict retribution while dismissing the obvious injury the BE campaign and this thread has had on your ego's.
Don't rat, mine or even NPC much so not much of a carebear personally. As for feelings hurt, nope not that either. Retribution? For what? You didn't kill me. Before you make the claim that you killed my alt...My sec status won't let me into Jita etc so i have an alt that does that for me. His names Romeril Tanassian, didn't kill him either. In fact, if you're so fond of KB proof, look me up on yours. See for yourself.
No small squad pvp corp or alliance has the ability to truly financially hurt a huge nap fest of alliances like RK/atlas and co (unless you catch a muppet moving said alliances BPO's or such), only another huge nap fest has the ability to do that by taking away their space, BE/TI and all of eve understand this. Now this has been true since the first multi thousand player alliance/nap was formed and has not changed in years so the comments like "modern game" and "remaining relevant" not only have no basis in fact but are also an amusing and unoriginal attempt to salvage a modicum of pride.
Actually, you're wrong there. Like i said there are organisations out there who operate on a relatively small scale and are still able to make larger forces stand up and take notice. BE just isn't one of them, hell if you can't even make SMASH care (aside from the rest) that's gotta be proof in itself doesn't it?
BE/TI is partly about causing ppl grief, making isk from loot but mostly about being successful at what we do, it is a gathering of like minded perfectionists who consider a loss of a ship in 0.0 unacceptable no matter the reason or odds. On a individual level we are highly successful at these goals and comments made by our victims claiming not to care about losses have been bandied about eve since the beginning of the game and will probably continue until the final hour of eves existence and give ppl plenty of lulz until then.
Not arguing with any of that, in fact i said somewhere that i agree BE are extremely good at what they do. My point was simply that bragging about how awesome you are when you don't even register with the majority of the alliances.. is kinda sad.
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Boxing Kangaroo
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posteroid
im right your wrong
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Posted - 2008.05.10 13:39:00 -
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WOW defensive much??.
Originally by: Darineah Charach
Don't rat, mine or even NPC much so not much of a carebear personally. As for feelings hurt, nope not that either. Retribution? For what? You didn't kill me. Before you make the claim that you killed my alt...My sec status won't let me into Jita etc so i have an alt that does that for me. His names Romeril Tanassian, didn't kill him either. In fact, if you're so fond of KB proof, look me up on yours. See for yourself.
And yet you felt the need to post "WE dont care about those losses anyway" and "you do not matter to us or eve anymore" comments.
Originally by: Darineah Charach
Like i said there are organisations out there who operate on a relatively small scale and are still able to make larger forces stand up and take notice. BE just isn't one of them, hell if you can't even make SMASH care (aside from the rest) that's gotta be proof in itself doesn't it? My point was simply that bragging about how awesome you are when you don't even register with the majority of the alliances.. is kinda sad.
Id sure love to know who these other organization's are that run 5-10 man gangs and cause you huge nap fest boys such grief can you please reveal to us there names and tell us how they manage to hurt you so much with only 5 or so ppl.
And yes i can see 12 pages of smash and others telling us that they do not care about the losses over and over and over and over 12 full pages of "protesting too much me thinks".
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Angor
BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2008.05.10 13:49:00 -
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Originally by: culdor lol nice stats.. but Im amazed to see no-cap kills at all.. Knowing these guys you def. should have popped carrier or 2
Yeah we nearly did a few suicidal carriers and 1 mental dread pilot all warped to gates we were on at seperate occasions, unfortunatly with only 2-3 bs's we didnt have the DPS to kill them before ppl would arive to save them. We did have the dread pilot held on a gate for 40 minutes while he sat there in siege tanking us, firing siege missiles at our tacklers lol, ebay toon or what? _______________________________ [ 2007.06.07 21:07:22 ] FrankyWave > ransom me guys I am joining XElas !!! |
Darineah Charach
Minmatar Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.10 13:50:00 -
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Can we leave out the 'over 12 full pages of "protesting too much me thinks".' argument? Cos it goes both ways, there's also 12 odd pages of BE and friends protesting about how awesome they are.
Also, don't get pedantic in your arguments. Yes i said 'we' don't care. My response of 'you didn't kill me' was in reply to you talking about me specifically. I'm certain the guys who lost their ships were plenty annoyed. But the alliances as a whole...not so much.
My point is a simple one. I repeat, BE are extremely good at what they do but the days where their activities warrented a CAOD post and actually made a difference to the organisations they took on, are gone.
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Boxing Kangaroo
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Nizar
Foundation R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.10 14:01:00 -
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Originally by: posteroid And yes i can see 12 pages of smash and others telling us that they do not care about the losses over and over and over and over 12 full pages of "protesting too much me thinks".
hey i protest just to keep this thread alive. its another nice dTja vu BWF thread made by mediocre corp who tries to convince others that with their little contracts they still have some kind of impact on 0.0 life. MC thought the same and... ohh oops
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posteroid
im right your wrong
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Posted - 2008.05.10 14:02:00 -
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Originally by: Darineah Charach
Can we leave out the 'over 12 full pages of "protesting too much me thinks".' argument? Cos it goes both ways, there's also 12 odd pages of BE and friends protesting about how awesome they are.
Thats because we are awesome and you guys are protesting way to much for ppl who do not care.
Originally by: Darineah Charach
Also, don't get pedantic in your arguments. Yes i said 'we' don't care. My response of 'you didn't kill me' was in reply to you talking about me specifically. I'm certain the guys who lost their ships were plenty annoyed. But the alliances as a whole...not so much.
A alliance is made up of individuals and not only that must have a level of pride not only on the whole but on a individual level as well and it is obviously smarting over the spanking we gave "you" (as in your alliance as a hole) or ppl not directly involved like yourself would not be posting such convoluted denials and veiled insults.
Originally by: Darineah Charach
My point is a simple one. I repeat, BE are extremely good at what they do but the days where their activities warrented a CAOD post and actually made a difference to the organisations they took on, are gone.
Aside from the occasional high value bpo gank BE have the same effect now as they always have and tbh the whiners and complainers like you who say we do not matter have always said the same thing every time a thread is posted with the standard "we still own our space", "those losses are nothing measured against our size" blah blah blah blah rinse and repeat.
PS: So your not gonna tell us the names of these uber organizations that rock your world with only 5 or so ships then?.
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Nizar
Foundation R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.10 14:09:00 -
[355]
Originally by: Riddal Please poast here we need 6 more pages to be better than the Pendulum poast
/signed
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Darineah Charach
Minmatar Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.10 14:21:00 -
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Originally by: posteroid
Thats because we are awesome and you guys are protesting way to much for ppl who do not care.
My bad, came to CAOD looking for a rational discussion...yep i'm an idiot.
A alliance is made up of individuals and not only that must have a level of pride not only on the whole but on a individual level as well and it is obviously smarting over the spanking we gave "you" (as in your alliance as a hole[:D ) or ppl not directly involved like yourself would not be posting such convoluted denials and veiled insults.
Maybe i wasn't clear enough. My discussion here has nothing to do with your activities in Geminate. I was simply commenting that it doesn't make any difference. If you have an argument that you are in fact relevant and we 'as in an alliance as a hole *sic*' have suffered from your depredations then please put it forward.
Aside from the occasional high value bpo gank BE have the same effect now as they always have and tbh the whiners and complainers like you who say we do not matter have always said the same thing every time a thread is posted with the standard "we still own our space", "those losses are nothing measured against our size" blah blah blah blah rinse and repeat.
Haven't got the message yet? This isn't entirely true either, like i said before BE gatecamps used to have a substantial impact on an alliances abilities to operate, they just don't anymore.
PS: So your not gonna tell us the names of these uber organizations that rock your world with only 5 or so ships then?.
There aren't any, like i said they evolved. My point isn't that other people do what you do better, it's that other people HAVE in the past done what you do, but to stay relevant they adapted and grew.
PL is a possible great example. To the best of my knowledge they don't involve themselves in 'blob' warfare but if they come into your space you better sit up and take notice. Prior to that, they operated on a much smaller scale.
Like i said i could be wrong, wouldn't be the first time, but i'm sure there are others as well. You guys are still doing the same thing you did years ago and expecting the same result. If you want people to fear you then attack them where it hurts. If you don't then cool keep doing what you're doing. Just don't brag about it, it cheapens you.
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Boxing Kangaroo
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Darineah Charach
Minmatar Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.10 14:22:00 -
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Originally by: Riddal Please poast here we need 6 more pages to be better than the Pendulum poast
Workin on it :p
Saturday night and i'm at work so i can't play. That's when i become a forum *****!
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Boxing Kangaroo
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Sevdah
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2008.05.10 14:29:00 -
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Originally by: Shin Ra ...Guys, you are terrible - sort it out.
I think BE pilots should read The Daily Fix first before posting.
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posteroid
im right your wrong
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Posted - 2008.05.10 14:55:00 -
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Edited by: posteroid on 10/05/2008 15:00:19
Originally by: Darineah Charach
There aren't any, like i said they evolved. My point isn't that other people do what you do better, it's that other people HAVE in the past done what you do, but to stay relevant they adapted and grew.
They just lowered their standards and recruited enough ppl to be able to blob that as far as im concerned in devolving as any fights they get into or effect they have on others involves sheer numbers not skill.
Originally by: Darineah Charach
PL is a possible great example. To the best of my knowledge they don't involve themselves in 'blob' warfare but if they come into your space you better sit up and take notice. Prior to that, they operated on a much smaller scale.
While PL have some good pvpers id hardly call napping and jumping on the goon bandwaggon something to be proud of, but again the only reason you mention PL is due to sheer numbers and nothing else. All your comments are from seeing through the eyes of a blobber with no thought to actually having pride in individual and teamwork piloting skills.
Here is the truth bud, i like a lot of others in BE have been in huge napped up alliances and fought in massive fleet ops and even led and planned them on more occasions than i can easily count, and we finally got sick of it.
Now in our time in all those huge alliances if a group of 5-10 pilots had hung around our space at will popping well over 500 ships and over 700 if you include pods and losing hardly any we would have been royally miffed.
Now im sure ppl in our old alliances would have protested vehemently on these very forums that it was not a lot of isk in the grand scheme of things and that we still hold our space and made the exact same claims that you and every other alliance does when it gets owned in its own space. But the truth is that everybody including those who lost not a single ship to the invaders would be enormously annoyed at such a huge and embarrassing k/d ratio in our own space.
Now you can keep bleating on and claiming otherwise and even point out that isk wise we are not very important to the big picture, but the truth is we came into your home bent you over and then left with barely a scratch and that is a hit to anybody with a modicum of self respects ego deny it all you like.
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posteroid
im right your wrong
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Posted - 2008.05.10 14:58:00 -
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Originally by: Sevdah
Originally by: Shin Ra ...Guys, you are terrible - sort it out.
I think BE pilots should read The Daily Fix first before posting.
Why most ppl remember the goons propaganda: "We do not care about (insert things they sucked at)", although i had no idea RK had sunk so far tbh.....
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