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Rokk Steady
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.03.04 07:34:00 -
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thinking of taking this guy caldari my question is what caldari ships are good for solo/ small gang pvp and why? |
Cedo Nulli
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.03.04 07:36:00 -
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Tengu ... okthxbye. |
Liang Nuren
Parsec Flux
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Posted - 2012.03.04 07:45:00 -
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I like the Harpy! :)
-Liang Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com PVP Videos: http://vimeo.com/user9887127 Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
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To mare
Advanced Technology
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Posted - 2012.03.04 07:54:00 -
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no one said drake yet? |
Ahrieman
Parsec Flux
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Posted - 2012.03.04 11:25:00 -
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Don't forget the Hawk, Hookbill, Raptor and Crow. All work well soloing if you enjoy flying frigs. Sig tanking is the new black |
Darthewok
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.04 11:37:00 -
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Best of their classes: Harpy(active tank/DPS combo) Drake(DPS/tank) Falcon(ECM rules) Tengu(tank/buffer, missile range).
The rest: Must as well cross-train to fly another race's ships. CAVEAT RICHARDUS VOLVERE - YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0 |
Korg Tronix
Heretic Army Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2012.03.04 11:54:00 -
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Ahrieman wrote:Don't forget the Hawk, Hookbill, Raptor and Crow. All work well soloing if you enjoy flying frigs.
You missed the buzzard and ferox Evil: If I were creating the world I wouldn't mess about with butterflies and daffodils. I would have started with lasers, eight o'clock, Day One! [zaps one of his minions accidentally, minion screams] http://themabinogion.blogspot.com/ |
Annie Anomie
Shadows Of The Federation Drunk 'n' Disorderly
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Posted - 2012.03.04 12:34:00 -
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Merlin, Blaster corm is viable, Crapacal (anti-frig with AMLs) Blarpy, Drake Tengu |
Calethria
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.04 13:27:00 -
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wow... i just saw this post. It fits my same question perfectly...
i *thought* that Caldari ships are poor for PVP because they are fat and do little DPS.
Or is it a case of "train for the damn tengu, and shut the hell up!"
It's gonna take me 40 days to train the tengu! not to mention any additional training needed for the parts of the ship! |
Liam Mirren
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Posted - 2012.03.04 18:16:00 -
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Merlin, kestrel, hookbil, moa, ferox, drake, harpy, gila. They're all fine for solo pvp.
Merlin/harpy are great ships whichever way you look at them, kestrel and Hookbil are frigate killers, moa can do fine in a "lol I'm a stupid moa, please attack me", same for the ferox.Drake and gila are obvious. Excellence is not a skill, it's an attitude.
My guides: http://mirren.freeforums.org |
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Liang Nuren
Parsec Flux
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Posted - 2012.03.04 18:32:00 -
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The Manticore makes a pretty good solo PVP ship too - and its also best in class. Surprised nobody's mentioned it yet.
-Liang Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com PVP Videos: http://vimeo.com/user9887127 Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
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Liam Mirren
305
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Posted - 2012.03.04 19:29:00 -
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Solo bombers are very situational, much more so than other ships. So while it can be GOOD it can also be horribly bad, thus it doesn't make my list :P Excellence is not a skill, it's an attitude.
My guides: http://mirren.freeforums.org |
Drew Solaert
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.04 19:52:00 -
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Blackbird for small gang work. I love mine, Dirt cheap and a royal pain in the ass. |
Liang Nuren
Parsec Flux
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Posted - 2012.03.04 21:07:00 -
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Liam Mirren wrote:Solo bombers are very situational, much more so than other ships. So while it can be GOOD it can also be horribly bad, thus it doesn't make my list :P
Its true, you have terrible luck against frigates and destroyers, but a fight against a BC or BS is likely to go your way.
Eventually.
-Liang Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com PVP Videos: http://vimeo.com/user9887127 Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
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Super Chair
Project Cerberus Caldari State Capturing
164
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Posted - 2012.03.04 21:56:00 -
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150mm rail corms are pretty beast
http://state.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12501215
Also, Rokh is great ship (although more for small gang so you can get friends to tackle for you, 40km blaster range is win)
Rook is a great ship, but goodluck getting people to fight you
Navy Caracal is pretty good at brawling against frigs (and if you HML fit it, you can go against cruisers, just avoid cynabals/SFIs)
Hookbill is probably one of the best close range fighters for frigs
Moa is good ship too, you can get a 27k EHP tank with 400+ dps blasterfit
Caracal is a cheaper navy caracal good for killing frigs
Drake is win
Tengu is even more win
I wouldn't advise a naga for solo work and just get a talos instead once you have tech 2 large blasters
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2012.03.05 13:50:00 -
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Rook can be pretty nice, especially in partnership with some up-close-and-personal type ship to partner with, it's just that getting people to engage can be a problem Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
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Fon Revedhort
Monks of War DarkSide.
609
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Posted - 2012.03.05 14:24:00 -
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Nighthawk worked wonders for me back in 2009 Fon Revedhort for CSM 7 |
Fleet Warpsujarento
State Protectorate Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.05 16:10:00 -
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-Drake, Tengu, and Hookbill are the only Caldari ships that are indisputably at the top of their class. -Blackbird, Falcon and Rook can be powerful in small gang, but since the introduction of the Oracle and the Tornado they have become rather squishy and vulnerable, especially in larger gangs. -Naga and Cormorant are best at the questionably useful role of extreme range sniping. -Merlin, Harpy, Hawk are all used pretty commonly for solo stuff.
The rest are either outclasses by other races' ships or fill a role that is not very useful. |
Gypsio III
Dirty Filthy Perverts
210
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Posted - 2012.03.05 17:14:00 -
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Fleet Warpsujarento wrote:-Naga and Cormorant are best at the questionably useful role of extreme range sniping.
It's the most damaging t3 beyond about 70 km, apart from a bit around 170-ish km where Aurora comes in. At around 100 km, the other t3s don't come close in raw DPS, given comparable fits. |
Fleet Warpsujarento
State Protectorate Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.05 17:50:00 -
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But how useful is that role in practice, in small gang PvP? |
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RougeOperator
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
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Posted - 2012.03.05 17:56:00 -
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Fleet Warpsujarento wrote:But how useful is that role in practice, in small gang PvP?
The Naga?
Very useful. My first hand accounts of using all the new BCs.
Hybrid and Assault ship rebalance made lots of caldari ships that were bad Good. I have had lots of good results in the Moa and Ferox as blaster ships. That can hit out to 20+km with blasters with null.
The OPT range bonus on their blaster boats with the change to Null is very good. OPT range bonus is not just for rails anymore. |
RougeOperator
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
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Posted - 2012.03.05 19:16:00 -
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Double post. |
Fleet Warpsujarento
State Protectorate Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.05 19:40:00 -
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Quote:The Naga?
Very useful. My first hand accounts of using all the new BCs.
What exactly do you mean by this?
Because as far as I can tell the other T3s are markedly better when fitted to DPS up to 70km, and only after that does the Naga have any advantages. The problem with this being that any range beyond this is mostly unhelpful for small gang purposes. |
RougeOperator
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
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Posted - 2012.03.05 21:05:00 -
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Fleet Warpsujarento wrote:Quote:The Naga?
Very useful. My first hand accounts of using all the new BCs. What exactly do you mean by this? Because as far as I can tell the other T3s are markedly better when fitted to DPS up to 70km, and only after that does the Naga have any advantages. The problem with this being that any range beyond this is mostly unhelpful for small gang purposes.
You are going to have to give examples of these fits you are talking about.
Talos and Naga have the same damage bonus. But a naga lets me land at 100 or more away and still have the same DPS as that talos at that range. While my mates have it pinned down.
I live and die in low sec. Not EFT. |
The Vastator
Posthuman Society
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Posted - 2012.03.05 21:40:00 -
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I'll add something just for the sake of adding something. The obvious HML drake and blaster...erhmm autocannon ferox are decent fleet ships. Other ships include merlin and it's variants, EEE SHEE EMMM and co. |
Gypsio III
Dirty Filthy Perverts
210
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Posted - 2012.03.05 22:43:00 -
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Fleet Warpsujarento wrote:But how useful is that role in practice, in small gang PvP?
Considering that 70 km is the edge of Drake HM spam range, quite useful, I believe. |
RougeOperator
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
164
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Posted - 2012.03.06 02:59:00 -
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The Vastator wrote:I'll add something just for the sake of adding something. The obvious HML drake and blaster...erhmm autocannon ferox are decent fleet ships. Other ships include merlin and it's variants, EEE SHEE EMMM and co .
A null using boaster ferox has great range now. AC ferox still has a place but the blaster Dps with null range bonus is solid and you don't need to cross train. |
Tazarak theDeceiver
Southern Cross Knights Order Of The Unforgiving
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Posted - 2012.03.06 03:11:00 -
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both the recons are great fun |
Rokk Steady
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.03.06 04:19:00 -
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Tazarak theDeceiver wrote:both the recons are great fun
I have some ideas to make the rook solid for solo picky hunting.. but does anyone have any good fits for the falcon and rook? |
Gibbo3771
AQUILA INC 0ccupational Hazzard
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Posted - 2012.03.06 11:55:00 -
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May as well just a fly a drake/tengu like everyone else.
All your going to fight against are those and canes, so may as well choose one tht can actually fight. Everytime you dont like my comments/posts the terrorists win and your a disgrace to your country. |
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