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cRaNbErRy MuFfInMaN
mUfFiN fAcToRy Sex Panthers
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Posted - 2008.05.12 17:03:00 -
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Edited by: cRaNbErRy MuFfInMaN on 12/05/2008 17:03:52 BTW dont move this as a 4yr pitate and the many friends we have in here is why we posted here. I believe we have that right.
As one of the older pirate corps we have been apart of crime and punishment for many years. Although the newer people to eve dont know who we are till we kill them alot of our friends reside here.
I regret to inform you my corp has been playing RF online for 2 weeks now as I have been hacked.
Someone hacked me and put 10 dreads and 5 of my carriers into the corp hanger and about 10 bill in moduals as well then gave corp rights to everyone then joined an alt to my corp and took everything.
CCP is working hard on helping me out but for past 5 days saying hello? in peition doesnt look good with no response.
Lucky they where able to get back tons of my liquid isk. However i need the support of the eve community we have been with for 4yrs to pull threw this.
If ships and mods arnt able to be returned most likely see the death of one of the oldest and long lasting pirate corps in eve.
With less and less pirates this means less people for antipirates to hunt and have fun fighting. Yes where hates but as you know there are only about 8 pirate groups left 7 if factory dies after 4yrs of being in eve.
So i am here to ask for your support in encouraging the speed of the help from ccp.
Thy, cRaNbErRy MuFfInMaN
Join The Muffin Factory
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Kage Toshimado
Kage Clan
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Posted - 2008.05.12 17:09:00 -
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I flew with you for a little while in Vecamia. Great bunch of guys. Hope you get all your stuff back and they find out who hacked into your corp. Then ban his ass 4 life.
Good luck muffins.
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Arouu
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Posted - 2008.05.12 17:14:00 -
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That sounds like almost the suckiest thing that could happen.
I hope you get back up there soon.
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Chocco Loco
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Posted - 2008.05.12 17:18:00 -
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I think its a matter of everything coming full circle and biting you in the arse.
Is there anything else going for free or is the firesale over ?
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Arouu
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Posted - 2008.05.12 17:20:00 -
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Originally by: Chocco Loco I think its a matter of everything coming full circle and biting you in the arse.
Is there anything else going for free or is the firesale over ?
There's a difference between ganking you and them getting hacked.
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CCP Mitnal
C C P
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Posted - 2008.05.12 17:23:00 -
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My sympathies, this case highlights the risk of keyloggers and security of your account in general, please take heed of our announcements, if any, on keyloggers and do not share account information as the more people that know, the more at risk your account is.
This is besides the fact it's a violation of the EULA too.
The link between RMT trading and account hacking is proven, please do not allow yourself to fall victim to such activity.
Mitnal Community Representative CCP Games, EVE Online Email / Netfang
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Ur235
Invicta.
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Posted - 2008.05.12 17:26:00 -
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crap happens dont cry about it mmkay?
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Ragnar Danneskjuld
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.05.12 17:30:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Mitnal
The link between RMT trading and account hacking is proven, please do not allow yourself to fall victim to such activity.
Seems to me that this statement says alot more than just the words used.
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Golden Helmet
Caldari The Python Cartel
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Posted - 2008.05.12 17:30:00 -
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Originally by: cRaNbErRy MuFfInMaN Yes where hated but as you know there are only about 8 pirate groups left 7 if factory dies after 4yrs of being in eve.
Your not looking hard enough
Anyways, die out just because of some lost dreads and carriers? Sort out the proper roles back to everyone, go camp a gate if too lazy to roam a belt, quit your *****ing and keep your password a little safer. You can pirate fine without capitals.
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Kage Toshimado
Kage Clan
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Posted - 2008.05.12 17:34:00 -
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crap happens? The guy just lost what looks to be around 25 billion in assets and ISK. Not sure if it was all obtained legally via ingame mechanics (why would you need 10 dreads is my question?) but if it was then "crap happens" is not cool.
Now if the isk and ships in question that were stolen were not obtained legally then that's a different matter.
Having seen how the muffin factory works first hand though. I can imagine that he worked for quite awhile to collect his assest and ISK. What they were doing appeared quite profitable to me.
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Havohej
The Defias Brotherhood DEFI4NT
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Posted - 2008.05.12 17:43:00 -
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Actually, crap happens does apply here.
I know a lot of people like/respect the muffin guys, but they got corpthieved. MOST of the time, "my account got hacked" really means "somebody I trusted with my acct info has betrayed my trust and robbed me and my corporation".
If his account really DID get hacked without him giving out his info to some trusted corpmate, then he was keylogged from something he downloaded OR he was gotten by some isk farmers he dealt with.
If it was a random program that he downloaded from somewhere, it's unlikely that the hacker would actually be in his corporation - seems too coincidental. It's even MORE unlikely that he'd have some isk farmer in a pirate corp like the muffin factory, so that answer doesn't make sense either. (Sorry Mitnal).
His acct was logged into by someone in the corporation, who then cleaned him out. I'm more inclined to believe the first scenario - he trusted someone, gave them his acct info, and suffered for it.
If some carebear corp's CEO posted here about how they got hit by a corp thief, the whole of C&P would be replying with " Don't trust anyone!"
But because it's muffin factory, the rules are somehow different?
Originally by: techzer0 I'm invincible until proven wrong
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Ragnar Danneskjuld
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.05.12 17:46:00 -
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Originally by: Havohej Actually, crap happens does apply here.
I know a lot of people like/respect the muffin guys, but they got corpthieved. MOST of the time, "my account got hacked" really means "somebody I trusted with my acct info has betrayed my trust and robbed me and my corporation".
If his account really DID get hacked without him giving out his info to some trusted corpmate, then he was keylogged from something he downloaded OR he was gotten by some isk farmers he dealt with.
If it was a random program that he downloaded from somewhere, it's unlikely that the hacker would actually be in his corporation - seems too coincidental. It's even MORE unlikely that he'd have some isk farmer in a pirate corp like the muffin factory, so that answer doesn't make sense either. (Sorry Mitnal).
His acct was logged into by someone in the corporation, who then cleaned him out. I'm more inclined to believe the first scenario - he trusted someone, gave them his acct info, and suffered for it.
If some carebear corp's CEO posted here about how they got hit by a corp thief, the whole of C&P would be replying with " Don't trust anyone!"
But because it's muffin factory, the rules are somehow different?
You said it better than I did.
o7
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Greenbolt
Minmatar Un4seen Development
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Posted - 2008.05.12 17:48:00 -
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What do they say about pirate tears being the sweetest?
Seriously though..if it was a hack..i hope CCP straightens it out.
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Erotic Irony
0bsession
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Posted - 2008.05.12 17:54:00 -
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Originally by: cRaNbErRy MuFfInMaN Crysis
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Kage Toshimado
Kage Clan
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Posted - 2008.05.12 17:58:00 -
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Originally by: Havohej
But because it's muffin factory, the rules are somehow different?
Not saying the rules have to be different but your point is understood. Until he replies with more detail, I guess we won't know. Looks like you have to explain in more detail cranberry.
I guess you'd just be on your merry way if this happened to you?
No, you'd petition and try and get your stuff back. Anyway I am done defending muffins.
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Diimitrias
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.05.12 18:10:00 -
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Suck it up and continue with life, or quit.
Isnt that the saying most used in here?
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uraniumcore1
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.05.12 18:15:00 -
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Hey,tho..We dont camp gates together anymore..alittle bad blood..anyway...this just sucks.."Hacked'.Hope things get worked out for your corp...so i still have someone to loathe in game..your enemy...Uraniumcore1 Sig removed, lacks Eve-related content - Cortes |
Jecob
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Posted - 2008.05.12 18:27:00 -
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Ouch
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Luke Lamarr
Infinitus Morti R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.12 18:38:00 -
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WTS: pirate tears
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Lykah Storm
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Posted - 2008.05.12 18:47:00 -
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Edited by: Lykah Storm on 12/05/2008 18:48:18
Originally by: CCP Mitnal My sympathies, this case highlights the risk of keyloggers and security of your account in general, please take heed of our announcements, if any, on keyloggers and do not share account information as the more people that know, the more at risk your account is.
This is besides the fact it's a violation of the EULA too.
The link between RMT trading and account hacking is proven, please do not allow yourself to fall victim to such activity.
You can get keylogger also from eve related websites all so on. PFD files, utilies, etc. Little over year a go I got pwn'd probably by keylogger in my system. The hacker logged on my accounts and took ISK, took assets, and corp assests and corp ISK. GM's fixed everything nicely, great job for doing it.
But really, be carefully when you are about to download ANY eve related stuff. And like Mitnal said, NEVER give account information to anyone. Even to your friends - your friend might have keylogger on his/her system!
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Nexa Necis
The Really Awesome Players Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.12 18:48:00 -
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Shouldn't this be moved to Out of Pod Experience forum? After all Crysis is a completely different game than Eve.
What your stuff being taken in Eve has to do with your corp being featured in Crysis is beyond me.
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Stakhanov
Metafarmers
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Posted - 2008.05.12 18:48:00 -
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Originally by: cRaNbErRy MuFfInMaN If ships and mods arnt able to be returned most likely see the death of one of the oldest and long lasting pirate corps in eve.
Didn't you just say they were your personal assets ? If you were holding them on behalf of the corp , I can see how this shatters your mates' morale , but if they were just yours this is merely a huge individual loss. Even if you've been griefed out of Eve , I don't see why this should extend to your corp. The spirit of a corp should go beyond a single leadership - if I were to quit Eve for a reason or another , my 6 months old corp would survive and keep killing farmers with the same zeal.
Originally by: Bloody Puppy because it's a good game because it's a good game because it's a good gameeeeee ccp gonna nerf it
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Toria Nynys
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.05.12 18:58:00 -
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Edited by: Toria Nynys on 12/05/2008 18:58:49 The fact that the 'hacker' knew enough about eve corp mechanics to do what they did is very telling. I'm inclined to believe the shared password theory.
A 25 bil loss (6b/year played, that's pretty hefty!) can be devastating. But if that's all it takes to get you to quit -- well, you're no better than the carebears who quit after you gateganked them.
CCP doesn't owe you anything special for being one of the last remaining pirate corps (which, btw, I don't buy either). They provided a sandbox you enjoyed enough to play in for years. Either that's still the fact or it's not. RF online looks like a standard Korean grinder to me (and I know grinding!), but if you find it more entertaining more power to you.
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AizenSousuke
Gallente Gear Ratio Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.05.12 18:59:00 -
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So you took a huge hit and you're going to break up the corp? Show some backbone, man.. I DO agree that you did loose a TON of isk worth of stuff, and I'm sure that you're REALLY ****ed, but you're going to disband after 4 years at work? Jesus..
Just buy some T-1 cruisers and start from the bottom again, and take better precautions. If you got hacked, it's your own fault. Next time remember that you NO ONE can be trusted with your account, DON'T give someone else access to something you can't afford to loose, and BE CAREFUL with the websites you visit and things you download. And though I doubt you mingled with isk sellers (because if you did, you'd be REALLY ****ing stupid to moan about your loss here), if by some chance you did, shame on you...
Lets see how strong your corp really is. If your members can shrug this off and keep going and rebuild, then many, many props to you. -------------------------------------------------- "With hard work and focus ye shall achieve." Unless stated otherwise, the opinions above do not reflect those of my corp or my alliance. Thx. >.> |
Lykah Storm
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Posted - 2008.05.12 19:01:00 -
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And don't worry, if you haven't done anything wrong (buying isk etc) your ships and ISK will be returned. It will take some days.
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Faife
Noctiscion Twilight Trade Cartel
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Posted - 2008.05.12 19:13:00 -
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Originally by: Lykah Storm And don't worry, if you haven't done anything wrong (buying isk etc) your ships and ISK will be returned. It will take some days.
Though the alt you stole it with might have their copies erased.
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Havohej
The Defias Brotherhood DEFI4NT
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Posted - 2008.05.12 19:14:00 -
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Originally by: Faife
Originally by: Lykah Storm And don't worry, if you haven't done anything wrong (buying isk etc) your ships and ISK will be returned. It will take some days.
Though the alt you stole it with might have their copies erased.
Originally by: techzer0 I'm invincible until proven wrong
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clone 1
Laughing Leprechauns Corporation
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Posted - 2008.05.12 19:46:00 -
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Originally by: Lykah Storm And don't worry, if you haven't done anything wrong (buying isk etc) your ships and ISK will be returned. It will take some days.
Doesn't always work out that way. And this incident has been tied to many over the last two weeks and posted in eve general about it. Seems to have worked out for the worse for those folks.
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Plaetean
Personal Vendetta Vendetta Alliance.
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Posted - 2008.05.12 19:50:00 -
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Wait what are we supposed to do again?
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Lord Rue
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2008.05.12 20:03:00 -
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Quote: Wait what are we supposed to do again?
Care, apparently.
I most definately do not.
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