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Privavarian
Gallente
SkillzKillz
Diabolic Paradox
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Posted - 2008.05.17 15:34:00 -
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1) what have they been doing after they realized the EVE gate collapsed
and millions of collonists were left for dead?
and Were therattempts to rescue them?
2) And is their Technology far FAR more superior to all otherempires, because they have been arround for longer?
3) Will there ever be an attempt to make contact with people from earth or their other planets they colonized before they discovered the new eden gate?
I've always wanted to know that:D
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Daerdeae
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Posted - 2008.05.17 15:59:00 -
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Edited by: Daerdeae on 17/05/2008 15:59:30
The EVE Gate closed over 15,000 years ago.
Realistically, we're, for the most part, not even sure if there is an 'Earth', and that's if we had ever even heard the name 'Earth'.
No one can know that answer, tbh.
Edit: By the way, we're not even in the Milky Way anymore.
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Talon Aidian
Skill Level Six
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Posted - 2008.05.20 18:46:00 -
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The discovery of the Evegate came at a time when the large corporate empire that centered around Earth faced internal conflicts and a large amount of internal pressure. The passage through the wormhole provided a relief to these stresses and a new frontier.
When the Evegate collapsed, the entire stargate system in New Eden also collapsed. It is a plausible assumption that the same thing happened on a smaller or larger scale on the other side of the wormhole, and that what remained of the empire afterwards would have been back to the situation before the discovery of the wormhole. My personal opinion is that any remnants of the Terran empire quickly fell into civil strife, and all that entails. Most likely, with a supply and commerce system not as dependent on what passed through the Evegate, the worlds of the empire kept much of their technology for a time, but that also means the conflicts that did happen were probably that much more destructive.
In light of that, the most likely scenerio is that any empire that existed collapsed many thousands of years ago, with a resulting loss of technological progress. Any survivors might continue to pursue their conflicts until fighting was no longer possible for one reason or another. So, we might see dozens of independent stellar states, all struggling to settle old scores no one living remembers.
Or, it could be that there were no survivors of the resulting conflicts. Given our own progress in such weapons as Titans, this does not seem unlikely. Indeed, our distant cousins, if they still exist, may be no better off than we, or even little more than primitive societies locked onto their own worlds, with only a dim memory of their glory among the stars.
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Deviana Sevidon
Gallente
Panta-Rhei
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.05.20 19:47:00 -
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One thing I always wondered is, if since the gate collapsed, any time passed at all on the other side, It might sound strange, but what if the gate itself did not only connect the systems close to earth to another region of space, but also to another time as well?
Maybe the EVE civilisations live in a galaxy millions of light years away from earth, but also in a time before our solar system formed itself from a dust cloud. When the EVE Gate collapsed the other side lost its anchor to the specific position in time and space but immediatly connected itself again to a different location in space and time. It could be the very beginning of the universe, to were the gate connects now, spilling raw matter and energy from this era, through the wormhole.
This could also be the answer to what happened at the other side of the gate. Nothing happened at all, from the perspective of the other side, the gate could have closed only the fraction of a millisecond ago.
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Arvald
The School 0f Fine Arts
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Posted - 2008.05.21 15:53:00 -
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 Originally by: Deviana Sevidon
One thing I always wondered is, if since the gate collapsed, any time passed at all on the other side, It might sound strange, but what if the gate itself did not only connect the systems close to earth to another region of space, but also to another time as well?
Maybe the EVE civilisations live in a galaxy millions of light years away from earth, but also in a time before our solar system formed itself from a dust cloud. When the EVE Gate collapsed the other side lost its anchor to the specific position in time and space but immediatly connected itself again to a different location in space and time. It could be the very beginning of the universe, to were the gate connects now, spilling raw matter and energy from this era, through the wormhole.
This could also be the answer to what happened at the other side of the gate. Nothing happened at all, from the perspective of the other side, the gate could have closed only the fraction of a millisecond ago.
..... ......*brain explodes*
Originally by: Liang Nuren
There are no dangerous ships, there are dangerous people. IIRC, you are one of them.
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Niko medes
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Posted - 2008.05.22 00:11:00 -
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a fraction of a millisecond..
wow.
fraction of a millisecond = 15,000 years  |
Checksum54
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Posted - 2008.05.22 00:19:00 -
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Originally by: Deviana Sevidon
One thing I always wondered is, if since the gate collapsed, any time passed at all on the other side, It might sound strange, but what if the gate itself did not only connect the systems close to earth to another region of space, but also to another time as well?
Maybe the EVE civilisations live in a galaxy millions of light years away from earth, but also in a time before our solar system formed itself from a dust cloud. When the EVE Gate collapsed the other side lost its anchor to the specific position in time and space but immediatly connected itself again to a different location in space and time. It could be the very beginning of the universe, to were the gate connects now, spilling raw matter and energy from this era, through the wormhole.
This could also be the answer to what happened at the other side of the gate. Nothing happened at all, from the perspective of the other side, the gate could have closed only the fraction of a millisecond ago.
I guess that explains where we (people on earth) all came from... |
commander tycho
Minmatar
Cruoris Seraphim
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Posted - 2008.07.04 13:02:00 -
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I have a theory...
What if the people who got cut off on Earth's side advanced so much they could teleport anywhere they wanted and have infact found us again, but have kept themselves secret. Maybe the Jovians found out the about them. Maybe they called them The Enheduanni
Mwahaha.
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Mithfindel
Gallente
Argent Group
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Posted - 2008.07.04 19:52:00 -
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What Deviana said, in a tad more scientific way: Technically if we assume wormholes and the hyperdimensional space as a fact, travel in space-time isn't necessarily limited to travel in space. The wormhole might work also as a time machine, sending the EVE people into prehistoric age.
However, there are some hints that the old Terran civilization was considerably more advanced still compared to the EVE civilizations. The weapon at the last trailer? It's partially functional Terran technology.
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Firkragg
Blue Labs
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.07.05 08:40:00 -
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Originally by: Mithfindel
The weapon at the last trailer? It's partially functional Terran technology.
Actually thats just what the abaddon is like after the amarr boost. It has a bonus to omgwtfbbq beams
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Tony Kael
Caldari
Advanced Warfare Technologies
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Posted - 2008.07.05 22:25:00 -
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whatever may or may not be, i am reasonably sure (hopefull at the least) that this game is heading to a point where the EVE gate becomes a huge aspect of the day-to-day storyline.
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Kalanar
Rulers Of Mankind
Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.06 02:38:00 -
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Maybe we're in the Milky Way, but a couple billion years before Earth...
Maybe we'll teach the Earth People everything they know, then destroy every sign of our existence. Then how about this: the Earth people find this worm hole....
*Divides by Zero*
*Explodes*
o.O
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AT Reynolds
Gallente
Cryosis Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.07.07 05:25:00 -
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Originally by: Kalanar
Maybe we're in the Milky Way, but a couple billion years before Earth...
Maybe we'll teach the Earth People everything they know, then destroy every sign of our existence. Then how about this: the Earth people find this worm hole....
*Divides by Zero*
*Explodes*
o.O
Ladies and gentlemen,
We have just gone full self-fulfilling prophecy...
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Stitcher
Caldari
Duty.
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Posted - 2008.07.07 08:01:00 -
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Remember that "star in the north" thing? The extra bright spot in the sky?
I seem to recall that one of the in-universe working theories explained that phenomenon as the tachyon burst from the collapse of the Terran side of the EVE gate, red-shifted down into the visible spectrum when it slowed down passing through the EVE cluster's very dense dust clouds.
If that was true, it pretty much rules out the whole "time travel" idea. It also means that the collapse event on the Terran side of the gate must have been enormous, to produce a light flare that was larger and brighter than all the stars in the sky, tens of thousands of light years away.
I'm gonna go with the assumption that the Terran side of the gate also suffered a Dark Age, not because of any supply cutoff, but because of the sheer apocalyptic scale of the disaster, which only touched New Eden lightly. If that's the case, then in the ensuing time, it's probable that multiple empires will have arisen just like in New Eden, but that their technology is probably in advance even of the Jove, because they had more ready access to larger amounts of Terran advanced tech than anyone on the New Eden side of the gate did, but not as advanced as it would be had technological progression continued uninterrupted.
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Pottsey
Enheduanni Foundation
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Posted - 2008.07.07 10:14:00 -
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öRemember that "star in the north" thing? The extra bright spot in the sky?ö
The graphic glitch cause by a LOD bug yes I remember.
ôI'm gonna go with the assumption that the Terran side of the gate also suffered a Dark Age, not because of any supply cutoff, but because of the sheer apocalyptic scale of the disaster,ö
Extremely unlikely as the other side is a full galaxy thatÆs populated not a small 5000 sector cluster. Most of the Eve systems that collapsed did so as the colonyÆs where new colonies that were not full built up or self sufficient.
It wasnÆt the gate shutting and explosion that killed most colonies. It was the fact the colonies lost their support line and hadnt been fully terrorformed yet.
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Telltale sign of their presence is non-linear teleportation
(www.eve-online.com/races/theodicy/Theodicy_All.pdf)
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Stitcher
Caldari
Duty.
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Posted - 2008.07.07 11:17:00 -
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Edited by: Stitcher on 07/07/2008 11:17:49
Originally by: Pottsey
öRemember that "star in the north" thing? The extra bright spot in the sky?ö
The graphic glitch cause by a LOD bug yes I remember.
Yep. CCP provided an in-universe hypothetical explanation for it, which I've already described.
Unfortunately, I can't find the archived news article anywhere.
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ôI'm gonna go with the assumption that the Terran side of the gate also suffered a Dark Age, not because of any supply cutoff, but because of the sheer apocalyptic scale of the disaster,ö
Extremely unlikely as the other side is a full galaxy thatÆs populated not a small 5000 sector cluster. Most of the Eve systems that collapsed did so as the colonyÆs where new colonies that were not full built up or self sufficient.
It wasnÆt the gate shutting and explosion that killed most colonies. It was the fact the colonies lost their support line and hadnt been fully terrorformed yet.
Granted, but what I'm saying is that maybe the Terran side of the EVE gate suffered a far greater detonation - one large enough to produce a flare that large and bright in the skies of New Eden must have been apocalyptic on the Terran end, equal to a thousand supernovae or more. An explosion in space on that sort of scale would irradiate and kill billions of people for thousands of light years around. Devastation on that sort of scale might well lead to societal collapse.
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Tony Kael
Caldari
Advanced Warfare Technologies
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Posted - 2008.07.07 14:13:00 -
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according to empyrean age fluff there are terran freighter wrecks and cargo cans near point genesis (the centre of EVE) and also at least one station located in deadspace.
what is clear this that Earth technology was hundreds of times in advance of our own, as demonstrated by the Amarr using recovered terran weapsons technology which was unknown and incredibly dangerous.
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Keikun87
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Posted - 2008.07.07 22:49:00 -
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Originally by: Kalanar
Maybe we're in the Milky Way, but a couple billion years before Earth...
Maybe we'll teach the Earth People everything they know, then destroy every sign of our existence. Then how about this: the Earth people find this worm hole....
*Divides by Zero*
*Explodes*
o.O
sorry Kalanar but I really wish that wasn't true, because It would suck
Having to go through that kind of cycle over and over again
I believe some day, the gate will open, and we will see a civilization that is even more advanced than all of us, at the same time hopefully another war will not happen involving all races to fight.
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