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Docter Daniel Jackson
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.06 11:10:00 -
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CCP should rely look into the idea of having authenticators for logging into the game, for some that dont know what it is, its a program on ur phone or a little key chain thing, that makes a code that is around 6 digits long and changes every 1 min or so, it's rely good for helping stop hackers or unwanted people on your account.
I think this is some thing CCP should have looked into a long time ago its rely easy to do and will help the players a lot in keeping there accounts more safe, your better to be safe then sorry I say. |
Docter Daniel Jackson
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.06 11:12:00 -
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Also if by chance there is one for EVE Online, were can I find it and also why is it not on the front page of the web site so people can get one for there phone ect. |
Dray Cil
Pave the Way Enterprises
0
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Posted - 2012.03.06 11:12:00 -
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I too, would be interested in this. Too many hacked accounts in MMO's these days. |
Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
97
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Posted - 2012.03.06 11:14:00 -
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They were handed out to people who went to Fanfest last year
They have been since forgotten about. |
Zaotome
Schweine im Weltall.
1
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Posted - 2012.03.06 11:43:00 -
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that is something worth implementing into the new eve-laucher!
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CatreX Nolen
The Syndicate Inc Eternal Syndicate
2
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Posted - 2012.03.06 11:51:00 -
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Let it be! This would be extremely useful. |
Equto
EXURO VITA GREATER ITAMO MAFIA
11
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Posted - 2012.03.06 12:11:00 -
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I will once again voice my opinion in the useless category just don't force me to use one. |
Ardvaark Ratnik
Voice of the Blood Raiders
2
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Posted - 2012.03.06 13:01:00 -
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I would love to have this as an option. |
jhanby
T.A.R.M. Ltd
2
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Posted - 2012.03.06 13:17:00 -
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+1 |
Henry Haphorn
Aliastra Gallente Federation
215
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Posted - 2012.03.06 13:53:00 -
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Personally, when it comes to authentication devices, I would very much prefer to rely on SMS style authentication. I see it as a very secure and convenient way of making sure you have that added layer of protection without having to lug around an extra clunky device. After all, a lot of people have smart phones and I use my Android phone to provide authentication codes for both my main email account and my very important bank account.
Of course, considering that not all players have a cell phone, it's preferred to have this added level of security as an opt-in option. Welcome to Eve Online. Don't expect people to be nice to you. |
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Prince Kobol
213
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Posted - 2012.03.06 14:24:00 -
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If I remember rightly CCP I love RMT Screeg ruled this out due to privacy issues |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3374
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Posted - 2012.03.06 14:50:00 -
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the FoB tokens are defeatable for sure but its better than nothing. I think eve did their cost analysis and found out that the fobs where unlikely to save eve money in the long run (where as it can with wow with thier 10 million players) Fobs for wow are much much more expensive than thier selling prices.
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Prince Kobol
213
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Posted - 2012.03.06 15:18:00 -
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Nova Fox wrote:the FoB tokens are defeatable for sure but its better than nothing. I think eve did their cost analysis and found out that the fobs where unlikely to save eve money in the long run (where as it can with wow with thier 10 million players) Fobs for wow are much much more expensive than thier selling prices.
I remember when I was working a World Wide Major IT Support Company and each RSA Token cost them -ú80 each and that was nearly 8 years ago so can see how that would be the case. |
Bootleg Jack
Potters Field
21
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Posted - 2012.03.06 15:21:00 -
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Docter Daniel Jackson wrote:CCP should rely look into the idea of having authenticators for logging into the game, for some that dont know what it is, its a program on ur phone or a little key chain thing, that makes a code that is around 6 digits long and changes every 1 min or so, it's rely good for helping stop hackers or unwanted people on your account.
I think this is some thing CCP should have looked into a long time ago its rely easy to do and will help the players a lot in keeping there accounts more safe, your better to be safe then sorry I say.
This is not WoW and CCP did not make the incredibly stupid, Internet 101, mistake of changing to email addresses for account names AFTER the accounts were created.
Authenticators are not needed if your security is not crap. |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3375
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Posted - 2012.03.06 15:25:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:Nova Fox wrote:the FoB tokens are defeatable for sure but its better than nothing. I think eve did their cost analysis and found out that the fobs where unlikely to save eve money in the long run (where as it can with wow with thier 10 million players) Fobs for wow are much much more expensive than thier selling prices. I remember when I was working a World Wide Major IT Support Company and each RSA Token cost them -ú80 each and that was nearly 8 years ago so can see how that would be the case.
They probbably a bit more expensive then after you slate it into customers needs and of course liscensing and small market providers doesnt help drive your 120$ price down at all as there is like... only 1 company that enmass buys these fobs?
Either way its mostly GM time vs Fob costs and how much you are willing to pass that cost onto the customer.
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
839
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Posted - 2012.03.06 15:38:00 -
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Docter Daniel Jackson wrote:CCP should rely look into the idea of having authenticators for logging into the game, for some that dont know what it is, its a program on ur phone or a little key chain thing, that makes a code that is around 6 digits long and changes every 1 min or so, it's rely good for helping stop hackers or unwanted people on your account.
I think this is some thing CCP should have looked into a long time ago its rely easy to do and will help the players a lot in keeping there accounts more safe, your better to be safe then sorry I say.
You can't engineer stupid out of people.
If I name my character Mr Epeen, my acct Mr Epeen and my password Mrepeen1 and I use the same password and acct name for everything I do (email, other games, facebook, etc) then it really doesn't matter what fobs or capcha type hoops I have to dance through. I will be eventually compromised.
A good percentage of the dweebs online today can be hacked in minutes because of the example I just gave.
So, I'm in favor of education rather than add another layer of inconvenience to logging in to a game.
Mr Epeen
Me too!-á I ate one sour, too! |
Grey Stormshadow
draketrain Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
1026
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Posted - 2012.03.06 16:37:00 -
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Patient 2428190 wrote:They were handed out to people who went to Fanfest last year
They have been since forgotten about. This year everyone will get free sports car which will be implemented to the driving in stations soonTM
Get |
Lady Immortal
STRAG3S THE UNTHINKABLES
0
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Posted - 2012.03.06 21:17:00 -
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Patient 2428190 wrote:They were handed out to people who went to Fanfest last year
They have been since forgotten about.
To be fair, They have been handed out at fanfest since '08 every year. (Can't speak for ones before that.) |
Valei Khurelem
405
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Posted - 2012.03.06 21:32:00 -
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Yes! Lets try and save people from their own stupidity! It always works for the banks and governments so it must work for simple things like game accounts too!
"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP." -á - CCP Ytterbium |
Docter Daniel Jackson
The Scope Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2012.03.06 23:32:00 -
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Bootleg Jack wrote:Docter Daniel Jackson wrote:CCP should rely look into the idea of having authenticators for logging into the game, for some that dont know what it is, its a program on ur phone or a little key chain thing, that makes a code that is around 6 digits long and changes every 1 min or so, it's rely good for helping stop hackers or unwanted people on your account.
I think this is some thing CCP should have looked into a long time ago its rely easy to do and will help the players a lot in keeping there accounts more safe, your better to be safe then sorry I say. This is not WoW and CCP did not make the incredibly stupid, Internet 101, mistake of changing to email addresses for account names AFTER the accounts were created. Authenticators are not needed if your security is not crap.
Better to be safe then sorry as I said already its some thing rely simple they could add to a phone app for people that want it, I'm not asking to make it a thing u have to have to work ur account but a thing you could have if you want it.
And I can already tell you know very little on security, because you can be a smart as and have all kinds of firewalls and stuff on your computer but things do happen that can lead to getting some thing on your computer your never a 100% safe. |
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xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers Galactic-Rangers
43
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Posted - 2012.03.06 23:38:00 -
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Patient 2428190 wrote:They were handed out to people who went to Fanfest last year
They have been since forgotten about.
mine sits on my desk as a trophy of being at fanfest, i'm sure it will be used soon.tm |
Scrapyard Bob
EVE University Ivy League
738
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Posted - 2012.03.07 04:35:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:I remember when I was working a World Wide Major IT Support Company and each RSA Token cost them -ú80 each and that was nearly 8 years ago so can see how that would be the case.
Just because stuff costs -ú80 8 years ago - does not mean that it will cost -ú80 today. In fact the commonly used Digipass GO # series authenticators seem to be readily available for $30-$36 USD in single units.
Buy 55, price drops to 27.44, buy 1000+ and the price drops to about $12.50 USD.
I would imagine that there are easily 1000 EVE users who would use a key fob.
If they were available, I'd definitely use one. |
KrakizBad
Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension
420
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Posted - 2012.03.07 05:13:00 -
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I can hardly wait to add in another layer of crap to switching between characters on multiple accounts; what fun! http://blog.beyondreality.se/Incursion-hose Remove all incursions from hisec |
Serene Repose
Perkone Caldari State
343
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Posted - 2012.03.07 07:37:00 -
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For my security needs I prefer the Mormon's Magic Underwear. (The men's crotch thingy looks a bit ambitious, no?)
Smokestack lightnin' shinin' just like gold. |
Mai Khumm
Apple Construction Inc Northern Associates.
174
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Posted - 2012.03.07 09:37:00 -
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This is a great idea, but only really necessary for a game with a high risk of hackers or keyloggers. I.E. WoW. I know a co-worker walks around with one of those for his WoW acct. He bitches about it constantly whenever he logs in at work. While I play EVE without the need for a keychain. It was funny as **** when he "loses" it and cant log in.
On a side note Also, pick a more orignal name? Stargate only worked well with Universe, the others (with Jackson) made me want to smash my face against a brick wall... "Being drunk is a good disguise. I drink so I can talk to a**holes. This includes me." |
xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers Galactic-Rangers
43
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Posted - 2012.03.07 13:18:00 -
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KrakizBad wrote:I can hardly wait to add in another layer of crap to switching between characters on multiple accounts; what fun!
you didn't mind adding that layer of crap on your avatars face did ya
how can you not get security on your account is a good thing ffs. |
Equto
EXURO VITA GREATER ITAMO MAFIA
11
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Posted - 2012.03.07 13:26:00 -
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Docter Daniel Jackson wrote:Bootleg Jack wrote:Docter Daniel Jackson wrote:CCP should rely look into the idea of having authenticators for logging into the game, for some that dont know what it is, its a program on ur phone or a little key chain thing, that makes a code that is around 6 digits long and changes every 1 min or so, it's rely good for helping stop hackers or unwanted people on your account.
I think this is some thing CCP should have looked into a long time ago its rely easy to do and will help the players a lot in keeping there accounts more safe, your better to be safe then sorry I say. This is not WoW and CCP did not make the incredibly stupid, Internet 101, mistake of changing to email addresses for account names AFTER the accounts were created. Authenticators are not needed if your security is not crap. Better to be safe then sorry as I said already its some thing rely simple they could add to a phone app for people that want it, I'm not asking to make it a thing u have to have to work ur account but a thing you could have if you want it. And I can already tell you know very little on security, because you can be a smart as and have all kinds of firewalls and stuff on your computer but things do happen that can lead to getting some thing on your computer your never a 100% safe.
You sir are correct in saying that at some point in time your account somewhere will be hacked. But less you control the key fobs is such a way to to never lose it or provide a way in which the hacker can not remove it than it is entirely useless. To make this point you have to think of this
How can you make an authenticator that can be replaced when lost but not be abused by account hackers. If you can answer that question you will be the richest man in the world. |
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CCP Sreegs
C C P C C P Alliance
429
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Posted - 2012.03.07 13:32:00 -
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Patient 2428190 wrote:They were handed out to people who went to Fanfest last year
They have been since forgotten about.
They have not been forgotten about :)
Expect an update with ballpark deployment dates at Fanfest this year. There's a number of additional security enhancements which have already occurred. What we will also explain is what the delay was, as there was a lot that had to change on the backend in order for this technology to be implemented at all.
I'm really swamped today so I can't watch the thread but the above is when you can expect more information. |
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Artemis Ahab
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2012.03.07 15:04:00 -
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Mai Khumm wrote:
Stargate only worked well with Universe, the others (with Jackson) made me want to smash my face against a brick wall...
Quoting for stupid. Universe sucked. Original series > spin offs due to awesomeness of RDA. |
Mai Khumm
Apple Construction Inc Northern Associates.
174
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Posted - 2012.03.07 15:29:00 -
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Artemis Ahab wrote:Mai Khumm wrote:
Stargate only worked well with Universe, the others (with Jackson) made me want to smash my face against a brick wall...
Quoting for stupid. Universe sucked. Original series > spin offs due to awesomeness of RDA.
You do realize that the "original" stargate series was a spinoff from a movie in the mid 90's...
"Being drunk is a good disguise. I drink so I can talk to a**holes. This includes me." |
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