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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates
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Posted - 2008.05.20 20:55:00 -
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Edited by: James Lyrus on 20/05/2008 20:56:27 Well, with the upcoming factional warfare, and as a Caldari forum troll of long standing, I thought I would put together a guide to smacktalk, in character. Bearing in mind that you do not necessarily hate the person behind the character, I thought it might be useful to offer some suggestions as to ways in which you might trashtalk your opponents, whilst keeping it firmly behind that IC/OC divide.
Gallente should be referred to as gender confused hairdressers. This is in reference to their libertarian and hedonistic lifestyles, and the very definitely 'pretty boy' styling of their ships. (and lets not even get into the Thorax). And of course, the fact that they are far more likely to dock up for a manicure, or to 'do their hair' than they are to pit their Blaster Ballet, up against the furious missile mambo.
Avoid the word '***' or obvious allusions to sexual preferences. Not least because that can be construed as an out of character insult, but also because it makes you look like a 12 year old, tittering over 'naughty words'. Quality smack is important.
Minmatar should be referred to as 'flying monkeys' in reference to their primitive nature, and their propensity for flying ships that are small, annoying, and generally a bit of a nuisance in large numbers. This is also a reference to their propensity for snapping bits off your ship, and using them to build tempests, much like in safari parks of old. (To my knowledge, no Tempests have ever been completed in a Safari park. When the junk pile gets too large, it gets sold for scrap unfinished)
Amarrian pilots, you may hear referred to as 'peanuts' for them being bald religious nutters, that some people are allergic to, God botherers, or arrogant swine unable to think for themselves, without an emperor pushing their buttons. As a right thinking Caldari pilot, this should be discouraged. They are, after all, on our side. Reference to them as 'ard blokes laying down the tachyon tango is appropriate.
You may hear Caldari pilots referred as 'boring ex-gallente who'd rather spend an evening with a spreadsheet, than having sex'. There is a spiteful rumour that we are facist money grubbers, who'd sell our parents for a spare Bloodclaw missile. This is incorrect. It'd be at least two. Caldari ships you may hear referred to as 'ugly bricks, that couldn't hit a starbase if it flew in front of their launchers'. This too, is incorrect. Our ships are functional, and elegant. They are weapons, as much as the pilots who fly them, and look manly enough to be parked next to a bikers club, without shame. Anyone making such allusions should be corrected. Verbally ideally - we are not, after all, facists - but if the situation presents a few volleys of torpedos can prove most educational in correct manners.
There is of course, room for additional areas of development in racial biasing and hatred, and any opportunity should of course, be jumped upon. It remains important though, whenever participating in the in character chat, that you make it clear that it's their character you're aiming at, not the player.
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Kaganis Warmonkey
Caldari Lyrus Associates
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Posted - 2008.05.20 21:15:00 -
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Originally by: James Lyrus as a Caldari forum troll of long standing
He finally admits it!!!
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Reyold Bengali
Caldari Unethical Heroes
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Posted - 2008.05.20 21:26:00 -
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Originally by: James Lyrus
Gallente should be referred to as gender confused hairdressers.
So, would calling a Gallente opponent a "snail eating surrender-monkey" be considered IC or OC? ------- Never argue with an idiot. They'll drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience. |
Benco97
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.05.20 21:26:00 -
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Originally by: Reyold Bengali So, would calling a Gallente opponent a "snail eating surrender-monkey" be considered IC or OC?
In my opinion that's bordering on OOC
Originally by: Kirjava This man speaks the truth, when he farts we count the length in seconds and make squillions buying winning lottery tickets.
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Bronson Hughes
The. Conspiracy
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Posted - 2008.05.20 21:31:00 -
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Originally by: James Lyrus Caldari ships you may hear referred to as '[ships] that couldn't hit a starbase if it flew in front of [them]'
Technically, the Gallente already have that market cornered.... -------------------- "I am hard pressed on my right; my centre is giving way; situation excellent; I am attacking." - Ferdinand Foch at the Battle of the Marne |
Gaia Stormrider
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Posted - 2008.05.20 21:44:00 -
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Originally by: James Lyrus you may hear referred to as 'peanuts' for them being bald religious nutters, that some people are allergic to, God botherers, or arrogant swine unable to think for themselves, without an emperor pushing their buttons.
I am agrieved. I am not bald!
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Tzar'rim
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Posted - 2008.05.20 21:49:00 -
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Gallente
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates
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Posted - 2008.05.20 21:56:00 -
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Originally by: Gaia Stormrider
Originally by: James Lyrus you may hear referred to as 'peanuts' for them being bald religious nutters, that some people are allergic to, God botherers, or arrogant swine unable to think for themselves, without an emperor pushing their buttons.
I am agrieved. I am not bald!
ITS A WIG! -- Crane needs more grid 249km locking? |
cyberdog
Anoint Anarchy.
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Posted - 2008.05.20 22:30:00 -
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Aslong as you don't support the Minmatar it's fine by me. The second you do i'll come and shoot you in the face with my lasers.
P.s. Filthy Caldari carebear.
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates
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Posted - 2008.05.21 17:53:00 -
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Originally by: cyberdog Aslong as you don't support the Minmatar it's fine by me. The second you do i'll come and shoot you in the face with my lasers.
P.s. Filthy Caldari carebear.
See, there is truth in the rumour that they're all bald :) -- Crane needs more grid 249km locking? |
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Nyphur
Pillowsoft
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Posted - 2008.05.21 17:58:00 -
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Unfortunately, when most people try to roleplay, they end up coming off with the exact same overused phrases. Once FW hits, we'll be swamped with scum - Exclaimations of "Caldari scum!" to the left, rebuttals of "Gallente scum!" to the right and local channel the unfortunate vessel for the whole discussion. I just wish people could be a bit more creative than calling their enemies scum. It can't be THAT hard.
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Stakhanov
Metafarmers
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Posted - 2008.05.21 19:57:00 -
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Alfred Spangler
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.05.21 20:06:00 -
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I lol'd. Well written, thanks.
I will refers to it as much as possible
Greetz, A.S.
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JamnOne
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Posted - 2008.05.21 20:14:00 -
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Edited by: JamnOne on 21/05/2008 20:14:42
Originally by: Nyphur Unfortunately, when most people try to roleplay, they end up coming off with the exact same overused phrases. Once FW hits, we'll be swamped with scum - Exclaimations of "Caldari scum!" to the left, rebuttals of "Gallente scum!" to the right and local channel the unfortunate vessel for the whole discussion. I just wish people could be a bit more creative than calling their enemies scum. It can't be THAT hard.
It is only because of the Minmatar. Since they are such simple people only good for slavery we have to keep terms really simple for them. If we use big words then they get lost. Being a good slave owner we try to teach them, but after a while you get tired of trying and resort back to simple words and phrases. ________________________
Originally by: CCP Wrangler So, it's all my fault.
Originally by: CCP Prism X Hah! Vengeance is sweet!
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Woodwraith
Prophets Of a Damned Universe
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Posted - 2008.05.21 20:50:00 -
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the phrase 'empty 40 oz. bottle to the head springs to mind'
and james, dont kid yourself, you guys are flying the Toyota Prius' of New Eden, and if your gonna park it in front of a bar, it'd better be one of those ones with an obscurly suggestive name, and i think you know what i mean... /nods
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Rodj Blake
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2008.05.21 20:58:00 -
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Other appropriate words with which to address a Minmatar include worm, dog and bongo-boy.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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CCP Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2008.05.21 21:01:00 -
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I approve of this message and witty insults to all races, but the jove are the eewest of us all. They look..slimey
Pink Dread has been hijacked
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Xathytoz
Roswell Project Victimz
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Posted - 2008.05.23 10:10:00 -
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Edited by: Xathytoz on 23/05/2008 10:19:09
Originally by: James Lyrus Edited by: James Lyrus on 20/05/2008 20:56:27 Gallente should be referred to as gender confused hairdressers. This is in reference to their libertarian and hedonistic lifestyles, and the very definitely 'pretty boy' styling of their ships. (and lets not even get into the Thorax). And of course, the fact that they are far more likely to dock up for a manicure, or to 'do their hair' than they are to pit their Blaster Ballet, up against the furious missile mambo.
Ah, luckily being part of the Federation doesn't mean being Gallente. =) I mean, hell, we Intaki are proud poeple, we don't even cut our hair (or finger nails...) until we can use the lower end as a butt pillow. :) Also we are famous for being opportunistic. (What would Mordu's Legion be without us Rock'n'Roll-Ninja backstabbers? ^^)
Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia I approve of this message and witty insults to all races, but the jove are the eewest of us all. They look..slimey
Yeah, but at least they gave the square-chins (Civire) the pod-technolgy. And the best lightshow still is a Caldaripod acting like pot... going up in smoke 'n' flames. xD
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Drizit
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Posted - 2008.05.23 10:30:00 -
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Most of the smack I see these days is confined to one word responses. Noob and griefer are the normal responses.
BTW: I'm not bald, I'm folically challenged. You must learn to be politically correct these days if you want to avoid a law suit.
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Andrea Tesla
Crazy Clone Warriors of Disaster Hereticus Aegis Communis
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Posted - 2008.05.23 10:34:00 -
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Gall-ente translates very nicely vor me...
"Gall" being another word for bile, which everyone knows to be foul tasting poisonous.
"ente" is the german word for "Duck" ... a type of bird known to ruthlessly invest poor innocent lakes.
As Gallente tend to be vuln to thermal damage, my favorite type of dish is "ger÷stete Ente" (fried duck)
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Frug
Repo Industries R.E.P.O.
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Posted - 2008.05.23 10:40:00 -
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The op is actually pretty gold.
Especially for something IC in eve.
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Saipil
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Posted - 2008.05.23 10:55:00 -
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Originally by: Nyphur Unfortunately, when most people try to roleplay, they end up coming off with the exact same overused phrases. Once FW hits, we'll be swamped with scum - Exclaimations of "Caldari scum!" to the left, rebuttals of "Gallente scum!" to the right and local channel the unfortunate vessel for the whole discussion. I just wish people could be a bit more creative than calling their enemies scum. It can't be THAT hard.
What's wrong with "Caldari scum"? It might be overused but that doesn't make it any less true.
Question to the OP: did you use to troll the market forums or was that another troll trolling there?
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Karanth
Eve's Brothers of Destiny FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.05.23 11:02:00 -
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Pretty sure that was a different troll.
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Memnoch Ares
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.23 11:28:00 -
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Edited by: Memnoch Ares on 23/05/2008 11:28:31 What about the female characters?
Noone wants to talk about them cause they all look like dirty prostitutes or prisoners. Especially ones with those dark veins. [ 2008.04.14 03:27:38 ] Luna HI > well thats freaking great [ 2008.04.14 03:29:36 ] Memnoch Ares > sweet. was freaking great for me too |
b1zz
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Posted - 2008.05.23 11:34:00 -
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Originally by: James Lyrus
Minmatar should be referred to as 'flying monkeys' in reference to their primitive nature,
Better not use the word 'monkey', the Minnies might accuse the Amarr of racism throwing them into a hissy fit of indignation the result of which being they refuse to 'tour' minmatar space ever again!
And why the hell is Andrew Simons playing cricket for Australia when he should be taking down Amarr Battle Cruisers with his "Malkuth' Cricket Bat Launcher?
Andrew Simons is a Minmatar if I ever saw one!
Please note: none of the above will make sense if you're American...or Swedish...or German or...from a place that is not a member of the Commonwealth of countries which formed from what was once the British Empire a product of the dominance of British naval dominance from the 17th century to the 19th century...A.D.
I would just call the Caldari 'The Faceless', because you never get close enough to the pansy missile throwers to see what they look like.
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CrestoftheStars
Recreation Of The World
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Posted - 2008.05.23 11:54:00 -
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Originally by: Reyold Bengali
Originally by: James Lyrus
Gallente should be referred to as gender confused hairdressers.
So, would calling a Gallente opponent a "snail eating surrender-monkey" be considered IC or OC?
drop the monkey since it is used to refer to black or middle east people in some situations and can be claimed as racial, use something else like "donkey" or whatever and then it is good.
i still don't see the difference though either smack is ALLOWED or it is DISALLOWED, which words you use shouldn't even be considered since the things you find offensive is very different from culture and person. ___________________________________________ Whoever appeals to the law against his fellow man is either a fool or a coward. Whoever cannot take care of himself without that law is both. For a wounded |
CrestoftheStars
Recreation Of The World
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Posted - 2008.05.23 11:56:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia I approve of this message and witty insults to all races, but the jove are the eewest of us all. They look..slimey
hehe not to push you but i bet you don't have the balls to say it to their faces XD
jove rules in any case... sigh i miss the good old times where you had a idea that there would be comming a jovian (dev) tumbling though the systems now and then...
well hope the joves will show their face again at some point... ___________________________________________ Whoever appeals to the law against his fellow man is either a fool or a coward. Whoever cannot take care of himself without that law is both. For a wounded |
Fwaps Continuously
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Posted - 2008.05.23 12:05:00 -
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to the OP...excellent thread
As a recent convert to Gallente ships, I can confirm that the goo inside thier pods is in fact hair gel and that their ships handle a lot better when you remove and reprocess the 13 metric tonnes of "for men" moisturisers and other "masculine" cosmetics that come free with every ship.
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Dr Slaughter
Rabies Inc.
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Posted - 2008.05.24 01:34:00 -
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Originally by: JamnOne It is only because of the Minmatar. Since they are such simple people only good for slavery we have to keep terms really simple for them. If we use big words then they get lost. Being a good slave owner we try to teach them, but after a while you get tired of trying and resort back to simple words and phrases.
I wouldn't expect anything less than such a typically denigrating view to spout from an Amarr slaver. Perhaps you should borrow some of your 'servants' books and learn a little of humanism? Somehow though I doubt you or you Caldari brothers, the avaricious detritus of a far more egalitarian society, could be bothered.
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Tommy TenKreds
Animal Mercantile Executive
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Posted - 2008.05.24 01:43:00 -
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While I heartily endorse the rest of your ridicule, this
Originally by: James Lyrus Minmatar should be referred to as 'flying monkeys'
comparing Minmatar to monkeys could be interpreted as racist, since they are predominantly black skinned characters.
This, in turn, may cause real offense if some players do not consider racist attacks to be acceptable even when IC in nature.
Just sayin.
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