Pages: [1] 2 3 4 5 6 :: one page |
|
Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 1 post(s) |
Alara IonStorm
1728
|
Posted - 2012.03.06 18:22:00 -
[1] - Quote
Details can be found here.
TL:DR CCP is planing to turn the Dessie and BC Skill into 4 Separate Skills, make Battleships take longer to train for and Slice 30 Days of of Capital Ship Training. They are also killing the tier system though.
CCP is considering Skill re-reimbursement options.
Enjoy. |
Doc Fury
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
500
|
Posted - 2012.03.06 18:23:00 -
[2] - Quote
The dumbing-down of EVE marches on.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'no.' |
MadMuppet
Kerguelen Station
163
|
Posted - 2012.03.06 18:24:00 -
[3] - Quote
Broken link or in before locked for rumors? I don't always finish my commentary, but when I do |
Alara IonStorm
1728
|
Posted - 2012.03.06 18:25:00 -
[4] - Quote
MadMuppet wrote:Broken link or in before locked for rumors? Silly Me it is Fixed. |
Cyrus Deacon
Grim Henchman Ghosts of Avalon
0
|
Posted - 2012.03.06 18:25:00 -
[5] - Quote
Jesus christ... Is this the prelude to "press a button and something awesome should happen" ?
Decreasing capital train time is the stupidest ******* idea since WiS |
IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69
Angry Mustellid Iron Oxide.
97
|
Posted - 2012.03.06 18:29:00 -
[6] - Quote
What the **** CCP.
Has the last expansion left you down on your ****** quota? |
Alara IonStorm
1728
|
Posted - 2012.03.06 18:29:00 -
[7] - Quote
Cyrus Deacon wrote: Decreasing capital train time is the stupidest ******* idea since WiS
The stated idea behind it is the next Ship Tree is trainable at Lvl 4. That includes needing New Racial BC IV for Racial BS one.
|
Hanakar
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
0
|
Posted - 2012.03.06 18:30:00 -
[8] - Quote
If this goes live, they just need to reset everyone's skill points and let us decide how to respend it. |
SpaceSquirrels
266
|
Posted - 2012.03.06 18:34:00 -
[9] - Quote
Yeah capitals should be BS 5...but perhaps they're trying to make it easier to train more than one line..
But getting ride of the other crap for t2's is awesome because it doesnt make much sense, and getting rid of tiers is amazing. |
Heimdallofasgard
Blazing Celts
107
|
Posted - 2012.03.06 18:36:00 -
[10] - Quote
Like they said in the dev blog... it's open for discussion
To be honest I don't think capitals should be made easier to train for, but I DO like that they're opening up this kind of dialogue, it will make things very interesting.
There's way too many under utilised ships in game, this will shake things up and make things interesting, they're also letting us know well in advance of what they're planning so discussions can be had and we can say what we do and do not like about it.
Bad Points: Skill removal + speeding up training times for particular ships
Good Points: Reclassification of ships + Effort to try and make redundant ships useful again.
Edit: CCP you might want to fix the images in that blog btw, they've been resized but not compressed so they're taking AGES to render and scrolling from top to bottom just took me about a minute (on Chrome at least) |
|
Wookie 1
Aethelings T A B O O
1
|
Posted - 2012.03.06 18:38:00 -
[11] - Quote
Main concern is those of us with the V's in the unsplit ship skills getting all of the new racials at V, otherwise its just taking training time from people. |
Alara IonStorm
1729
|
Posted - 2012.03.06 18:38:00 -
[12] - Quote
Heimdallofasgard wrote: Good Points: Reclassification of ships + Effort to try and make redundant ships useful again.
This alone to me is worth taking a few hits TBH. I personally will wait for details.
Wookie 1 wrote:Main concern is those of us with the V's in the unsplit ship skills getting all of the new racials at V, otherwise its just taking training time from people. I don't mind going down to 4 separate BC IV's and dumping Dessie IV into Minmatar but I don't fly Command Ships or Dictors which is a problem.
CCP Soundwave did say they may be handing out free SP to help cover loses though. |
Lady Killjoy
HUN Corp. HUN Reloaded
0
|
Posted - 2012.03.06 18:38:00 -
[13] - Quote
Don't keep dumbing down my EvE... |
Roime
Shiva Furnace
241
|
Posted - 2012.03.06 18:40:00 -
[14] - Quote
Why the whine?
That proposal makes a lot of sense.
|
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
842
|
Posted - 2012.03.06 18:40:00 -
[15] - Quote
WOOT!!
Some serious forum war about to break out. They'll be laughing all the way to bar over in CCP headquarters tonight.
Also: In before 50 threads on this blog.
Mr Epeen Me too!-á I ate one sour, too! |
Heimdallofasgard
Blazing Celts
107
|
Posted - 2012.03.06 18:41:00 -
[16] - Quote
This Blog also had a PVP tone to it
i.e: no mention of ships being classified into "Mission Runners" :P |
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
81
|
Posted - 2012.03.06 18:41:00 -
[17] - Quote
Cyrus Deacon wrote:Jesus christ... Is this the prelude to "press a button and something awesome should happen" ?
Decreasing capital train time is the stupidest ******* idea since WiS
Jumping into the ship 30 days early still does not take into account the proper skills to fly it AND the new ship line mastery skills they are planning on adding.
Nice twitch rage though.
Also like how making sense equals dumbing EVE down. |
Obsidian Hawk
RONA Corporation RONA Directorate
773
|
Posted - 2012.03.06 18:41:00 -
[18] - Quote
What alara FAILED AT WAS, the part of the dev blog that flat out said,
Nothing is set in stone, these are just some ideas of what we want to do, but player feedback is needed to help adjust the system. |
Indalecia
6
|
Posted - 2012.03.06 18:44:00 -
[19] - Quote
Looks good to me, in my opinion (except the cap ships on which I have no opinion).
This is not dumbing down the game, this is just putting more continuity and consistency to a system that got more and more heterogeneous patch after patch. Also, getting rid of the tier system is a step in the good direction.
Wait & see. |
Alara IonStorm
1729
|
Posted - 2012.03.06 18:44:00 -
[20] - Quote
Obsidian Hawk wrote:What alara FAILED AT WAS, the part of the dev blog that flat out said,
Nothing is set in stone, these are just some ideas of what we want to do, but player feedback is needed to help adjust the system. I did not fail at anything. They are making plans to do this. Whether they carry them out is always based on feedback.
Like it or not people will treat it like it is set in stone and that is how the discussion will take place until new info arrives.
|
|
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3377
|
Posted - 2012.03.06 18:47:00 -
[21] - Quote
I think they are just going to refund Battlecruiser and Destroyer to 5 SP and give you a book based on your birth race for free.
|
Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin
186
|
Posted - 2012.03.06 18:48:00 -
[22] - Quote
While i agree the systems not equal currently, does this mean then when racial dessy/BC skill comes in which i have at 5, ccp will give me that sp back but then give me 4 new skill books to spend it on, replacing only one ship to lvl 5 and not being able to fly the others at all?
LAME |
Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
348
|
Posted - 2012.03.06 18:49:00 -
[23] - Quote
Alara you normally much such good posts. I'm disappointed that you had to be the one to start the GD whine thread.
Everyone chill the **** out. No plans are set in stone yet. |
Obsidian Hawk
RONA Corporation RONA Directorate
774
|
Posted - 2012.03.06 18:50:00 -
[24] - Quote
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=77673&find=unread keep all feedback there. |
Alara IonStorm
1730
|
Posted - 2012.03.06 18:52:00 -
[25] - Quote
Katrina Oniseki wrote:Alara you normally much such good posts. I'm disappointed that you had to be the one to start the GD whine thread. I am not whining, I am taking this in stride while new information is presented. Just a friendly warning that things are about to get real. (To use modern colloquialisms.)
Katrina Oniseki wrote: Everyone chill the **** out. No plans are set in stone yet.
I am chill but I will update the OP with this phrase. |
Fighter26
Orion's Fist RED.Legion
11
|
Posted - 2012.03.06 18:55:00 -
[26] - Quote
This is fine... if all players who have V's in unsplit skills get V's in the new ones. |
Mister Alt
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
|
Posted - 2012.03.06 19:01:00 -
[27] - Quote
I'm sorry, but to all those saying "chill, its not set in stone"...
How often do the peabrains that come up with this bollocks make significant changes once they've shown their complete failure to understand the problem? |
My Neutral Toon
Knights Who Til Recently Said Ni
18
|
Posted - 2012.03.06 19:01:00 -
[28] - Quote
Cyrus Deacon wrote:Jesus christ... Is this the prelude to "press a button and something awesome should happen" ?
Decreasing capital train time is the stupidest ******* idea since WiS
fr the millionth time
WiS was not a bag IDEA it was poorly implemented. Before WiS came out, the community was SCREAMING for it...
on topic:
this is pure retardation at its best. What possible 'game balance' is going to be achieved by this? other than making it easier to get into the ships that are supposed to be the hardest to fly? ...Can't. Tell. If ...Troll? Or Serious.... |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
271
|
Posted - 2012.03.06 19:02:00 -
[29] - Quote
A little cross posting (you really should go talk in the official thread if you have an opinion) to help quiet fear somewhat.
CCP Soundwave wrote:Smoking Blunts wrote:CCP Ytterbium wrote:The skill requirement changes for destroyers and battlecruisers is very tricky to tackle indeed. We fully acknowledge having to re-train for ships you can already fly is not appealing at all.
As said in the blog, nothing is set in stone yet, we are considering various reimbursement options as this is still quite a high level change.
it not just not appealing its crazy. pre patch i can fly all cs's and all dic's. post patch im ******. i either pick to fly a claymore or damnation or a vulture (eos is **** anyhow) and then im screwed for the next 80 odd days retraining for ships i could already fly. you either reduce the ranks of the destroyer and bc skills so reimbursed skill points from the old cover all 4 races, or you just give people all 4 races. We'll find a suitable reimbursement that makes everyone happy. I'm not terribly fussed about giving away a little extra if it moves we move the ship progression system into a better place.
FuzzWork Enterprises http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/ Blueprint calculator and other 'useful' utilities. |
Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
348
|
Posted - 2012.03.06 19:04:00 -
[30] - Quote
Alara IonStorm wrote: I am not whining, I am taking this in stride while new information is presented. Just a friendly warning that things are about to get real. (To use modern colloquialisms.) I am chill but I will update the OP with this phrase.
No, I know you are. I'm mostly referring to the other posters in this thread.
|
|
|
|
|
Pages: [1] 2 3 4 5 6 :: one page |
First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |