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Zorda
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Posted - 2008.05.28 20:03:00 -
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.06.01 05:18:00 -
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who needs sentries when you can just log off! oh then wait two minutes, log in and log off again and be in a safe spot and then just head on your way
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BlondieBC
7th Tribal Legion
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Posted - 2008.06.01 05:57:00 -
[63]
CCP please update.
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Frug
Repo Industries R.E.P.O.
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Posted - 2008.06.01 06:17:00 -
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This just isn't a pressing enough issue.
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Unreal5
Malicious Intentions
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Posted - 2008.06.01 06:36:00 -
[65]
no, they're fine as they are ASD |
Nick Bete
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Posted - 2008.06.05 18:00:00 -
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Boosting the pain of sentry guns would be a nice start towards decreasing the imbalanced higher risk of low sec, thus encouraging people to go there IMO. |
Kethry Avenger
Krell-Korp
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Posted - 2008.06.05 19:18:00 -
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I disagree, they hit pretty hard and thats in a T2 fitted BS.
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Arkady Sadik
Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2008.06.05 19:22:00 -
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AFAIK, sentries do 176 dps per gun, so in low-sec with two guns per gate, 352 dps. Damage type spread is quite ok (17% em, 17% ex, 33% ki, 33% th, IIRC). They have a 100% hit chance and an optimal of 150km or so, which makes their dps a good deal higher than the comparable dps of a BC/BS. I'd say they're at non-gank BS level, comparatively, which is ok. You need a dedicated tank on your bs to actually permanently tank them - or you spider tank. But they're not meant to pwn your bs when you get flagged, they're meant as a nuisance and anti-tackler weapon.
The biggest problem that makes sentries easily tankable is that they do not combine fire and cycle targets. If you have a few people in your fleet, you only have to survive 176 dps for 20 seconds. That's ridiculously low, and a spider tank can easily keep everyone alive. That is the problem with sentries.
Do not give unnecessary, additional bonuses to large groups. Make sentries shoot every flashy at a gate at the same time. Then, their current dps is just fine, and they work as a nice force mitigator.
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Elsebeth Rhiannon
Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2008.06.06 11:38:00 -
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Edited by: Elsebeth Rhiannon on 06/06/2008 11:39:10 Ok, this will sound real funny coming from an antipirate, but no, pls don't change low sec sentry guns much, they are quite fine as they are. They give some disadvantage to the initial aggressor, but do not turn the battle.
The only problem I see with them is that a large number of ships can tank the sentries by just having the large numbers. Make the guns concentrate fire, that'll take care of it.
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Akiba Penrose
PAK
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Posted - 2008.06.06 12:18:00 -
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Edited by: Akiba Penrose on 06/06/2008 12:22:02 Im a antipirate and id like to see the removal of sentrys in lw sec. They do not help the ones getting ganked in camps. All they do is act as an excuse for pirates to avoid players that actually wants to fight them. - - Falcons |
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Dav Varan
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Posted - 2008.06.06 13:05:00 -
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Having the sentry guns on your side is like having an indestructable battlecruiser on your side.
An Indestructable battlecruiser with perfect tracking I might add.
They stop Pie's from using nano ships and drones.
There good enough as they are.
Don't complain if you jump into a PvP area in a bear ship or untanked hauler and get ganked.
If your anti-pie then stop asking the game to do your work for you , whats the point in that ?
Gates are fine. Not Signed.
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DiamondEdges
Black Lotus Foundation Damned Pirates
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Posted - 2008.08.16 02:41:00 -
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Sentury guns even at 200 percent more dammage will not at all stop a camp. it will only stop SOME solo gankers from sitting on a gate flaged.
If you fear for your badger that much, go to high sec cause LOW SEC, is suppose to be LOW sec not high sec.
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DeviloftheHell
Caldari RaaFharaX Omega Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.16 10:52:00 -
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improve the guns arent necessary just dont go into lowsec whit badgers and etc if you are soo noob to let them to lock you its your problem cos some people too stupid for fit his/her ship for lowsec its their fault not the guns
pirate camps will going on if you make the guns more stronger but enough stronger the guys cos they arent destructable
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Somealt Ofmine
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Posted - 2008.08.16 14:16:00 -
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The reason that low-sec is dead right now is that it's imbalanced toward the pirates.
Try to do industry or NPCing out there and you're just a victim. Try to anti-pirate and you just go broke, because the pirates will just scatter when presented with anything close to an even fight and tend to drop crappy loot even when you do catch them out.
It collapsed for a reason, and that reason is not because the game mechanics make it too hard to pirate. Anything that starts to shift the balance from the outlaws back toward the citizens will help bring people back there.
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Somealt Ofmine
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Posted - 2008.08.16 14:20:00 -
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Originally by: DiamondEdges Sentury guns even at 200 percent more dammage will not at all stop a camp. it will only stop SOME solo gankers from sitting on a gate flaged.
If you fear for your badger that much, go to high sec cause LOW SEC, is suppose to be LOW sec not high sec.
You need to make up your mind. On one thread this morning you say "if you don't like it go to high-sec", on another you say "we have to find a way to get you out of high-sec".
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Maximillian Bayonette
White Lion Manufacture and Salvage
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Posted - 2008.08.16 15:58:00 -
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Not signed for already stated reasons.
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eliminator2
Gallente You're Doing It Wrong
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Posted - 2008.08.16 16:20:00 -
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I disagree with this low sec will be more useless and is there actually any pirates signing this or is it high sec livers wanting to pass through low sec with less gate camping?
and if you are signing this you should live in low sec to be able to signe it not jut random high sec/0.0 ***s
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Opertone
SIEGE. The Border Patrol
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Posted - 2008.08.17 22:57:00 -
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support
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Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2008.08.18 12:30:00 -
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**** off
SKUNK
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Rostran Targo
Minmatar Kinda'Shujaa
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Posted - 2008.08.18 12:59:00 -
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No Hey look! It's a signature!
http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sigs.html |
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Inertial
The Python Cartel
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Posted - 2008.08.18 13:31:00 -
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Originally by: Sariyah
As far as I can see some unidentified alts and whatnot can't understand that sentries WERE fine when they were introduced but we got more HP on the ships now. We have t2 modules. It's not about really 'buffing' sentry guns, it's adjusting them back to their original efficiency, or at least closer to that than they are now.
Ehgawd.
What you are claiming is basically that:
"Since this is how it used to be back in the day, this is how it should be now"
I am pretty sure this is some sort of chronological/historical/whatever fallacy, and since you are making one, I will too.
"Since human sacrfice used to be practiced in the past, we should start practicing human sacrificing"
I might also add:
"Lets start by sacrificing Sariyah(ingame)"
we are recruiting!
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Exlegion
New Light Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.18 14:20:00 -
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Agreed.
One of us equals many of us. Disrespect one of us, you'll see plenty of us. - Gang Starr |
ian666
Rave Technologies Inc. C0VEN
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Posted - 2008.08.18 16:26:00 -
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no, guns are already too strong
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Danjira Ryuujin
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Posted - 2008.08.18 23:04:00 -
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Edited by: Danjira Ryuujin on 18/08/2008 23:04:27 Yes, take a look at sentry guns please. If pirates had to scan people out instead of ****ing each other off all day at a gate camp, you might actually get more people INTO low sec. |
Daveydweeb
Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.08.19 05:50:00 -
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Originally by: Siona Windweaver I support it, also racial damage idea is good.
Not without a much more significant increase in DPS than has been suggested already. Omni-tanks are much less effective than one that's designed for just one or two damage types, so a mere ~150% increase in DPS output with a shift to racial damage types makes the change essentially meaningless.
That said, I support the concept in principle. |
Irongut
M'8'S Frontal Impact
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Posted - 2008.08.19 07:03:00 -
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Sentry guns are fine as they are. |
Malcanis
We are Legend eXceed.
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Posted - 2008.08.19 07:09:00 -
[87]
Replace or (enhance if you must) sentries with roving NPC patrols. |
Saraah Leeown
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Posted - 2008.08.19 12:01:00 -
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Why not increase the DPS but give them worse tracking? Or a larger signature resolution so smaller ships will still take some damage, but larger ships won't be able to just sit on the gate tanking the guns indefinitely.
I have no problems with gate camps etc, I just don't see how battleships etc should be able to sit on a gate, perma-tanking the guns while smartbombing with relative impunity. |
Farrqua
Minmatar Turbo Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.08.19 16:22:00 -
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Yea OK, If you make it too hard to tank in the ships currently camping the gates, you will see a return of the Mizh Smarty gate camps. (You know the one where he sits on the Hek gate in Otou in his Nyx and kills everything with in reach?) Then you get to see all the wonderful whine posts of "I was not even out of warp and I got killed why?!!"
And as far as getting more people into low-sec. You have to be kidding. There is nothing in low-sec to get the people into the damn belts. All you are doing is setting up a JB jewperhighway type network that makes the haulers as safe as they were in High sec.
Increase the value of the belts and then maybe it would make some sense.
Plus is you remember they buffed the guns already and reduced the shield recharge and resists on the ships. |
RuleoftheBone
Minmatar Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.08.19 22:56:00 -
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Originally by: Ameliorate Biased support: I am sick of gate camps popping my unscouted Badgers and everything else.
Not supported in the slightest.
Any support for this is simply based on variations of above-quoted individual (yeah I modified the post a smidge ).
Also...LOL thread.
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