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CCP Wrangler
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Posted - 2008.05.22 19:40:00 -
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"The strength of an Army lies in strict discipline and undeviating obedience to its officers." ~ Thucydides
And what would Empyrean Age be without ranks anyway? Probably a bit chaotic, though has there ever been any wars without chaos anyway? Ginger explains the process from idea to reality, and where most work went on this part of the Factional Warfare feature, which may be a bit surprising. This is the third blog in our Empyrean Age series: Empyrean Age and all that - Ranks, by Ginger.
Wrangler Community Manager CCP Games, EVE Online Email / Netfang
"It's not worth doing something unless you are doing something that someone, somewhere, would much rather you weren't doing." |
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.05.22 19:49:00 -
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but i want to be a bloody fist of matar
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Thurisaz Prizma
Stronghold of Agony
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Posted - 2008.05.22 19:52:00 -
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1st Templar sounds awesome tbh... Love your way to type Ginger, I even managed to giggle a bit...
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acompton
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Posted - 2008.05.22 20:02:00 -
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Wait a minute, I thought the Templar is an Amarr fighter drone?
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Helison
Times of Ancar Pure.
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Posted - 2008.05.22 20:02:00 -
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Yeah? Did I miss the real Dev-Blog?
Btw: Will it be possible to use the rank-system in any way for (player-)corps and alliances?
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CCP Ginger
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Posted - 2008.05.22 20:18:00 -
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Originally by: Helison Yeah? Did I miss the real Dev-Blog?
Btw: Will it be possible to use the rank-system in any way for (player-)corps and alliances?
The plan for the future is to introduce a full blown medal system for players to use, aye.
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Kudon Astraisx
17th Minmatar Tactical Wing Electus Matari
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Posted - 2008.05.22 20:20:00 -
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Ah, maybe I'm missing it, but this appears to just say "we're going to have ranks, here are some cool ones you didn't get."
When do we get the lists? :) --
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Treelox
Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party
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Posted - 2008.05.22 20:22:00 -
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I do hope some bright person already has ordered metal lapel type pins, of the ranks for purchase through the eve-store. --
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Tsanse Kinske
WeMeanYouKnowHarm
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Posted - 2008.05.22 20:22:00 -
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Ginger, I just want to say that you are the funniest dev evar. * * * In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.
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Akiba Penrose
PAK
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Posted - 2008.05.22 20:35:00 -
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lol,, "Bloody fist of Matar".
Does this mean that the regular faction standings dont get affected by FW?
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Avtambaram
Aliastra
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Posted - 2008.05.22 20:37:00 -
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Questions:- 1. Is the first rank image (one with the shield) meant for Gallente rank 0? 2. Why do Matari and Amarr rank 1 have the coolest images? 3. Will the other nine ranks for each militia have a different image?
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Phthonos Nemesis
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Posted - 2008.05.22 20:43:00 -
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If the Minnies had gotten "Bloody Fist of Matar", the the Gallente surely should have had "Perfumed Gauntlet of the Federation".
"Imperial Golden Hoodie"? "Polished Jackboot of the State"?
Fun times.
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Breal D'nie
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Posted - 2008.05.22 21:00:00 -
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Good read Ginger, I'm liking it so far.
Question tho, the rank symbols will be a build off the last rank for each or completely new? ie: additional stripe or wing for each rank?
Im really excited for FW to come out, even if i don't join. think of the markets and the trit prices. This is obviously y the cap was removed, correct?
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Inoue Zael
Sa'ju Kal
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Posted - 2008.05.22 21:01:00 -
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the gallente should have gotten Freedom Fries of the Federation (extra large)
What does Jury rigging V do?
Originally by: Viqtoria make courtrooms swing in your favour more often.
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Shionoya Risa
The Xenodus Initiative. Overclockers Podpilot Services
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Posted - 2008.05.22 21:01:00 -
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Quote: In future expansions of Factional Warfare we are going to look at linking additional functionality and rewards into ranks like (and these are not promises, just current ideas) tying them into dungeons in space and adding additional equipment and ships to the loyalty store that will only be available at certain ranks.
Welcome to EVE: WoW Edition.
This is such a crap idea it's unbelievable to be very honest with you, but with the other ideas coming out of CCP today, it's hardly surprising. -----
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Kethry Avenger
Krell-Korp
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Posted - 2008.05.22 21:13:00 -
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And how do you earn standings with your militia exactly? I'm guessing by doing the FW missions but do you get anything for getting Victory Points or for blowing up other players?
Oh and hurry up and figure out medals.
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Inoue Zael
Sa'ju Kal
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Posted - 2008.05.22 21:14:00 -
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i personally think standings gain should have a heavy emphasis on player combat, or at least missions that involve lots of player activity (which i assume most do anyway)
What does Jury rigging V do?
Originally by: Viqtoria make courtrooms swing in your favour more often.
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Encephalia Prototype
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Posted - 2008.05.22 21:27:00 -
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I have a nagging suspicion that if there is any per-player-kill reward (standing gain, etc.), that it will be partially based on the rank of that player. |
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CCP Ginger
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Posted - 2008.05.22 21:28:00 -
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Originally by: Avtambaram Questions:- 1. Is the first rank image (one with the shield) meant for Gallente rank 0?
Its actually rank 3.
Originally by: Avtambaram
2. Why do Matari and Amarr rank 1 have the coolest images?
I actually think there all rather cool.
Originally by: Avtambaram
3. Will the other nine ranks for each militia have a different image?
Each rank has a separate image.
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CCP Ginger
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Posted - 2008.05.22 21:29:00 -
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Originally by: Kudon Astraisx Ah, maybe I'm missing it, but this appears to just say "we're going to have ranks, here are some cool ones you didn't get."
When do we get the lists? :)
Actually seeing as it is out on Sisi, let me see what I can swing.
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CCP Ginger
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Posted - 2008.05.22 21:33:00 -
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Originally by: Phthonos Nemesis "Perfumed Gauntlet of the Federation".
lol.
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Gridwalker
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Posted - 2008.05.22 21:50:00 -
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Originally by: Shionoya Risa
Quote: In future expansions of Factional Warfare we are going to look at linking additional functionality and rewards into ranks like (and these are not promises, just current ideas) tying them into dungeons in space and adding additional equipment and ships to the loyalty store that will only be available at certain ranks.
Welcome to EVE: WoW Edition.
This is such a crap idea it's unbelievable to be very honest with you, but with the other ideas coming out of CCP today, it's hardly surprising.
Oh, I wouldn't go THAT far--and if you read any of my 4000 posts on the last dev blog comment thread, you know I can go pretty darn far. ;-)
But I do agree that it does sound like EVE is getting "levels" and level-locked items. Slippery path. I would have expected ranks to be "achievement based" and not grinding-standings based.
-Grid
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Pang Grohl
Sudo Corp
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Posted - 2008.05.22 21:52:00 -
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Originally by: Akiba Penrose lol,, "Bloody fist of Matar".
Does this mean that the regular faction standings dont get affected by FW?
I'm not sure but, I recall from the live dev blog that it was stated that killing navy npcs will still have the same effect on standings. It could be that killing militia players won't have that effect, but I doubt it. *** Si non adjuvas, noces (If you're not helping, you're hurting)
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Hass Fresson
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Posted - 2008.05.22 22:02:00 -
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Quote: In future expansions of Factional Warfare we are going to look at linking additional functionality and rewards into ranks like (and these are not promises, just current ideas) tying them into dungeons in space and adding additional equipment and ships to the loyalty store that will only be available at certain ranks.
Welcome to EVE: WoW Edition.
Quote: This is such a crap idea it's unbelievable to be very honest with you, but with the other ideas coming out of CCP today, it's hardly surprising.
But I do agree that it does sound like EVE is getting "levels" and level-locked items. Slippery path. I would have expected ranks to be "achievement based" and not grinding-standings based.
it seems to me that availability is rank based, but I don't think that every officer item out there was found by the person using it....
Hass
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Larice
Seven Provinces
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Posted - 2008.05.22 22:03:00 -
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Originally by: Phthonos Nemesis If the Minnies had gotten "Bloody Fist of Matar", the the Gallente surely should have had "Perfumed Gauntlet of the Federation".
"Imperial Golden Hoodie"? "Polished Jackboot of the State"?
Fun times.
This had me snickering for ten minutes!
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Gridwalker
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Posted - 2008.05.22 22:19:00 -
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Originally by: Hass Fresson it seems to me that availability is rank based, but I don't think that every officer item out there was found by the person using it....
Well, let's look at the "troubling" quote:
Originally by: CCP Ginger In future expansions of Factional Warfare we are going to look at linking additional functionality and rewards into ranks like (and these are not promises, just current ideas) tying them into dungeons in space and adding additional equipment and ships to the loyalty store that will only be available at certain ranks.
It's hard to interpret what this means. Saying "only be available at certain ranks" could mean they can only be obtained from the store at certain ranks, but it could also imply they can only be used at certain ranks.
He also states "additional functionality", which could imply skills or other bonuses. And "tying them into dungeons in space" could imply locking some dungeons based on rank.
Now I know he said these are just "thoughts", and nothing that has been actually implemented yet, but it is troubling. It appears that these thoughts are demonstrating a movement towards a more traditional MMO model. Militia standings are experience points, ranks are levels. Certain equipment is only available to certain ranks, maybe even certain abilities. Areas are locked off if you aren't high enough rank. It's just a troubling train of thought.
I would rather make a little noise now, before they become reality, than wait until they are deployed on SiSi ready for deployment. ;)
-Grid
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Ki Tarra
Ki Tech Industries
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Posted - 2008.05.22 22:39:00 -
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So other than the cool logo and the funky title, what do you gain from your rank in Empyrean Age?
I read that there are plans for adding stuff in future expansions, but what will we get in this expansion beyond a head start to accessing stuff in the distant future?
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Dr Slaughter
Rabies Inc.
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Posted - 2008.05.22 23:01:00 -
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Am I the only one who has 'issues' with the rank titles? I don't want to sound ungrateful at all the effort you've put in.. but.. ... we're flying spaceships and someone mentioned swords and a certain Greek shield. Kinda makes me feel I'm playing a game that should have orcs in it or, at least, the black knight.
I know many ship names are based on mythological names but what's wrong with using something more conventional
Linkage
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for amar etc.
as a basis and 'tune' from there? !! while (my.ship.cloak == true) my.local == false
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Kudon Astraisx
17th Minmatar Tactical Wing Electus Matari
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Posted - 2008.05.22 23:08:00 -
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Those were the titles they discussed and rejected, not the ones they chose. --
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Karn Mithralia
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.05.22 23:13:00 -
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Edited by: Karn Mithralia on 22/05/2008 23:13:44
Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton but i want to be a bloody fist of matar
There's only one way to get this - join Ushra'Khan.
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