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Darquies Shade
Hematite Rose Bionic Dawn
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Posted - 2008.05.22 22:41:00 -
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kinda like a moble warp disruptor bubble, but it generates dead-space, which cancels all micro warp drives. this would help the nano issue and increase AB use. I say use the same concept as the moble warp disruption bubble with the fact it generates like a sphereical are of effect. and as soon as a ship hits the "bubble" it's micro warp drive shuts off(and cannot be used in the area effect of the bubble). Also give the dead space generator bubble about the same are of effect as the moble warp drive bubbles Small DS Gens: 4k area effect Med DS Gens: 12k area effect Large DS Gens: 36k area effect
anyhow i can't take credit for this idea, a corpmate(tristel) was talkin about it. And i Really like the idea.
what do you all think? ________________________________________________ I Protect The Helpless From The Heartless
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Sir Substance
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Posted - 2008.05.23 02:56:00 -
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i like it, but not as a module. that would make the MWD simply useless, as it would no longer be a safe thing to use in PvP either. you just wouldnt know if your enemy had one of these, so you wouldn't take the risk of fitting an MWD
but as a POS module, i like it.
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xena zena
Catalyst Corporation Dominatus Phasmatis
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Posted - 2008.05.23 02:58:00 -
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I would like it as a HIC script... but it should make the HIC pretty unprotected during it's use, maybe immobile too.
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Reggie Stoneloader
Teikoku Trade Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.05.23 06:13:00 -
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Yeah, HIC script is an awesome way to bring this to bear, and the effect would be very desirable. I'd like to see it operate in low-sec as well as 0.0, just give the guy deploying it an aggression flag and sec loss as though he'd shot at everyone affected by the field.
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Lusulpher
Raddick Explorations
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Posted - 2008.05.23 08:39:00 -
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The 2 types of fields cannot interplay I hope, or you would have just created a an I-win button.
2 HICs, 1 with a bubble and 1, a Deadspacer...no hope,no escape camping.
I like the idea though, but without meaningful web boost nanos won't be balanced out properly, this field would kill expensive and specialized****abonds with a push. Not cool Live and Let Die...All of it...null |
xena zena
Catalyst Corporation Dominatus Phasmatis
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Posted - 2008.05.23 08:59:00 -
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Originally by: Lusulpher The 2 types of fields cannot interplay I hope, or you would have just created a an I-win button.
2 HICs, 1 with a bubble and 1, a Deadspacer...no hope,no escape camping.
I like the idea though, but without meaningful web boost nanos won't be balanced out properly, this field would kill expensive and specialized****abonds with a push. Not cool
Naa... just make one bubble type have priority, so it's affect is what you experience if you fly in the radius of two types. Like say the warp disrupt is highest priority... Combining more then one bubble type would be yea.. definitely I win. Now a decloaking script too! Decloak, no MWD and no warp. go go. :P and how about a web script as well. :P
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Vardemis
Jericho Fraction
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Posted - 2008.05.23 10:55:00 -
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Any way to create deadspace would make it even easier for territorial alliances to stop any raids into their space.
Right now smaller gangs can only be successful against a well setup entity by using a very fast gang that is able to disengage when confronted by far superior numbers or even capital ships in a cyno jammed system.
Once that is settled, I wouldn't mind a method to reduce the effectiveness of a MWD, although I am not sure this would be the right way to go.
The problem I see with the ranges you mentioned is that the small and medium version allows your gang to use their MWD while still in scrambling range, while the enemy is trapped inside. Which is the same as generating some sort of a web-sphere for all ships inside, as long as they have a MWD.
Overall I think the idea itself is quite nice and original, but with the game mechanics we have at the moment it wouldn't do the game anything good.
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Darquies Shade
Hematite Rose Bionic Dawn
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Posted - 2008.05.23 21:40:00 -
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Originally by: Sir Substance i like it, but not as a module. that would make the MWD simply useless, as it would no longer be a safe thing to use in PvP either. you just wouldnt know if your enemy had one of these, so you wouldn't take the risk of fitting an MWD
but as a POS module, i like it.
no no no, i think you misunderstood me, this is not a ship modual. It works just like a mobile warp disrupton bubble. you gotta anchor it and activate it. and i agree a moble warp disruption bubble and a dead space gen bubble can't be side to side, or else they would cancel the other out. basically the bubbles cannot touch, that way, you could have one or the other. and a HIc cannot launch thier bubble right by it either. Basically folks, think warp bubbles, but it only affects mwd's ________________________________________________ I Protect The Helpless From The Heartless
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Reggie Stoneloader
Teikoku Trade Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.05.29 03:14:00 -
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I'd rather see it as a quickly-deployable countermeasure that can be neutralized in battle, like the HIC. If you have to anchor it, then it'll only ever be used in gate camps. It should be something that you can bust out in a fight when there's a need for it, but not easy to use to fortify. Maybe you use it, it runs for thirty seconds, then it turns off and can't be used again for one minute. If you try using it at a gate to catch incoming ships, they can just uncloak and zip away one at a time, and you'll have to choose between catching the first ones, whereupon the others will hold cloak until you bubble's exhausted and then dash for it, or you can wait and catch the later bunch, at the expense of letting the first wave through.
Anchoring is for camps. Make it a probe for dictors and a script for HICs.
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Guns nButter
The Nietzian Way Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.29 06:36:00 -
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Originally by: Reggie Stoneloader Anchoring is for camps. Make it a probe for dictors and a script for HICs.
qft. signed.
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Dirk Fallows
Galley-la
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Posted - 2008.05.29 11:26:00 -
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Originally by: Guns nButter
Originally by: Reggie Stoneloader Anchoring is for camps. Make it a probe for dictors and a script for HICs.
qft. signed.
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Rakshasa Taisab
Sane Industries Inc. Ursa Stellar Initiative
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Posted - 2008.05.29 11:44:00 -
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Or just make warp bubbles affect MWD's... After all, MWD's work by warping. ---
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Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
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Posted - 2008.05.29 12:48:00 -
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Same issues as with web bubbles really, they shouldnŠt be able to be deployed within sya 50km of each other :P
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Jason Edwards
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Posted - 2008.05.29 14:18:00 -
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I see this going through in 3 different ways.
1. Your way ofcoarse. I like it. 2. Area of effect webber so everyone is stopped equally. My idea I posted and not a single person commented on :( 3. To kill 2 birds with 1 stone. Deal with the fact that titans doomsdays are smoking fleets with ease just because there's 2 or more titans. The idea would be that if 2 or more titans use their doomsday close together a blackhole is formed and causes a massive webber effect on everything and even warp disrupts the supercaps and caps. ------------------------ "There was this bright flash of light - and now this egg shaped thing is on my screen - did I level up?" |
Dr Clay
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Posted - 2008.05.29 14:51:00 -
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Originally by: Rakshasa Taisab Or just make warp bubbles affect MWD's... After all, MWD's work by warping.
You mean they don't already?
*facepalm*
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Doddy
Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.05.29 14:55:00 -
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I like the idea of it being on a hic as it means that the nano gang can still disengage (they will be able to get away from the slower hic) or if they have the firepower they can go for it and kill the hic knowing they are vulnerable till its dead. Assuming the hvy dictor cant be remote repped it should be fairly balanced.
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Sephrin
Imperium Forces Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.05.30 14:31:00 -
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Originally by: Rakshasa Taisab Or just make warp bubbles affect MWD's... After all, MWD's work by warping.
No I-Win buttons please,
I think everyone can agree that if warp bubbles affected MWD's small gang warfare in 0.0 would be finished off. not to mention giving an even bigger advantage to the system holder in fleet battles. Yeah lets make it so 100 BS have to slowboat it at 140k sec out of a 54k bubble while the other fleet is pounding away at it, there is a reason MWDs are REQUIRED on fleet ships. So many issues with that, there is a reason that it is the way it is.
On another note, a area affect webber would be cool, but it needs to take time and planning, else it kills alot of ships, and lets not turn this into another anti-nano thread please, we need to be able to defend against nano ships, without making it a I-Win against nano ships thing.
I think it would be cool to have a actual deadspace generator with which you would have to deploy a acceleration gate, useful for mining op defense and such things.
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