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Sombra Escarlate
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.02 09:35:00 -
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Edited by: Sombra Escarlate on 02/08/2009 09:36:43 its theft that should have concequences for the offender i agree with the offender being flagged to the killed and the pilots on the kill mail and also getting a timer so they cant dock or jump for 60 seconds \o/
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Trinity Nova
Amarr Unaccompanied Souls
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Posted - 2009.08.02 11:04:00 -
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Originally by: Awesome Possum Ridiculous. You may have blown up a ship, but the modules inside the wreck are still not yours. If your loot alt isn't fast enough to scoop it up, that's your own fault.
Hey warfighter take a break you don't have to be a r3tard every time you make a post. Solo Blog
Solo Corp
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Rakshasa Taisab
Caldari Sane Industries Inc. Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2009.08.02 12:34:00 -
[483]
Originally by: Sombra Escarlate Edited by: Sombra Escarlate on 02/08/2009 09:36:43 its theft that should have concequences for the offender i agree with the offender being flagged to the killed and the pilots on the kill mail and also getting a timer so they cant dock or jump for 60 seconds \o/
Stealing loot should flag one for _ALL_ players in system, cause you know stealing loot is wrong.
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LaVista Vista
Conservative Shenanigans Party
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Posted - 2009.08.02 12:41:00 -
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Originally by: The Jackhammer
'VERBAL' tips don't pay the bills
Wars don't pay the bills. I think that's simple logic.
CCP has already stated that they aren't going to change this, in case people didn't notice.
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Xorth Adimus
The Perfect Storm Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2009.08.02 13:02:00 -
[485]
I agree on the npc corp issue it is an alt abuse imo and I would go further.
Anyone not in corp taking from your wreck should be flagged in any system including 0.0 as an agressive act, Ie they can't jump immediatly.
Killrights should not be given in 0.0 as is correct however an eve mail should sent to the owner so you can find and shame/ kill the little ****.
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sukmanobov
Minmatar Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.03 10:57:00 -
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Originally by: Slade Trillgon How about coding something that does not allow NPC corp pilots to loot any PC wreck that they are not on the killmail for or any NPC wreck that they did not contribute damage to. This would solve a few issues.
Don't know if this is possible, but it is an idea that I have not seen mentioned in my scanning.
Slade
They would just move to a player corp.
they would also just rotate corps to keep from being decced. Main + Alt = 6 possible corps tha gotta be over 1bill to dec all six :( --------------------------------
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Dark Threat
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Posted - 2009.08.03 15:28:00 -
[487]
AGREE!
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Silmaire
Privateers
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Posted - 2009.08.04 01:50:00 -
[488]
/agreed
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Eato
Wrath of Fenris
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Posted - 2009.08.04 17:32:00 -
[489]
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Awesome Possum
Insert Obscure Latin Name
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Posted - 2009.08.05 01:54:00 -
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Originally by: The Jackhammer
Originally by: Awesome Possum Damn straight, gratuities are for above par service. I'm not paying someone's wages for vanilla waitressing, that's the restaurant's job.
If you/they don't like it, get a job that pays more than $2/hr.
Thats just showing how ignorant you are ...
1. You've obviously never had to work for tips (ie. someone elses generosity)
2. If you can't afford to tip .. stay your cheap ass home.
3. Servers/bartenders have to pay taxes on what they sell REGUARDLESS of wether you tip or not
4. As for working a 2$/hr job ... if they took away tipping that wage would drastically go up ... along with meals/drinks AND you couldn't afford to go out in the first place ... which obviously you can't do .. so save the headache .. SEE #2
... Back to the topic
Yay thread derailment!
Ignorance is a lack of knowledge. I'm fully aware of whiny waitstaff arguments for tipping.
1. You're right, because I prefer to be paid what I'm worth, not have to rely on the pity of people I'm hauling food and drinks to.
2. I can afford to tip, and I do tip a minimum of 20%.. for those who earn it with superior service. And you know what? If you consistently go to a restaurant, and consistently tip great service, and blow off bad service... people catch on.
3. They have to admit to the tips first before they can pay taxes on 'em. How many waiters can you name that only claim tips that are paper trailed via credit cards? I can name... well every waiter friend I've ever had.
4. Insults get you no where in a debate. You're ugly, obviously you're all about mandatory gratuities and cashing out, since pretty waiters get tipped more often and in higher amounts. ♥
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Pawus Deco
Scalar Tech
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Posted - 2009.08.11 19:40:00 -
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/signed
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Epegi Givo
Araja clan
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Posted - 2009.08.12 06:38:00 -
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Most people will say "Hey, if you kill someone IRL, all their stuff wouldn't go to you, it would go to his family (Which a corp is as close as pod-pilots come to families).
However, this isn't RL. This is internet spaceships. Yes, the current mechanic is dumb.
yes, this idea is a great improvement. ------------------------------------- My other alt is a Ferrari
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Lilith Wolf
Temporary Stasis
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Posted - 2009.08.21 09:52:00 -
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Edited by: Lilith Wolf on 21/08/2009 09:52:44
How about we get a statement from CCP ? This bull**** has been in the Game for far to long.
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Pherusa Plumosa
Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.08.22 00:12:00 -
[494]
+1 __________________________________________________
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zombiedeadhead
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2009.08.22 06:01:00 -
[495]
Signed.
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Audi Amarr
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.23 12:25:00 -
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Originally by: Scagga Laebetrovo Edited by: Scagga Laebetrovo on 23/05/2008 12:06:25 Personally I don't think so. Strictly speaking, these 'spoils of battle' do not change ownership just because you blow their ships up. Think about it, how can you put a claim on something before you've grabbed it off the enemy carcass?
edit: grammar
Shut it ^
Agreed on both topics posted: If you loot the ship, you should be Flagged by Everyone on the Killmail, lets keep it fair. This should also flag you and start an Aggression countdown not allowing you to run and Dock right away.
CCP youÆre playing too hard for the Carebare, we also play and have rights. Consider this on your next Nerf/Decision plz.
"To Punish and Enslave - The True Amarr Way"
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Dalwin
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Posted - 2009.08.23 17:19:00 -
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Originally by: Skogen Gump I definitely support this. Whilst I agree there should be some moderation in what you can actually do, wreck looting is a punishment-less crime at the moment.
For example, in Frarn there is a rogue looter who steals items from LVL4 missions, apparently by scanning them down. How can this be fair to the person running the mission?
Someone suggested that it makes sense that you can't 'claim' something you've just killed, but I'm sure you could call it in terms of Salvage rights - perhaps this could be a voluntary thing ? you can opt to let anyone loot your wrecks, or that it only be members of you gang/corp/alliance ?
Anyway - I strongly support this, it's incredibly frustrating to have your loot pinched.
I agree with the OP fully, but also like your idea about being able to waive your loot rights. It is pretty common that I am mining in and area where I leave behind a bunch of npc wrecks that I have no intention of picking up.
I'd just as soon give them to someone else, or even just open them to all comers.
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Dalwin
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Posted - 2009.08.23 17:24:00 -
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Edited by: Dalwin on 23/08/2009 17:25:53
Originally by: Sigul Siento Edited by: Sigul Siento on 23/05/2008 13:18:13
Originally by: The Jackhammer
Then why is it when someone loots from an NPC wreck i've risked my ship to kill is FLAGGED to me ...
PLEASE ... TELL me the difference ...
/support
The DIFFERENCE, is that NPC's are there to provide pve. It would be meaningless if dead NPC's should have the lootrights to their own wrecks.
But why should you get rights to the loot of someone you just attacked? It would make no sense if the game mechanics were to say that the wreckage/loot of a player ship blown up as a result of unprovoked aggression were to belong to the aggressor.
The system is fine as it is.
Your reply would make more sense if the looter were at least in the original victim's corp or possibly even alliance.
The complaint here is that a unrelated 3rd party is able to safely steal from a wreck to which he clearly has no right at all.
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Yakov Draken
Tides Of War
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Posted - 2009.08.23 21:16:00 -
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Edited by: Yakov Draken on 23/08/2009 21:16:09 Supported
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Mace Gando
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Posted - 2009.08.29 20:38:00 -
[500]
i totally agree happened to me when i pirated all the time
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Berdoff Manard
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Posted - 2009.08.29 22:31:00 -
[501]
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Berdoff Manard
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Posted - 2009.08.29 22:31:00 -
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oops I forgot the checkbox
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Marlona Sky
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.08.30 00:17:00 -
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Edited by: Marlona Sky on 30/08/2009 00:20:38 If you ever stepped foot into low sec, 0.0 or wormhole space, then you would be able to shoot them if you wanted.
Have you guys ever tried those areas of the game?
EDIT: On another note, it is your own fault anyways. You normally have 20 people there for the one kill and alts not in privateers to remote rep you guys, so between the 30+ people you have there to loot the wreck it is snatched up my some other guy, then good for that other guy for actually dragging and dropping faster.
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The PitBoss
Caldari Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.30 03:42:00 -
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Edited by: The PitBoss on 30/08/2009 03:46:21
Originally by: Marlona Sky Have you guys ever tried those areas of the game?
Why when we can take ships from you guys without having to travel: CLICKY
1 year 3 months / 17 pages of replies / this thread ... Funny you didn't have anything constructive to say UNTIL our war dec went active
BTW: Fail attempt on making this a Privateer issue rather than a game mechanic issue ...
Thank-You,
The Pitboss (Space between The & Pitboss)
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Marlona Sky
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.08.30 15:15:00 -
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Originally by: The PitBoss Edited by: The PitBoss on 30/08/2009 03:46:21
Originally by: Marlona Sky Have you guys ever tried those areas of the game?
Why when we can take ships from you guys without having to travel: CLICKY
1 year 3 months / 17 pages of replies / this thread ... Funny you didn't have anything constructive to say UNTIL our war dec went active
BTW: Fail attempt on making this a Privateer issue rather than a game mechanic issue ...
My appologies on not using kid gloves on this thread. I was simply being blunt on the facts. Let me rephrase in a more loving and less offensive way so no parties that read this do not get @#$%hurt over it.
Like in all games, the mechanics of the game have to have a balance to them. Pro's and Con's if you will.
Empire war decs have the leasure of being able to eliminate most peoples involvment in your combat because they can't shoot or they will be Concorded you see? Thus for those parties not involved in the war dec are very limited in what they can do outside of just watching the fight. They can assist one of the parties and become flagged and be a part of the fight, or they can try thier luck and see if they can 'steal' from a wreck of one of the victims of the battle. I am sure there are some other ways but back to my point.
By stealing, they are flagged to the owner of the wreck and the corp the owner is part of, provided it is not a npc corp. This can be done by simply dragging and dropping the items from the wreck to thier own cargo bay. Just like the attacker can do.
By your suggestion, they would become flagged not only to the owners corporation but to those involved in killing said person as well. This would throw off the balance of high sec war decs. Your suggestion would gear this mechanic more towards "Hello Kitty" style game play or like when two WoW players drop a flag and duel. Extremely boring.
The current mechanic works fine. If you want the loot, simply be faster at stealing. After all, they are stealing from the owner of the wreck, not you. There is no major issue (if any) at all.
No support.
BTW: 1 year 3 months / 17 pages of replies / this thread ... Privateers have war deced TRI well more than just this one time. I promise you it is coincidence that I replied during one of your alliances war decs on us. I was compeled to be blunt about the fact of that out of all the people who could have stolen the loot from the privateers side they are complaining about neutral parties stealing before them. So enough of the kill mail linking, spinning of words, desperate attempts to turn attention away from the fact that because someone was able to drag and drop faster than you, you want a game mechanic changed.
I hope this reply was more affectionate and loving and no feeling were hurt in the process. I you still feel that you need to link more killboards, or discuss your war decs, no one is stoping you from starting a thread on COAD.
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Slave 775
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2009.09.04 13:31:00 -
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Edited by: Slave 775 on 04/09/2009 13:31:00
Originally by: Marlona Sky Edited by: Marlona Sky on 01/09/2009 12:41:18
By your suggestion, they would become flagged not only to the owners corporation but to those involved in killing said person as well. This would throw off the balance of high sec war decs. Your suggestion would gear this mechanic more towards "Hello Kitty" style game play or like when two WoW players drop a flag and duel. Extremely boring.
Please excuse my harsh words, if your responce was ironic or sarcastic and i didn't notice it.
But this is by far the dumbest thing i saw in this whole thread. Not thinking much lately aren't we ?
Centuries ago, the Bible warned of dangers posed by evil men described as master[s] at evil ideas and scheming to do bad. (Proverbs 24:8) PRIVATEERS Officialy nerfed by CCP 05/07 |
Tiny Tove
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Posted - 2009.09.04 14:01:00 -
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Edited by: Tiny Tove on 04/09/2009 14:04:20 This is about dual pvp wreck ownership yes? Yes. Good. Support that. It would be a great step forward, with no drawbacks.
Edit: No, it's about parallel or multiple wreck ownership. Still Supported!
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Marlona Sky
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.09.04 15:15:00 -
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Originally by: Slave 775 Edited by: Slave 775 on 04/09/2009 13:31:00
Originally by: Marlona Sky Edited by: Marlona Sky on 01/09/2009 12:41:18
By your suggestion, they would become flagged not only to the owners corporation but to those involved in killing said person as well. This would throw off the balance of high sec war decs. Your suggestion would gear this mechanic more towards "Hello Kitty" style game play or like when two WoW players drop a flag and duel. Extremely boring.
Please excuse my harsh words, if your responce was ironic or sarcastic and i didn't notice it.
But this is by far the dumbest thing i saw in this whole thread. Not thinking much lately aren't we ?
Nice informative reply.
I am simply saying because some one steals faster than you, you want a game mechanic change implimented.
That is the OP's argument correct? I mean take away all the sugar coating and fluff and that is what is left. Correct me if I am wrong.
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Sanguis Fluibant
The Guiding Greg Social and Best Friend Club
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Posted - 2009.09.05 20:09:00 -
[509]
/signed
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ElCholo
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2009.09.21 23:54:00 -
[510]
I support this cause / post.
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