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Zeomebuch Nova
Metalworks
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Posted - 2012.03.08 19:31:00 -
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Brek'Diel Prophet wrote:he has an alt or something in jita telling people about this deal. so i figured id catch him in the act. well like you said this is eve. politics suck don't they.
Bro, your OP suggests you are weak to reverse psychology. Over. |
Darius III
Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
999
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Posted - 2012.03.09 07:48:00 -
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OP was VERY weak to reverse psychology, and easily taken. Also he raged a bit. Not as much as the guy who reported me as an ISK seller though...Speaking of which, I havent seen him online, wonder where he went? CCP and even the CSM have a lot of hardworking men and women who are very intelligent, working on making New Eden a better place-it is CCP management that I fear the most. D3 for CSM7 Direct link-á http://community.eveonline.com/council/voting/Vote.asp?c=480 |
Xen Solarus
Inner 5phere
19
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Posted - 2012.03.09 08:01:00 -
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The CSM should be filled with people of the highest calibre. You, sir, are a filthy scammer, and dirty the CSM with your presence. |
Tallian Saotome
Fractured Core Fatal Ascension
427
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Posted - 2012.03.09 08:05:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote:Darius III clubs baby seals, throws rock laden bags of kittens in the middle of lakes, and is a pinko commie. For the previous sentence's reasons stated many in Null Sec will vote for him to be a CSM... lol Null Sec is filled with arse hats which lower the property values of Empire whenever they move/ get chased out to HI SEC so I hope they buff anoms back up so they stay the heck out of my farming of Incursions You do realize D3 is the leader of an alliance that got chased out of null, right? Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom. |
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
60
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Posted - 2012.03.09 08:15:00 -
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Tallian Saotome wrote:DarthNefarius wrote:Darius III clubs baby seals, throws rock laden bags of kittens in the middle of lakes, and is a pinko commie. For the previous sentence's reasons stated many in Null Sec will vote for him to be a CSM... lol Null Sec is filled with arse hats which lower the property values of Empire whenever they move/ get chased out to HI SEC so I hope they buff anoms back up so they stay the heck out of my farming of Incursions You do realize D3 is the leader of an alliance that got chased out of null, right?
Yes I do and I wish they would go back we don't want them here in Empire they stink worse then Gallente & property values have been dropping like crazy!!! They are like the homeless people that communities give 1 way bus tickets to for free to get rid of them so the next community has to deal with them |
Xyla Vulchanus
Havoc Violence and Chaos BricK sQuAD.
7
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Posted - 2012.03.09 08:31:00 -
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Rather than making a whiny post about this in the forums, it would probably be more effective to contact Darius's alliance leadership who I am sure (if they are rational, mature and well adjusted people) will take a dim view of these antics and kick him from the alliance. |
Signal11th
436
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Posted - 2012.03.09 09:02:00 -
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Xen Solarus wrote:The CSM should be filled with people of the highest calibre. You, sir, are a filthy scammer, and dirty the CSM with your presence.
Lol, best joke I've seen on these forums for a while. Nice one. God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!"-á I came second and won a toaster. |
Nirnias Stirrum
Ore Mongers BricK sQuAD.
25
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Posted - 2012.03.09 09:36:00 -
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Chased out of null? Last i checked we held a station and in the middle of gaining a second station... You should probably read up a bit on current events before posting. |
Nirnias Stirrum
Ore Mongers BricK sQuAD.
25
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Posted - 2012.03.09 09:37:00 -
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Xyla Vulchanus wrote:Rather than making a whiny post about this in the forums, it would probably be more effective to contact Darius's alliance leadership who I am sure (if they are rational, mature and well adjusted people) will take a dim view of these antics and kick him from the alliance.
D3 is our alliance.... derp... So uninformed. |
Tallian Saotome
Fractured Core Fatal Ascension
428
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Posted - 2012.03.09 09:41:00 -
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Nirnias Stirrum wrote:Chased out of null? Last i checked we held a station and in the middle of gaining a second station... You should probably read up a bit on current events before posting. 2 whole stations? Impressive
And in Geminate even! Guess that means you are renters from RA then, eh, given I haven't heard of you guys winning a major fight in a while.
Hows that going, renting from a dying alliance? Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom. |
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Nirnias Stirrum
Ore Mongers BricK sQuAD.
25
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Posted - 2012.03.09 09:48:00 -
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That coming from an FA guy is kinda funny.... remember E-C? trollolol |
Khanh'rhh
One Man Rodgering
851
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Posted - 2012.03.09 09:55:00 -
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Drops to D3 for leveraging easily played idiots for both votes and publicity .. which leads to votes. - "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's |
Tallian Saotome
Fractured Core Fatal Ascension
428
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Posted - 2012.03.09 09:56:00 -
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Nirnias Stirrum wrote:That coming from an FA guy is kinda funny.... remember E-C? trollolol What about some random backwater sansha controlled system in NPC space?
Or do you mean EC-? If thats the case, you are gonna have to refresh my memory, because there are fights happening there almost every day, all of which are ultimately meaningless. Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom. |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
381
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Posted - 2012.03.09 09:59:00 -
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Samillian wrote:Corruption, stupidity and unethical practices in MY EvE!?!
Business as usual then.
It's also how it works in RL, why would anyone be surprised? Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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Nirnias Stirrum
Ore Mongers BricK sQuAD.
25
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Posted - 2012.03.09 10:02:00 -
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My bad EC- yes been years since i been out that way all the system names get jumbled.. But i remember something about ye loosing sov because someone "forgot" to pay sov bills and a hole load of antics ensued due to not being able to access JB's for fleets. This went on for weeks. |
Sasha Azala
Blood and Decay
65
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Posted - 2012.03.09 10:11:00 -
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My view on this is:
Scamming for votes for a CSM position should not be allowed.
A CSM position should be treated seriously and responsibly by the CSM candidates.
The position of a CSM in not an extention of the game play of EVE, it's seperate from the game. It's an interface between the players and CCP.
But that's my view, what CCPs view is I don't know. |
Tallian Saotome
Fractured Core Fatal Ascension
429
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Posted - 2012.03.09 10:15:00 -
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Sasha Azala wrote:My view on this is:
Scamming for votes for a CSM position should not be allowed.
A CSM position should be treated seriously and responsibly by the CSM candidates.
The position of a CSM in not an extention of the game play of EVE, it's seperate from the game. It's an interface between the players and CCP.
But that's my view, what CCPs view is I don't know.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=908314#post908314
Read that post, and you will understand why its happening. He doesn't WANT your vote, or the votes of the people he is scamming, he is proving he is a scammer, because its the scammer votes that he wants to earn. Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom. |
Sasha Azala
Blood and Decay
65
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Posted - 2012.03.09 10:20:00 -
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Tallian Saotome wrote:Sasha Azala wrote:My view on this is:
Scamming for votes for a CSM position should not be allowed.
A CSM position should be treated seriously and responsibly by the CSM candidates.
The position of a CSM in not an extention of the game play of EVE, it's seperate from the game. It's an interface between the players and CCP.
But that's my view, what CCPs view is I don't know. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=908314#post908314Read that post, and you will understand why its happening. He doesn't WANT your vote, or the votes of the people he is scamming, he is proving he is a scammer, because its the scammer votes that he wants to earn.
Except it does not work that way, because he'll earn the votes from scammers (as you put it) but also he'll get the votes he says he does not want (in effect) the scammed. |
Tallian Saotome
Fractured Core Fatal Ascension
429
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Posted - 2012.03.09 10:25:00 -
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Sasha Azala wrote: Except it does not work that way, because he'll earn the votes from scammers (as you put it) but also he'll get the votes he says he does not want (in effect) the scammed.
Which is miniscule compared to what he needs.
You have a VERY low opinion of eve players if you think he can scam up more than 100 or so votes this way, and even that number is pretty much saying I have no faith in humanity. The only people who fall for this are those who wouldn't vote already, yet are greedy enough to overcome the apathy that was preventing them from voting.
There are alot of terrible people in eve, and alot of stupid people, but not a whole lot of people who are both terrible AND stupid. Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom. |
Nirnias Stirrum
Ore Mongers BricK sQuAD.
25
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Posted - 2012.03.09 10:28:00 -
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Confirming that there are alot of terribly stupid people also! |
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Tallian Saotome
Fractured Core Fatal Ascension
430
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Posted - 2012.03.09 10:30:00 -
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Nirnias Stirrum wrote:My bad EC- yes been years since i been out that way all the system names get jumbled.. But i remember something about ye loosing sov because someone "forgot" to pay sov bills and a hole load of antics ensued due to not being able to access JB's for fleets. This went on for weeks. Thats goons, not FA, and that was in delve, not pure blind.
Edit: full history, that was the death of GoonSwarm, which lead to the creation of GoonSwarm Federation and them ultimately inheriting deklein, one of the choicest regions in the game. Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom. |
Sasha Azala
Blood and Decay
65
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Posted - 2012.03.09 10:34:00 -
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Tallian Saotome wrote:Sasha Azala wrote: Except it does not work that way, because he'll earn the votes from scammers (as you put it) but also he'll get the votes he says he does not want (in effect) the scammed.
Which is miniscule compared to what he needs. You have a VERY low opinion of eve players if you think he can scam up more than 100 or so votes this way, and even that number is pretty much saying I have no faith in humanity. The only people who fall for this are those who wouldn't vote already, yet are greedy enough to overcome the apathy that was preventing them from voting. There are alot of terrible people in eve, and alot of stupid people, but not a whole lot of people who are both terrible AND stupid.
No I don't have a low opinion of EVE players, for the majority of EVE players I have a completely neutral opinion for the simple reason I don't know the majority of EVE players.
Scamming is used ingame and accepted ingame by most people. Scamming in RL is generally not accepted. The CSM is a group selected to represent players in RL not as just part of the game. So it should be counted in RL and not as an extension of the game.
Lots of those terrible people in EVE are not terrible in RL, you seem to be confusing the game with RL components. |
Tallian Saotome
Fractured Core Fatal Ascension
430
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Posted - 2012.03.09 10:40:00 -
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Sasha Azala wrote:Tallian Saotome wrote:Sasha Azala wrote: Except it does not work that way, because he'll earn the votes from scammers (as you put it) but also he'll get the votes he says he does not want (in effect) the scammed.
Which is miniscule compared to what he needs. You have a VERY low opinion of eve players if you think he can scam up more than 100 or so votes this way, and even that number is pretty much saying I have no faith in humanity. The only people who fall for this are those who wouldn't vote already, yet are greedy enough to overcome the apathy that was preventing them from voting. There are alot of terrible people in eve, and alot of stupid people, but not a whole lot of people who are both terrible AND stupid. No I don't have a low opinion of EVE players, for the majority of EVE players I have a completely neutral opinion for the simple reason I don't know the majority of EVE players. Scamming is used ingame and accepted ingame by most people. Scamming in RL is generally not accepted. The CSM is a group selected to represent players in RL not as just part of the game. So it should be counted in RL and not as an extension of the game. Lots of those terrible people in EVE are not terrible in RL, you seem to be confusing the game with RL components. Funny, I am voting for someone to represent my IN-GAME interests, and therefor need to know that they understand my concerns. In my case, its nullsec issues. For scammers, it having someone on the CSM who has a vested interest in protecting the scamming/griefing lifestyle: AKA, a fellow scammer. Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom. |
Nirnias Stirrum
Ore Mongers BricK sQuAD.
25
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Posted - 2012.03.09 10:45:00 -
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Nah wasnt goons man, this was a long time ago though, about 2 years i think. And it was definitely in Pure Blind cause i lived there at the time. Back then E-C was actually a fun active system. |
Sasha Azala
Blood and Decay
65
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Posted - 2012.03.09 10:47:00 -
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Tallian Saotome wrote:Sasha Azala wrote:Tallian Saotome wrote:Sasha Azala wrote: Except it does not work that way, because he'll earn the votes from scammers (as you put it) but also he'll get the votes he says he does not want (in effect) the scammed.
Which is miniscule compared to what he needs. You have a VERY low opinion of eve players if you think he can scam up more than 100 or so votes this way, and even that number is pretty much saying I have no faith in humanity. The only people who fall for this are those who wouldn't vote already, yet are greedy enough to overcome the apathy that was preventing them from voting. There are alot of terrible people in eve, and alot of stupid people, but not a whole lot of people who are both terrible AND stupid. No I don't have a low opinion of EVE players, for the majority of EVE players I have a completely neutral opinion for the simple reason I don't know the majority of EVE players. Scamming is used ingame and accepted ingame by most people. Scamming in RL is generally not accepted. The CSM is a group selected to represent players in RL not as just part of the game. So it should be counted in RL and not as an extension of the game. Lots of those terrible people in EVE are not terrible in RL, you seem to be confusing the game with RL components. Funny, I am voting for someone to represent my IN-GAME interests, and therefor need to know that they understand my concerns. In my case, its nullsec issues. For scammers, it having someone on the CSM who has a vested interest in protecting the scamming/griefing lifestyle: AKA, a fellow scammer.
The issue is not the fact he scams ingame (normal game play) but he scams for votes to be elected to be part of a RL group.
If a politician was exposed as obtaining votes through unfair means, what would be the result?
Even 100 votes might not seem a lot but if it was a close race for the last CSM position it could make all the difference. |
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1365
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Posted - 2012.03.09 10:50:00 -
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Sasha Azala wrote:
The issue is not the fact he scams ingame (normal game play) but he scams for votes to be elected to be part of a RL group.
If a politician was exposed as obtaining votes through unfair means, what would be the result?
Even 100 votes might not seem a lot but if it was a close race for the last CSM position it could make all the difference.
Is brainwashing people, and doing repetitive circles "unfair means" I mean People ellect someone because, hey they are good they want to do all the best for us then they screw everything up, to allow the other party for an ride And circle continues, there is no such thing as pollitics, it is an theatre and i think the play is not an comedy. |
Tallian Saotome
Fractured Core Fatal Ascension
431
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Posted - 2012.03.09 10:58:00 -
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Sasha Azala wrote: The issue is not the fact he scams ingame (normal game play) but he scams for votes to be elected to be part of a RL group.
If a politician was exposed as obtaining votes through unfair means, what would be the result?
Even 100 votes might not seem a lot but if it was a close race for the last CSM position it could make all the difference.
Last year when him scamming for votes was new and fresh, he came in last place of the people who made it as alternates with 951 votes. Turn out this year is much, MUCH higher, so I honestly doubt he will make it at all.
And in RL if a candidate was caught rigging an election his party would throw money at the issue til it was hidden from view (*coughcoughFloridacough*) at least in eve we know who he really is, instead of what the media is paid to portray him as.
Also, part of a RL group who does nothing but talk about the GAME.
He is, once again, demonstrating that he knows what the issues his constituents face. That doesn't mean he is going to scam CCP, and if he manages to scam the other CSMs, well.. lul.
Edit: cleaning up quotes. Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom. |
Sasha Azala
Blood and Decay
65
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Posted - 2012.03.09 11:06:00 -
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Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:Sasha Azala wrote:
The issue is not the fact he scams ingame (normal game play) but he scams for votes to be elected to be part of a RL group.
If a politician was exposed as obtaining votes through unfair means, what would be the result?
Even 100 votes might not seem a lot but if it was a close race for the last CSM position it could make all the difference.
Is brainwashing people, and doing repetitive circles "unfair means" I mean People ellect someone because, hey they are good they want to do all the best for us then they screw everything up, to allow the other party for an ride And circle continues, there is no such thing as pollitics, it is an theatre and i think the play is not an comedy.
People elect politicians, because they are wearing a red badge or a blue badge. Majority of voters don't really know what they're voting for as they never look into very deeply. Or they might pick up on one point of a candidates agenda and vote for that reason without even considering the rest of the agenda. Plus quite often when they get elected they don't do what they say they were going to do anyway.
I don't think I've ever been brainwashed so I wouldn't know about that. I tend to make up my own mind. |
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1365
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Posted - 2012.03.09 11:08:00 -
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Sasha Azala wrote:Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:Sasha Azala wrote:
The issue is not the fact he scams ingame (normal game play) but he scams for votes to be elected to be part of a RL group.
If a politician was exposed as obtaining votes through unfair means, what would be the result?
Even 100 votes might not seem a lot but if it was a close race for the last CSM position it could make all the difference.
Is brainwashing people, and doing repetitive circles "unfair means" I mean People ellect someone because, hey they are good they want to do all the best for us then they screw everything up, to allow the other party for an ride And circle continues, there is no such thing as pollitics, it is an theatre and i think the play is not an comedy. People elect politicians, because they are wearing a red badge or a blue badge. Majority of voters don't really know what they're voting for as they never look into very deeply. Or they might pick up on one point of a candidates agenda and vote for that reason without even considering the rest of the agenda. Plus quite often when they get elected they don't do what they say they were going to do anyway. I don't think I've ever been brainwashed so I wouldn't know about that. I tend to make up my own mind.
Well brainwahsed is probably harsh word. But in the certein context we all are. We are born in "some societies" and we are thought to think alike, get morals based on the society we live in etc.
In that we all are victims.
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Sasha Azala
Blood and Decay
65
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Posted - 2012.03.09 11:15:00 -
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Tallian Saotome wrote:Also, part of a RL group who does nothing but talk about the GAME.
So the point is they need to know the game well, I'd agree with that.
But that does not make scamming for votes an acceptable vehicle to be elected by.
I will point out again at this stage that these are my views, I have no idea what CCPs views are about this although it would be interesting to know. |
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