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CCP Diagoras
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Posted - 2012.03.07 12:47:00 -
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I have checked with Lead GM Grimmi regarding this
On the condition that the same users aren't being spammed repeatedly (receiving the same message several times on the same character), sending messages like this for the purpose of campaigning is considered legitimate. Any other candidates that wish to campaign by sending messages, as long as those messages themselves abide by the EULA/ToS, are free to do so. CCP Diagoras - Like EVE stats? Follow me on twitter! |
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CCP Diagoras
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Posted - 2012.03.07 13:24:00 -
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En-masse mailing of electoral messages may only be performed by the candidate themselves. For any queries of other types of messages I'd advise contacting the GM team via the petition system. CCP Diagoras - Like EVE stats? Follow me on twitter! |
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CCP Diagoras
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2012.03.07 13:34:00 -
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Sroasa wrote:CCP Diagoras wrote:En-masse mailing of electoral messages may only be performed by the candidate themselves. For any queries of other types of messages I'd advise contacting the GM team via the petition system. So now sending of messages from one character to another expressing support for a candidate requires GM permission?
GM permission? If you're running in the election yourself, you are free to contact as many people as you wish, as long as you aren't contacting the same people several times.
If you're not running, if you're sharing it with your friends/your own corporation, that's one thing and that's allowed. Mass mailing to everyone you see is quite another. The GM's will use their discretion when dealing with reported cases of spamming as you mention. CCP Diagoras - Like EVE stats? Follow me on twitter! |
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CCP Diagoras
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Posted - 2012.03.07 13:50:00 -
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Sroasa wrote:So what's the limit? Every second person you see? One person per system? Every character you see that has a stupid name?
And why are CSM candidates allowed to do something that the average eve player isn't? Aren't they supposed to be representative of the general eve population?
If you're contacting people just because you see them and you're not running, then you're just spamming. If you're contacting people you know/your corp & alliance, that's a different matter. Please don't try to overcomplicate it, my dear sir.
CSM candidates are given this right in the same light those running for office in many real world systems are provided with advertising space. If you have an issue with it, please feel free to raise the matter as a CSM issue in the assembly hall to be looked at for the next electoral period. Such things certainly can't be changed during the middle of an election. CCP Diagoras - Like EVE stats? Follow me on twitter! |
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CCP Diagoras
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Posted - 2012.03.07 14:18:00 -
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Sroasa wrote:CCP Diagoras wrote:Such things certainly can't be changed during the middle of an election. But this is the first time somebody has ever tried this? When Test Alliance Please Ignore TCU'd unclaimed systems in delve during an extended downtime the GMs removed them even though using extended downtime was an accepting and oft used tactic to online structures without resistance. That rule change was made after many years of precedent. Surely GMs could change the rules after one such incident? And wouldn't it be unfair for candidates in future elections to be denied what has been done in this election? The candidate in question has spread his name far and wide and will be recognised by many in the next election even if this practice is banned.
Changing the rules on the types of advertising that are allowed mid election would give an unfair advantage to those who have already advertised in that way. I can certainly see why people would be unhappy with large amounts of mails being received but it would be against the democratic process to disallow it now.
This wasn't the first time mass mailing of characters has been done in a CSM election. This has taken place as part of every election so far, at times as much as this (in the case of some of the early elections). I'm absolutely open to and would be happy to see a discussion on if this should be allowed for the next election. CCP Diagoras - Like EVE stats? Follow me on twitter! |
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CCP Diagoras
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Posted - 2012.03.07 14:24:00 -
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Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:And how did he got the names from cancelled accounts? Magic?
I imagine there's various routes. If your character was ever killed, it's likely on a killboard somewhere. Did it ever post on a forum? If it did, it's going to show up on search engines and the like.
There's no magic involved. Nobody has been given any special access to character names. CCP Diagoras - Like EVE stats? Follow me on twitter! |
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