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Taedrin
Kushan Industrial
365
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Posted - 2012.03.07 15:58:00 -
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Kusanagi Kasuga wrote:For anyone who's unaware - Trebor gets this list not from some underhanded nefarious trick - but rather from people who showed they're interested in EVE's politics. If you voted in one of the Crowdsourcing prioritisation threads, he'll evemail you. (He mentioned it in one of his earlier mails)
I'm sure that if you ask him, he will remove your name permanently from his mailing list.
While he may harvest names from his crowdsourcing threads, this is most definitely NOT his only source of names as he hit several of my alts - who have never been on any kill mails and have only posted on the forums 3 times (by accident, back when the default character for posting on the forums would randomly change).
However he did not hit any of my alts who had not posted on the forums. This makes me think that he is scraping names off of the forums - either directly, or through eve-search. These other alts are on EVE-WHO, though, so it seems he is NOT scraping the names from there (which makes sense, EVE-WHO limits you to 10 requests every 30 seconds) |
Kusanagi Kasuga
Ferocious Felines
18
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Posted - 2012.03.07 16:45:00 -
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Taedrin wrote:Kusanagi Kasuga wrote:For anyone who's unaware - Trebor gets this list not from some underhanded nefarious trick - but rather from people who showed they're interested in EVE's politics. If you voted in one of the Crowdsourcing prioritisation threads, he'll evemail you. (He mentioned it in one of his earlier mails)
I'm sure that if you ask him, he will remove your name permanently from his mailing list. While he may harvest names from his crowdsourcing threads, this is most definitely NOT his only source of names as he hit several of my alts - who have never been on any kill mails and have only posted on the forums 3 times (by accident, back when the default character for posting on the forums would randomly change). However he did not hit any of my alts who had not posted on the forums. This makes me think that he is scraping names off of the forums - either directly, or through eve-search. These other alts are on EVE-WHO, though, so it seems he is NOT scraping the names from there (which makes sense, EVE-WHO limits you to 10 requests every 30 seconds)
Yeah, I realised after posting that those facts might have been true for previous mails, but didn't seem to match the facts of this mail. |
Squizz Caphinator
Woopatang Happy Endings
32
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Posted - 2012.03.07 16:45:00 -
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Taedrin wrote:EVE-WHO limits you to 10 requests every 30 seconds)
Its good that I do this too, every day there are roughly 5 new IP's trying to scrape the site. It got bad enough I actually removed the scrape notification from my log files. http://evewho.com - Alliance and Corporation Member Listings http://evechatter.com - Free Alliance and Corporation forums for all. |
Garmon
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
70
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Posted - 2012.03.07 17:02:00 -
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The sad thing is that Fon Revedhort has been working on a pvp video for the past 20 months, he released it around 36 hours ago, and it is the single best pvp movie that has ever been made, only 1k people has seen it. It's unfathomable how something that required so much effort + innovation, and is quite frankly, fantastic, has been ignored by the general eve public, but an evening of spamming has resulted in you reaching out to 200k+ characters?
Fon's eve-o thread https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=77415&find=unread
Youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Af6R4j0S_U
P.S. CCP should post that video on their facebook wall, a lot of people will love it, they might need to listen to different music though
like dis if u cry evrytim
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Rakshasa Taisab
Sane Industries Inc.
753
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Posted - 2012.03.07 17:06:00 -
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So... Trebor now out-trolls goon and test. C/D? 84,000 AUR ($420) spent on NeX store for Troll and Profit. |
Jenshae Chiroptera
467
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Posted - 2012.03.07 17:10:00 -
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Garmon wrote:The sad thing is that ... a pvp video for ... his CSM campaign,
PVP video? So what? How does that show the ability to communicate clearly and arbitrate with unbiased opinion?
Ideas & stuff EVE - the game of sand castles, either building them or kicking them down. -á Status: Taking a break |
Tetragammatron Prime
Pink Sockers
22
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Posted - 2012.03.07 17:18:00 -
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ah so there is special rule for CSM to be allowed to spam all players,, next is alllowed to bot and free rubdown and happy ending at fanfest |
Garmon
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
70
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Posted - 2012.03.07 17:23:00 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Garmon wrote:The sad thing is that ... a pvp video for ... his CSM campaign, PVP video? So what? How does that show the ability to communicate clearly and arbitrate with unbiased opinion?
If you remember, when the CSM minutes were released, there was a big outcry with the community with how the CSM candidates didn't seem to be in touch with the game, and were generally, incompetent - not my words, just the general feedback the majority gave, I would say that this video demonstrates that he doesn't have those qualities. I'm sure a lot of people would agree that an important quality that a CSM candidate should have is their ability to pvp, and understand mechanics, apart from the video being very enjoyable, it addresses those concerns too. |
Glistening Bravado
Republic University Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.03.07 17:28:00 -
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Daquaris wrote:Seriously - Is this allowed?
We have a cantidate - Trebor Daehdoow Spamming everyone in EVE.
It appears he is using a bot that scrapes player names from the forums.
As long as I don't get robocalls from his campaign, I don't really give a ****. |
Rangloff
Lightbringer's Sanctuary BLACK-MARK
1
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Posted - 2012.03.07 17:34:00 -
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This is ridiculous. You are allowing the automated spamming of thousands. I am sure any other person doing such an action would receive harsh punishments. Imagine being spammed by the Jita scam bots. It would be just like real life getting spammed by telemarketers and junk mail. OH THE JOY. |
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Pseudo Ucksth
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
93
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Posted - 2012.03.07 17:41:00 -
[101] - Quote
Godwin's invoked, thread over. |
Sentinel Eeex
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
7
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Posted - 2012.03.07 17:43:00 -
[102] - Quote
CCP Diagoras wrote:En-masse mailing of electoral messages may only be performed by the candidate themselves. For any queries of other types of messages I'd advise contacting the GM team via the petition system.
And this was advertised where exactly? |
Sentinel Eeex
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
7
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Posted - 2012.03.07 17:46:00 -
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Trebor Daehdoow wrote:I have made a blog posting explaining what I did and why. I hope it helps clarify matters.
I can tell you why, without even reading your blog.
Because you are dumb, that's why. |
Admiral Weatheral
Perkone Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.03.07 17:49:00 -
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Just another reason to vote for PsychoBitch. He would kick his ass! |
Sentinel Eeex
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
7
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Posted - 2012.03.07 17:52:00 -
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I see no problem with everyone who got spammed replying to Trebor.
Multiple times, just to get the message across. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2322
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Posted - 2012.03.07 18:06:00 -
[106] - Quote
dishonour "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Xolani1990
PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore
72
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Posted - 2012.03.07 18:06:00 -
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CCP Diagoras wrote:Such things certainly can't be changed during the middle of an election.
That is rubbish, it can be changed now as easily as the rule giving CSM candidates permission to do this was made up around mid-day today. |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
861
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Posted - 2012.03.07 18:09:00 -
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Haven't posted in a little bee circle jerk thread in what seems like days.
Mr Epeen Me too!-á I ate one sour, too! |
De Guillaume
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
262
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Posted - 2012.03.07 18:13:00 -
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I got the mail I never even read it. went to trash and will stay in TRASH
I see no big deal but if anyone wants my 16alts to vote for you. I need isk payments or other forms of bribes. If I get none i won't be voting, since I probs won't even remember when it happens.
CSM election are pointless ego stage. The fact you need to elect people to get popular views to CCP is a stupid idea. They should be reading the forums and the complaints to gain their ideas. They should announce their intention and feel out the responses. |
Jenshae Chiroptera
467
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Posted - 2012.03.07 18:22:00 -
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I hope this resoundingly backfires and is made public so that other future candidates will not be spamming. Ideas & stuff EVE - the game of sand castles, either building them or kicking them down. -á Status: Taking a break |
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Rundle Allnighter
Blackwater USA Inc. Against ALL Authorities
5
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Posted - 2012.03.07 18:24:00 -
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I see only a few things here:
1) People who are ass-sore because they didn't think of it or have no F'n clue on how to do it.
2) People who are taking some false high-moral ground only because their candidate didn't do it first
3) People who are somehow ok with 100's of television election commercials "invading" their life but not this.
4) People who are clearly ignoring the physical paper mail that they get during elections but not this.
5) People who are clearly ignoring the 100's of billboards, signs, posters, lawn signs, etc. but not this.
I could go on but I *hope* you get the point.
Now, before you go spouting off about election mechanics and laws, lets just agree they are different depending on where you go. Some places all lawn placards must be removed before voting starts yet other places campaigning can go on till the polls close. So the laws here are the laws here. Deal with it.
So what to do? If you don't like the process and the "laws" of CSM elections then get involved and get them changed. EVE-Mail every current CSM member (Trebor is ONE of them) and ask them to raise this issue with CCP. Do it now. Ask them to talk about it with CCP at the summit. And then eve-mail every member of the CSM 7 once they start their new position and ask them to continue talking to CCP about getting the laws changed.
To come here and to cry about it is about as useful as standing on your porch yelling at the postman for delivering some election mail. Or standing at yelling at your TV (or calling the station) for showing that election commercial yet again.
But remember, only send one eve mail to each CSM member. You don't want to get banned for spamming.
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Elise Randolph
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
726
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Posted - 2012.03.07 18:25:00 -
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Easy solution! Receive spam Change the link to vote for another candidate Re-send mail!
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Herschel Yamamoto
Agent-Orange Nabaal Syndicate
2
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Posted - 2012.03.07 19:45:00 -
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Anyone who is trying to get in contact with voters and pass along information is doing the right thing, as far as I'm concerned. Far better to have too many people trying to get me to vote than too few.
Seriously, I can't believe how many people whine whenever they're exposed to democracy. Especially in a game with "Harden the f*** up" as a semi-official motto - you're going to start flipping out over getting an email? Really? It's pathetic. |
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
1058
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Posted - 2012.03.07 20:10:00 -
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Elise Randolph wrote:Easy solution! Receive spam Change the link to vote for another candidate Re-send mail!
So I got the spam last night which I thought was funny and annoying at the same time.
So basically I "reply all"-ed , removed Trebor and sent my own campaign message, mostly for "pay back" for such a lame in game move.
To the folks that got my "re-spam" I apologize, it really was meant as a "statement" about being spammed by another candidate.
Any future unsolicited nonsense like I got last night will go immediately in the bin.
Issler |
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
447
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Posted - 2012.03.07 20:15:00 -
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oh no my inbox has mail in it ccp heellllppp |
Lunas Whisper
Chillwater Ltd Imperial Ascension
32
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Posted - 2012.03.07 20:40:00 -
[116] - Quote
Taedrin wrote:Kusanagi Kasuga wrote:For anyone who's unaware - Trebor gets this list not from some underhanded nefarious trick - but rather from people who showed they're interested in EVE's politics. If you voted in one of the Crowdsourcing prioritisation threads, he'll evemail you. (He mentioned it in one of his earlier mails)
I'm sure that if you ask him, he will remove your name permanently from his mailing list. While he may harvest names from his crowdsourcing threads, this is most definitely NOT his only source of names as he hit several of my alts - who have never been on any kill mails and have only posted on the forums 3 times (by accident, back when the default character for posting on the forums would randomly change). However he did not hit any of my alts who had not posted on the forums. This makes me think that he is scraping names off of the forums - either directly, or through eve-search. These other alts are on EVE-WHO, though, so it seems he is NOT scraping the names from there (which makes sense, EVE-WHO limits you to 10 requests every 30 seconds)
He went on one of the programs that shows alliances and who is in corporations and harvested the names from there.
Not sure how I feel about it tbh. |
Rundle Allnighter
Blackwater USA Inc. Against ALL Authorities
6
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Posted - 2012.03.07 20:43:00 -
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And one more thing....
How many of you got Alliance or Corporation eve-mails telling you to vote for candidate X? And then came here to cry about getting one mail from a candidate not in your alliance or corp?
How's that different?
The end result is more people will be talking about the CSM process and (hopefully) voting. For whatever candidate they want.
And that's a good thing for EVE. |
Indahmawar Fazmarai
The I and F Taxation Trust
297
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Posted - 2012.03.07 20:47:00 -
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I wonder what would had happened if this trick had been played out by someone not in the CSM. And it certainly leaves a sour taste. But in a sense, it's EVE on its finest: you have been griefed, you can't do **** about it, and CCP applauds the griefer... EVE residents: 5% Wormholes; 8% Lowsec; 20% Nullsec; 67% Highsec. CSM 6: 100% Nullsec residents.
EVE demographics vs CSM demographics, nothing to worry about...-á |
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
448
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Posted - 2012.03.07 20:54:00 -
[119] - Quote
lol 'griefed' = receiving e-mail
firstworldproblems dot com |
Sephiroth CloneIIV
Vitriol Ventures BLACK-MARK
56
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Posted - 2012.03.07 20:55:00 -
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I got it too, all the names seemed to be people in my corp too.
Why does his name seem familiar? |
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