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Robin zePiwate
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.03.07 13:57:00 -
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Hi everyone,
I hope i'm bringing this to the right place. Earlier today in Jita local, someone said if one voted for Darius III he/she recieved a PLEX. So, while not expecting it to be true, I contacted Darius III himself and to my suprise he confirmed the deal. Well, I gave it a shot and it turned out to be a scam (no sh*t).
My question here is simple, is it legal for Darius III to harvest votes through scamming?
Yours,
Robin
Additional info:
Voting link from bio: http://community.eveonline.com/council/voting/Vote.asp?c=480 |
mxzf
Shovel Bros
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Posted - 2012.03.07 14:03:00 -
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So your first idea is to post a link to vote for Darius III? I smell a troll looking for people to click the link without realizing that it'll vote for him.
And while I don't think it's technically against the rules to scam for CSM votes, I think it's a pretty dirty practice and that I would never vote for someone who's trying to scam for votes.
Oh, and if you want to be taken seriously, don't post on an alt. |
Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic Tragedy.
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Posted - 2012.03.07 14:03:00 -
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Darius? Is that you?
Well...it IS EvE and scamming is a legitimate business in EvE. I guess that just goes to show you...if he is willing to lie to get in the CSM then how could he possibly keep his word as to what he intends to do with the CSM.
This is also an idiotic grab for votes for Darius. You fail. Try posting with your main Darius. EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-á Open the door!!! |
Robin zePiwate
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.03.07 14:17:00 -
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First of all, I just questionned the legitimacy of the vote harvesting that's all... This is not an alt related to Darius III or anything close. I removed the link since it apperently serves no additional value to this thread. Just read and answer the goddamn question, thank you very much |
Jitterka
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.03.07 14:22:00 -
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rly? its your fault youre dumb.... scaming is alowed btw should we make separate topic everytime someone was scamed in jita? |
Robin zePiwate
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.03.07 16:33:00 -
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And another joins the ranks of incompetants... Did I say something similar to "OMG i've been scammed, blablabla"?? No... I just wondered if he was allowed to harvest votes through in game scamming... you following me so far? Just checking capiche? |
Drake Draconis
Nexus Advanced Technologies Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2012.03.07 17:57:00 -
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Robin zePiwate wrote:Hi everyone,
I hope i'm bringing this to the right place.
Nope... ================ FloppieTheBanjoClown for CSM 7! |
Tidurious
Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2012.03.07 18:34:00 -
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WTF is this in Assembly Hall?
Damnit Drake... That thunder was mine... *sniff* |
Drake Draconis
Nexus Advanced Technologies Fidelas Constans
365
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Posted - 2012.03.07 19:46:00 -
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Tidurious wrote:WTF is this in Assembly Hall?
Damnit Drake... That thunder was mine... *sniff*
I only used 1 word....not like you couldn't upstage me. ================ FloppieTheBanjoClown for CSM 7! |
Tallian Saotome
Fractured Core Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2012.03.07 20:08:00 -
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Robin zePiwate wrote:Hi everyone,
I hope i'm bringing this to the right place. Earlier today in Jita local, someone said if one voted for Darius III he/she recieved a PLEX. So, while not expecting it to be true, I contacted Darius III himself and to my suprise he confirmed the deal. Well, I gave it a shot and it turned out to be a scam (no sh*t).
My question here is simple, is it legal for Darius III to harvest votes through scamming?
Yours,
Robin Given that its how he very publicly got his votes to get into CSM6, and they didn't change the rules, yes, it is totally legit.
Also, if you had taken a quick look at general discussion, or crime and punishment, you would have seen several threads alot like this one, which is why you are getting trolled alot. Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom. |
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Robin zePiwate
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.03.07 21:14:00 -
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Thank you Tallian, that is what I needed to know |
Mr R4nd0m
Retribution.
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Posted - 2012.03.07 21:39:00 -
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So now vote scamming is allowed? are you freaking kidding me? Scamming in game fine but scamming your votes to a csm place is not... |
Drake Draconis
Nexus Advanced Technologies Fidelas Constans
365
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Posted - 2012.03.07 21:44:00 -
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Mr R4nd0m wrote:So now vote scamming is allowed? are you freaking kidding me? Scamming in game fine but scamming your votes to a csm place is not...
Your missing the point.
Scamming is legitimate as far as EVE is concerned.
Being fooled into thinking your going to get _______ for doing ______ just means your a dumb@$$.
Thats no different than paying ransom to not get podded.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with that....because you CHOSE to respond and make that decision. ================ FloppieTheBanjoClown for CSM 7! |
Mr R4nd0m
Retribution.
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Posted - 2012.03.07 21:46:00 -
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Drake Draconis wrote:Mr R4nd0m wrote:So now vote scamming is allowed? are you freaking kidding me? Scamming in game fine but scamming your votes to a csm place is not... Your missing the point. Scamming is legitimate as far as EVE is concerned. Being fooled into thinking your going to get _______ for doing ______ just means your a dumb@$$. Thats no different than paying ransom to not get podded. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that....because you CHOSE to respond and make that decision.
Sorry but i have to completely disagree, scamming for votes to get on the CSM is going a little too far...
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Drake Draconis
Nexus Advanced Technologies Fidelas Constans
365
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Posted - 2012.03.07 22:48:00 -
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Mr R4nd0m wrote:Drake Draconis wrote:Mr R4nd0m wrote:So now vote scamming is allowed? are you freaking kidding me? Scamming in game fine but scamming your votes to a csm place is not... Your missing the point. Scamming is legitimate as far as EVE is concerned. Being fooled into thinking your going to get _______ for doing ______ just means your a dumb@$$. Thats no different than paying ransom to not get podded. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that....because you CHOSE to respond and make that decision. Sorry but i have to completely disagree, scamming for votes to get on the CSM is going a little too far...
Again....you fall for the scam....you deserve to get scammed.
So point there of...dont. ================ FloppieTheBanjoClown for CSM 7! |
Cyprus Black
Cowboy Diplomacy
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Posted - 2012.03.07 23:22:00 -
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I'm all for scamming and the victims of scams deserving it for being stupid.
However a CSM candidate who is vote-scamming just seems a bit shady, even for EvE players. Definitely in the grey area as to whether it's allowed or not. CCP might have to chime in on this one for or against it in the same way they needed to chime in on DUST514 beta key scamming. Follow my EvE blog at: http://cyprusblack.blogspot.com/ |
Drake Draconis
Nexus Advanced Technologies Fidelas Constans
366
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Posted - 2012.03.07 23:28:00 -
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Cyprus Black wrote:I'm all for scamming and the victims of scams deserving it for being stupid.
However a CSM candidate who is vote-scamming just seems a bit shady, even for EvE players. Definitely in the grey area as to whether it's allowed or not. CCP might have to chime in on this one for or against it in the same way they needed to chime in on DUST514 beta key scamming.
The issue people are hinting at is use of meta-gaming to get votes....
Its testament to their agenda.....and all it means is they don't give a #### about you..they just want their free ticket to Iceland.
Like it or not...CCP won't stop it...unless its an actual exploit/abuse of game mechanics...case and point...spamming.....Im not itnerestd in picking apart the idiot that did it.
I'm interested in preventing its abuse for anything/anyone else as a result.
This therad is a joke.
As I've pointed out....its no different than ransoming.
Just because they said you won't get podded...doesn't mean you won't.
No one said you had to vote for him.
Getting bribed is a clear sign that you don't deserve to vote at that rate. The true idiot here is the one who fell for it...not the one who initiated it.
Its EVE Online....there are no gaurentees. ================ FloppieTheBanjoClown for CSM 7! |
Smiling Menace
Star Nebulae Holdings Inc.
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Posted - 2012.03.08 02:07:00 -
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To be totally fair, how is scamming for votes any worse than an alliance coercing it's members and their alts to vote for their candidate?
The CSM is really just a sounding board for CCP to listen to people's views from the front lines. Just because someone is on the CSM, it doesn't mean that they will get anything changed, any changes are still down to CCP. CCP will do what's in their interests as a business and if they can make nice changes along the way that makes players happy, then that's just peachy.
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Samillian
Moonshine Industries The Last Chancers.
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Posted - 2012.03.08 08:55:00 -
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This being EvE it's legal to gather votes by scamming, blackmail, intimidation, extorsion, payment, pier pressure, campaigning, torture, sexual favours, bribery, false promises, true promises, selling your soul and possibly human sacrifice.
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Tallian Saotome
Fractured Core Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2012.03.08 09:57:00 -
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Cyprus Black wrote:However a CSM candidate who is vote-scamming just seems a bit shady, even for EvE players. Definitely in the grey area as to whether it's allowed or not. There is no grey area its, its clear cut, black and white. Scamming is allowed, got D3 into the CSM last year, and people complaining about it just makes sure his constituents(the scammers and griefers of eve) know he is still doing his thing, and so they will vote for him.
Something to be aware of, not all the people posting that he scammed him are real people, he got caught sock puppeting once last year iirc, I wouldn't be surprised if some of these threads are the same thing.
Edit: to be clear, D3s whole platform is that scamming and griefing are good, and should remain an core part of eve, and so he runs his campaign as a giant scam. Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom. |
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Drake Draconis
Nexus Advanced Technologies Fidelas Constans
372
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Posted - 2012.03.08 15:45:00 -
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Tallian Saotome wrote:Cyprus Black wrote:However a CSM candidate who is vote-scamming just seems a bit shady, even for EvE players. Definitely in the grey area as to whether it's allowed or not. There is no grey area its, its clear cut, black and white. Scamming is allowed, got D3 into the CSM last year, and people complaining about it just makes sure his constituents(the scammers and griefers of eve) know he is still doing his thing, and so they will vote for him. Something to be aware of, not all the people posting that he scammed him are real people, he got caught sock puppeting once last year iirc, I wouldn't be surprised if some of these threads are the same thing. Edit: to be clear, D3s whole platform is that scamming and griefing are good, and should remain an core part of eve, and so he runs his campaign as a giant scam.
Who are we kidding...they ALL sock puppet. ================ FloppieTheBanjoClown for CSM 7! |
Tallian Saotome
Fractured Core Fatal Ascension
424
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Posted - 2012.03.08 16:06:00 -
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Drake Draconis wrote:Tallian Saotome wrote:Cyprus Black wrote:However a CSM candidate who is vote-scamming just seems a bit shady, even for EvE players. Definitely in the grey area as to whether it's allowed or not. There is no grey area its, its clear cut, black and white. Scamming is allowed, got D3 into the CSM last year, and people complaining about it just makes sure his constituents(the scammers and griefers of eve) know he is still doing his thing, and so they will vote for him. Something to be aware of, not all the people posting that he scammed him are real people, he got caught sock puppeting once last year iirc, I wouldn't be surprised if some of these threads are the same thing. Edit: to be clear, D3s whole platform is that scamming and griefing are good, and should remain an core part of eve, and so he runs his campaign as a giant scam. Who are we kidding...they ALL sock puppet. Over in the Ship rebalance thread I found evidence that CCP Yttrbium is Snot Shot, as well as noticing another alt he accidentally posted on Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom. |
Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.10 17:29:00 -
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Tallian Saotome wrote:Edit: to be clear, D3s whole platform is that scamming and griefing are good, and should remain an core part of eve, and so he runs his campaign as a giant scam.
I though D3's whole platform, was 'do nothing, contribute nothing, achieve nothing' ~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever. |
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