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Utopa Kashuken
HomeWorld Forever 9th Company
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Posted - 2012.03.07 17:38:00 -
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Only one hope for Caldari missioner - Drake, I will miss you When you will get nerf, I will stop play this game
I will write truely. For missioner, Caldari BS DO NOT EXIST
ROKH? GET OFF RAILGUN AND JUST MINING VELDSPAR. It will more profit
RAVEN - CNR? HAHAHA Cruise Missile is MOTHERFUCKINGBULLSHITGODDAMNJESUSCHRISTBLOODYHELLWASTE weapon of all weapon
In Damsel lv4, Raven warps in 50kms, hardly kills RATS, warps out and docks station for shield recharge, AND again warps in, AND hardly kills RATs, AND again warps out and docks station for shield recharge - REPEAT until kill Zor BUT Amarr BS are just warps in, KILL RATS ALL, END
SCORPION Navy Issue - Hmm, it's good TANK. Not week as Raven. BUT MOTHERFUCKINGBULLSHITGODDAMNJESUSCHRISTBLOODYHELLWASTE Cruise Missile too
Tengu - VERYVERYVERYVERYVERYVERYVERYVERYVERYVERYVERYVERYVERYVERY Expensive And It's not BS
Nightmare, Rattesnake, - Hey, They just need skill. Not Caldari BS! (+ Expensive
So.. When other Faction Missioners drive their own BS and clear lv4 mission poor Caldari Missioner's only hope is Drake
But hope will be murder by CCP AND Nullsec selfish CSM They wil not understand who MUST drive Drake cause there is no BS for Caldari Missioner
Well, A few rich missioners can drive tengu... hahaha
I will stop play EVE Online When drake gets nerf. Goodbye you guys Specially Nullsec selfish CSM. |
Saul Shardani
Red Core Paradigm Shift Alliance
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Posted - 2012.03.07 17:40:00 -
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yup |
Kneebone
K-H Light Industries
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Posted - 2012.03.07 17:50:00 -
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My eyes see ignorance, My CNR laughs at you, My Tengu flys circles around you, My Rohk unleashes its blasters upon you, My Navy Scorpian envies my CNR, though the Raven looks up to it, Please can I have your stuff? |
Veronica Kerrigan
Hand Of Midas F0RCEFUL ENTRY
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Posted - 2012.03.07 18:00:00 -
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I think I have foudn your problem.
Utopa Kashuken wrote:In Damsel lv4, Raven warps in 50kms, hardly kills RATS, warps out and docks station for shield recharge, AND again warps in, AND hardly kills RATs, AND again warps out and docks station for shield recharge - REPEAT until kill Zor BUT Amarr BS are just warps in, KILL RATS ALL, END
Eve has this wonderful module that uses your capacitor, and provides a boost to your shield HP. It's called a...wait for it... shield booster. Don't go whining to us that you have no clue how to fit a ship. The Raven and CNR are perfectly acceptable mission ships, not to mention the tengu and Golem. Blaster Rohk is more than a match for serpentis and angels (I have seen one in action, it does go faster than a raven in most cases), and Rails Rohk, while sub par, can still project over 500 dps out to 70 or so km of optimal. I believe the problem here is not the ships, or even that a ship is being nerfed. It is that you are unable to find a way to work with what you are given, and insist on trying to fly everything like your precious drake.
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Cambarus
Baros Reloaded
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Posted - 2012.03.07 18:12:00 -
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Guys if he thinks the drake is the best mission running ship for caldari, let him leave. Just sayin. |
Griznatch
Xicron Syndicate Tus Network
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Posted - 2012.03.07 18:13:00 -
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Dont let it hit you where the good lord split you. I used to have a clever sig but I lost it. |
Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2012.03.07 18:18:00 -
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0/10 troll. Shame on you all for falling for it. CCP Sreegs is my favorite developer. |
ITTigerClawIK
Galactic Rangers Galactic-Rangers
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Posted - 2012.03.07 18:44:00 -
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Utopa Kashuken wrote:Only one hope for Caldari missioner - Drake, I will miss you When you will get nerf, I will stop play this game
I will write truely. For missioner, Caldari BS DO NOT EXIST
ROKH? GET OFF RAILGUN AND JUST MINING VELDSPAR. It will more profit
RAVEN - CNR? HAHAHA Cruise Missile is MOTHERFUCKINGBULLSHITGODDAMNJESUSCHRISTBLOODYHELLWASTE weapon of all weapon
In Damsel lv4, Raven warps in 50kms, hardly kills RATS, warps out and docks station for shield recharge, AND again warps in, AND hardly kills RATs, AND again warps out and docks station for shield recharge - REPEAT until kill Zor BUT Amarr BS are just warps in, KILL RATS ALL, END
SCORPION Navy Issue - Hmm, it's good TANK. Not week as Raven. BUT MOTHERFUCKINGBULLSHITGODDAMNJESUSCHRISTBLOODYHELLWASTE Cruise Missile too
Tengu - VERYVERYVERYVERYVERYVERYVERYVERYVERYVERYVERYVERYVERYVERY Expensive And It's not BS
Nightmare, Rattesnake, - Hey, They just need skill. Not Caldari BS! (+ Expensive
So.. When other Faction Missioners drive their own BS and clear lv4 mission poor Caldari Missioner's only hope is Drake
But hope will be murder by CCP AND Nullsec selfish CSM They wil not understand who MUST drive Drake cause there is no BS for Caldari Missioner
Well, A few rich missioners can drive tengu... hahaha
I will stop play EVE Online When drake gets nerf. Goodbye you guys Specially Nullsec selfish CSM.
obvius troll is obvius, stupid posting alt. |
Kraven Stark
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
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Posted - 2012.03.07 18:55:00 -
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This is a troll, right? |
DeltaPhalanx
Hordes Of Belial
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Posted - 2012.03.07 19:44:00 -
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OP:
L2Nighthawk |
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Cephelange du'Krevviq
Hephaestus LLC Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2012.03.07 19:59:00 -
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umadbro? |
yopparai
ASTARTES CORP
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Posted - 2012.03.07 20:24:00 -
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you suck at eve, & eve will be a better place without you in it.
Yopp |
Maximillian Dragonard
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.07 22:31:00 -
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Funny... when I started missioning, there wasn't a drake. Missile fit ferox used to be the standard level 3 mission ship for caldari. Worked fine and dandy until I could effectively fly a BS. Reactivated in response to the change in direction.....-á |
Liam Mirren
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Posted - 2012.03.07 22:46:00 -
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Maximillian Dragonard wrote:Funny... when I started missioning, there wasn't a drake. Missile fit ferox used to be the standard level 3 mission ship for caldari. Worked fine and dandy until I could effectively fly a BS.
And if you're having to dock to recharge your raven shields, you're doing it wrong!
Indeed, and people flying Amarr had nothing other than the prophecy. Excellence is not a skill, it's an attitude.
My guides: http://mirren.freeforums.org |
Jesus Rambo
Massive PVPness EntroPraetorian Aegis
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Posted - 2012.03.08 00:24:00 -
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lol |
Grimpak
Midnight Elites Echelon Rising
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Posted - 2012.03.08 02:13:00 -
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Cambarus wrote:Guys if he thinks the drake is the best mission running ship for caldari, let him leave. Just sayin.
[img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |
Pulgy
Shadows Of The Federation Drunk 'n' Disorderly
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Posted - 2012.03.08 02:46:00 -
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One less drake running missions, what a terrible loss for humanity No range? No problem!Join the Church of the Holy BlasterGäó . A Hybrid religion. |
Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.08 02:47:00 -
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Another troll or another ignorant, I don't know which one I'll pick. |
Soon Shin
Caucasian Culture Club Narwhals Ate My Duck
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Posted - 2012.03.08 05:35:00 -
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I predict the next "nerf" will become the Hurricane since everyone pretty much flies that after the drake.
Then all Battlecruisers will be nerf or be made expensive to fly, such as requiring large rigs instead of medium or doubled material costs.
The masses don't deserve to enjoy the pvp ability of such ships. They must now fly cruisers forever! |
Simur Aces
Unknown Dimension
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Posted - 2012.03.08 06:23:00 -
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Hmmm... lvl4 in an Drake... after "Nerf" ? I dont see the Problem.
- Resistance - Kin Bonus
+ Missile Velocity + RoF
Other Caldari Mission Boats:
- Ferrox - Naga - Raven - CNR - Rattle - Gila - Tengu - Nighthawk - CN-Scorp - Rokh (Yes ... you can...)
Btw. the Changes of the Drake will make those happy wich uses HAM-¦s in smalscale-PvP... and all the others who will kill NPC-¦s even faster than today.
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To mare
Advanced Technology
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Posted - 2012.03.08 06:26:00 -
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probably after that you call a "nerf" the drake will be evn better at missioning since it will do more dps |
PotatoOverdose
Royal Black Watch Highlanders Flatline.
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Posted - 2012.03.08 08:16:00 -
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Thing is...atm you can fit a drake with over 800dps passive omni tank (see any number of WH fits). With the change in bonuses you will do more damage with slightly less tank. In practice most drakes fit less than 400dps tanks and fit for damage instead.
Even w/o the resist bonus, a drake will have no problems tanking L4's due to slot layout and the drake hull's naturally high passive shield regen. The RoF bonus will be much better than a kinetic bonus, so you'll clear missions faster.
A drake nerf won't really affect pve. It might have an impact on pvp, but its not at all certain what that impact will be since drakes will be able to project damage further and have less missile delay when switching targets due to the missile velocity + rof bonus. HM drakes will be able to hit well into 90km and HAM drakes will hit in the 30-40km range depending on their fitting. It might actually be worthwhile to fit range increasing rigs on a ham drake, but probably not. |
Kalihira
Interstellar Newcomers Inc. Home Front Coalition
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Posted - 2012.03.08 10:03:00 -
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when you ragequit, can I haz ur iskies? |
Danny John-Peter
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2012.03.08 10:07:00 -
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To be honest, I really dont understand all these people calling the Drake change a nerf, its getting more DPS with the other damage types, more range (WTF BBQ outrange hellcats) and HAM Drakes will now be even more excellent in PVP and will possible even outdamage (and of course out buffer) Hurricanes in some set ups.
And if you run level 4s in a Drake for more than the time it takes to train for a decent Tengu/Raven you are terrible at eve, I've never even done missions and I know that. |
Danny John-Peter
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2012.03.08 10:08:00 -
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Kalihira wrote:when you ragequit, can I haz ur iskies?
He wont have many, doing LVL 4s in a Drake |
Khanh'rhh
One Man Rodgering
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Posted - 2012.03.08 10:56:00 -
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Literally every Caldari missile ship is oft considered best in class for PVE.
The Drake is about the WORST option for missions.
You are terrible. - "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's |
Cadius Vect
Domination. NEM3SIS.
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Posted - 2012.03.08 11:22:00 -
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PotatoOverdose wrote:Thing is...atm you can fit a drake with over 800dps passive omni tank (see any number of WH fits). With the change in bonuses you will do more damage with slightly less tank. In practice most drakes fit less than 400dps tanks and fit for damage instead.
Even w/o the resist bonus, a drake will have no problems tanking L4's due to slot layout and the drake hull's naturally high passive shield regen. The RoF bonus will be much better than a kinetic bonus, so you'll clear missions faster.
A drake nerf won't really affect pve. It might have an impact on pvp, but its not at all certain what that impact will be since drakes will be able to project damage further and have less missile delay when switching targets due to the missile velocity + rof bonus. HM drakes will be able to hit well into 90km and HAM drakes will hit in the 30-40km range depending on their fitting. It might actually be worthwhile to fit range increasing rigs on a ham drake, but probably not.
You say that, but actually the lack of resist bonus will effect the drakes tank quite allot.
Load up EFT open a drake setup and set the battlecruiser skill to 0, what you'll see is that you need to dedicate more slots to tank to achieve the amount of tank needed for level 4s. That means less slots used on increasing damage.
You'll still be able to tank mainly kinetic and explosive dealing factions sufficiently but without the resist bonus, tanking anything dealing allot of EM/Thermal damage with a reasonable fit (3-4 or more damage mods, target painter, missile rigs) will be totally out of the question. |
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CCP Phantom
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2012.03.08 11:36:00 -
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Lacks constructive content.
Thread locked. CCP Phantom - German Community Coordinator |
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