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Mr R4nd0m
Retribution.
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Posted - 2012.03.07 21:28:00 -
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Scamming in game (although i think it ruins the game) is all fine and dandy. But to scam votes (ppl like darius, and im sure ppl like mittani etc do it too) is going a bit too far. Surely CCP you dont allow this too? Making a mockery of the an already flawed system. CCP ffs start putting some rules around this. Jeez its probably the most abused, corrupt, dodgy and manipulative voting system i have ever seen, Having to scam your way onto the CSM? Really? |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
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Posted - 2012.03.07 21:37:00 -
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Mr R4nd0m wrote:Scamming in game (although i think it ruins the game) is all fine and dandy. But to scam votes (ppl like darius, and im sure ppl like mittani etc do it too) is going a bit too far. Surely CCP you dont allow this too? Making a mockery of the an already flawed system. CCP ffs start putting some rules around this. Jeez its probably the most abused, corrupt, dodgy and manipulative voting system i have ever seen, Having to scam your way onto the CSM? Really? EvE is a dodgy, corrupt, and abusive place. Par for the course is what it is. Since when did *.* scamming become part of EvE? Since ever.
Troll thread 1/10
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Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
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Posted - 2012.03.07 21:37:00 -
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Why not ? O_o
Scams add character to the game. There's no real reason this shouldn't be allowed, even Vote-Scams. Hell ... people get manipulated and lied to all day long in reallife too.
You're ignoring the fact that there wouldn't be any scammers if there weren't any idiots falling for them. People don't need protection, they need to learn to take care of themselves. Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |
Micheal Dietrich
Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2012.03.07 21:38:00 -
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Hey look, another thread on the subject matter |
Mr R4nd0m
Retribution.
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Posted - 2012.03.07 21:41:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:Why not ? O_o
Scams add character to the game. There's no real reason this shouldn't be allowed, even Vote-Scams. Hell ... people get manipulated and lied to all day long in reallife too.
You're ignoring the fact that there wouldn't be any scammers if there weren't any idiots falling for them. People don't need protection, they need to learn to take care of themselves.
So its fine to have a group of csm that basically scammed their way to csm... awesome...
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Sidrat Flush
Life is Experience
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Posted - 2012.03.07 21:43:00 -
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Mr R4nd0m wrote:Solstice Project wrote:Why not ? O_o
Scams add character to the game. There's no real reason this shouldn't be allowed, even Vote-Scams. Hell ... people get manipulated and lied to all day long in reallife too.
You're ignoring the fact that there wouldn't be any scammers if there weren't any idiots falling for them. People don't need protection, they need to learn to take care of themselves. So its fine to have a group of csm that basically scammed their way to csm... awesome...
It does mean that they were elected by silly people believing hollow promises.
Sound familiar much? |
Valei Khurelem
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Posted - 2012.03.07 21:44:00 -
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CSM is a classic example of taking a game too damn seriously that's why I won't even bother voting.
"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP." -á - CCP Ytterbium |
Mr R4nd0m
Retribution.
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Posted - 2012.03.07 21:45:00 -
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this game really is becoming a sesspit |
Jess Tiki
The Hebrew In Me
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Posted - 2012.03.07 21:45:00 -
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Scamming your way in sounds like earning it the hard way.
It also sounds like pretty good reasons why scammers should vote for him. One of their own. |
Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2012.03.07 21:53:00 -
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I take far greater exception to the mail-spamming Trebor is doing, what a jerk. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
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Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
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Posted - 2012.03.07 21:55:00 -
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Mr R4nd0m wrote:Solstice Project wrote:Why not ? O_o
Scams add character to the game. There's no real reason this shouldn't be allowed, even Vote-Scams. Hell ... people get manipulated and lied to all day long in reallife too.
You're ignoring the fact that there wouldn't be any scammers if there weren't any idiots falling for them. People don't need protection, they need to learn to take care of themselves. So its fine to have a group of csm that basically scammed their way to csm... awesome...
Yes. This is actually pretty much how it works in real life too. Different scam, same outcome.
The rules of EvE make it perfectly fine to scam for votes. Are you able to give an actual reason as to why it shouldn't be allowed ? A real reason. Not "it's unacceptable". That's no reason, that's just your opinion.
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Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
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Posted - 2012.03.07 21:55:00 -
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Lady Spank wrote:I take far greater exception to the mail-spamming Trebor is doing, what a jerk.
Agreed. Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |
Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
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Posted - 2012.03.07 21:57:00 -
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Valei Khurelem wrote:CSM is a classic example of taking a game too damn seriously that's why I won't even bother voting.
Says the guy who keeps on ranting about people in a video game.
Funny.
Edit: I could have actually put these three posts into one ... my bad. Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |
Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
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Posted - 2012.03.07 21:58:00 -
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Scamming in game and of in game assets is allowed.
The CSM is arguably part of the game, and hence the votes are just another asset that Darius is scamming us out of.
Didn't matter for me though, I went with someone whose history I knew, and trusted a little more than I can shoot them. |
Mr R4nd0m
Retribution.
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Posted - 2012.03.07 21:59:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:Mr R4nd0m wrote:Solstice Project wrote:Why not ? O_o
Scams add character to the game. There's no real reason this shouldn't be allowed, even Vote-Scams. Hell ... people get manipulated and lied to all day long in reallife too.
You're ignoring the fact that there wouldn't be any scammers if there weren't any idiots falling for them. People don't need protection, they need to learn to take care of themselves. So its fine to have a group of csm that basically scammed their way to csm... awesome... Yes. This is actually pretty much how it works in real life too. Different scam, same outcome. The rules of EvE make it perfectly fine to scam for votes. Are you able to give an actual reason as to why it shouldn't be allowed ? A real reason. Not "it's unacceptable". That's no reason, that's just your opinion.
Sorry it works in real life too? What? Does it? I think i would like to know which country and electoral system you come from |
THE L0CK
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.03.07 22:02:00 -
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Mr R4nd0m wrote:Solstice Project wrote:Mr R4nd0m wrote:Solstice Project wrote:Why not ? O_o
Scams add character to the game. There's no real reason this shouldn't be allowed, even Vote-Scams. Hell ... people get manipulated and lied to all day long in reallife too.
You're ignoring the fact that there wouldn't be any scammers if there weren't any idiots falling for them. People don't need protection, they need to learn to take care of themselves. So its fine to have a group of csm that basically scammed their way to csm... awesome... Yes. This is actually pretty much how it works in real life too. Different scam, same outcome. The rules of EvE make it perfectly fine to scam for votes. Are you able to give an actual reason as to why it shouldn't be allowed ? A real reason. Not "it's unacceptable". That's no reason, that's just your opinion. Sorry it works in real life too? What? Does it? I think i would like to know which country and electoral system you come from
Well I did hear this big thing about Change! though I seem to have ended up with 4 more years of the same...... Do you smell what the Lock's cooking? |
Mr R4nd0m
Retribution.
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Posted - 2012.03.07 22:02:00 -
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Corina Jarr wrote:Scamming in game and of in game assets is allowed.
The CSM is arguably part of the game, and hence the votes are just another asset that Darius is scamming us out of.
Didn't matter for me though, I went with someone whose history I knew, and trusted a little more than I can shoot them.
No no no, im sorry but i cant agree with this. Scamming your way onto the CSM is not on, sorry but its not.. It just makes a mockery of the whole thing...
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Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
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Posted - 2012.03.07 22:08:00 -
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Mr R4nd0m wrote:Sorry it works in real life too? What? Does it? I think i would like to know which country and electoral system you come from
Yes, it does. It doesn't wonder me that you're not realizing it, though.
Never wondered why politicians need others to write their speeches ? Never heard of Neurolinguistic programming ?
Never realized that politicians are quite picky about what they are saying and that they often actually say nothing, although they use plenty of words ?
Never ever heard a politician lie ?
Never noticed that politicians give goodies before the next soon-to-come election ?
Or think of Obama.
"YES WE CAN!!" ... one of the bigger scams. It manipulated the feelings of the people in a quite awesome way ... and he won. Totally understandable that he won ... he did the right thing at the right time.
But did it really change anything ? No.
Politics nowadays is about manipulating the masses. That's no conspiracy, that's just how it works nowadays.
Science at it's best. Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |
Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
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Posted - 2012.03.07 22:09:00 -
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Mr R4nd0m wrote:No no no, im sorry but i cant agree with this. Scamming your way onto the CSM is not on, sorry but its not.. It just makes a mockery of the whole thing...
Exactly like in real life.
Welcome to enlightenment. :)
Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |
Mr R4nd0m
Retribution.
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Posted - 2012.03.07 22:10:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:Mr R4nd0m wrote:Sorry it works in real life too? What? Does it? I think i would like to know which country and electoral system you come from Yes, it does. It doesn't wonder me that you're not realizing it, though. Never wondered why politicians need others to write their speeches ? Never heard of Neurolinguistic programming ? Never realized that politicians are quite picky about what they are saying and that they often actually say nothing, although they use plenty of words ? Never ever heard a politician lie ? Never noticed that politicians give goodies before the next soon-to-come election ? Or think of Obama. "YES WE CAN!!" ... one of the bigger scams. It manipulated the feelings of the people in a quite awesome way ... and he won. Totally understandable that he won ... he did the right thing at the right time. But did it really change anything ? No. Politics nowadays is about manipulating the masses. That's no conspiracy, that's just how it works nowadays. Science at it's best.
What you about thats not the same thing at all. Hacve you had a politicia come up to you and say ill promise to give you $100 for your vote, and then say sorry thanks for the vote but your not getting anything.. Hmmm i dont think so...
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Mr R4nd0m
Retribution.
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Posted - 2012.03.07 22:11:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:Mr R4nd0m wrote:No no no, im sorry but i cant agree with this. Scamming your way onto the CSM is not on, sorry but its not.. It just makes a mockery of the whole thing... Exactly like in real life. Welcome to enlightenment. :)
You live in some weird world in your head... |
Obsidian Hawk
RONA Corporation RONA Directorate
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Posted - 2012.03.07 22:11:00 -
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Mr R4nd0m wrote:Solstice Project wrote:Why not ? O_o
Scams add character to the game. There's no real reason this shouldn't be allowed, even Vote-Scams. Hell ... people get manipulated and lied to all day long in reallife too.
You're ignoring the fact that there wouldn't be any scammers if there weren't any idiots falling for them. People don't need protection, they need to learn to take care of themselves. So its fine to have a group of csm that basically scammed their way to csm... awesome...
How is this different from any other elected government in the world? |
Mr R4nd0m
Retribution.
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Posted - 2012.03.07 22:17:00 -
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Obsidian Hawk wrote:Mr R4nd0m wrote:Solstice Project wrote:Why not ? O_o
Scams add character to the game. There's no real reason this shouldn't be allowed, even Vote-Scams. Hell ... people get manipulated and lied to all day long in reallife too.
You're ignoring the fact that there wouldn't be any scammers if there weren't any idiots falling for them. People don't need protection, they need to learn to take care of themselves. So its fine to have a group of csm that basically scammed their way to csm... awesome... How is this different from any other elected government in the world?
Please DO NOT compare real life politics to eve. Its a game and not the same at all, in anyway shape or form. RL politicians do have to follow certain codes of practice. Yes there are some dodgy ones, but once they get found out they are removed, arrested, dealt with etc.. In eve there seems to be no such codes of practice. |
Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
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Posted - 2012.03.07 22:20:00 -
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Mr R4nd0m wrote:Obsidian Hawk wrote:Mr R4nd0m wrote:Solstice Project wrote:Why not ? O_o
Scams add character to the game. There's no real reason this shouldn't be allowed, even Vote-Scams. Hell ... people get manipulated and lied to all day long in reallife too.
You're ignoring the fact that there wouldn't be any scammers if there weren't any idiots falling for them. People don't need protection, they need to learn to take care of themselves. So its fine to have a group of csm that basically scammed their way to csm... awesome... How is this different from any other elected government in the world? Please DO NOT compare real life politics to eve. Its a game and not the same at all, in anyway shape or form.
You don't get it. It doesn't matter what type of scam it is ... it's still a scam.
Besides, pre-election politicians often promise money. There's no difference.
The comparison works perfectly here, because that's just the way it is.
There's really no difference, but in real life it's actually worse.
In real life, scams are actually illegal but politicians can do whatever they want. In EvE, scams are actually legal ... so why shouldn't they do what they are allowed to do anyway ?
You still failed to give a valid reason to why it shouldn't.
I must say that the world in YOUR head seriously doesn't seem on par with what's actually going on around you. Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |
Mr R4nd0m
Retribution.
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Posted - 2012.03.07 22:21:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:Mr R4nd0m wrote:Obsidian Hawk wrote:Mr R4nd0m wrote:Solstice Project wrote:Why not ? O_o
Scams add character to the game. There's no real reason this shouldn't be allowed, even Vote-Scams. Hell ... people get manipulated and lied to all day long in reallife too.
You're ignoring the fact that there wouldn't be any scammers if there weren't any idiots falling for them. People don't need protection, they need to learn to take care of themselves. So its fine to have a group of csm that basically scammed their way to csm... awesome... How is this different from any other elected government in the world? Please DO NOT compare real life politics to eve. Its a game and not the same at all, in anyway shape or form. You don't get it. It doesn't matter what type of scam it is ... it's still a scam. The comparison works perfectly here, because that's just the way it is. There's really no difference, but in real life it's actually worse. In real life, scams are actually illegal but politicians can do whatever they want. In EvE, scams are actually legal ... so why shouldn't they do what they are allowed to do anyway ? You still failed to give a valid reason to why it shouldn't.
No you fail at understanding politicians can not DO WHAT THEY WANT. They must follow some code of practice, as i have mentioned above. If they get caught abusing the system, then they are dealt with...I mean ofc there is corruption everywhere, politicians, police etc, but if they get found out, they have consequences to pay. You tell me where a politician in a democratic world, who has been found out of some sort of corruption, breaking of code of practice has just been allowed to stay in post? |
Ai Shun
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Posted - 2012.03.07 23:06:00 -
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Mr R4nd0m wrote:Scamming in game (although i think it ruins the game) is all fine and dandy. But to scam votes (ppl like darius, and im sure ppl like mittani etc do it too) is going a bit too far. Surely CCP you dont allow this too? Making a mockery of the an already flawed system. CCP ffs start putting some rules around this. Jeez its probably the most abused, corrupt, dodgy and manipulative voting system i have ever seen, Having to scam your way onto the CSM? Really?
I have a few thoughts on this.
1. EVE is game built with scamming in mind. Smart people avoid the scams. Others fall for them. 2. I am sorry you did not get the PLEX you wanted. Greed can often be your undoing. 3. The person accepting the bribe is just as corrupt as the person offering it. 4. Making allegations that people are doing something when there are, at best, screencaps of one doing it is a disgusting, reprehensible activity you seal clubber*.
* Well, I don't know if you really go out there and club baby seals. Or beat your wife. But I'm not going to say you do something until I have *proof* you do it. Otherwise I am just slandering your name for no purpose. Why do you do that kind of thing? |
evereplicant
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.03.07 23:09:00 -
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Ai Shun wrote:Mr R4nd0m wrote:Scamming in game (although i think it ruins the game) is all fine and dandy. But to scam votes (ppl like darius, and im sure ppl like mittani etc do it too) is going a bit too far. Surely CCP you dont allow this too? Making a mockery of the an already flawed system. CCP ffs start putting some rules around this. Jeez its probably the most abused, corrupt, dodgy and manipulative voting system i have ever seen, Having to scam your way onto the CSM? Really? I have a few thoughts on this. 1. EVE is game built with scamming in mind. Smart people avoid the scams. Others fall for them. 2. I am sorry you did not get the PLEX you wanted. Greed can often be your undoing. 3. The person accepting the bribe is just as corrupt as the person offering it. 4. Making allegations that people are doing something when there are, at best, screencaps of one doing it is a disgusting, reprehensible activity you seal clubber*. * Well, I don't know if you really go out there and club baby seals. Or beat your wife. But I'm not going to say you do something until I have *proof* you do it. Otherwise I am just slandering your name for no purpose. Why do you do that kind of thing?
even i dont have a clue what you are saying..
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Ai Shun
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Posted - 2012.03.07 23:20:00 -
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evereplicant wrote:even i dont have a clue what you are saying..
That's okay. The intended audience was not an e.e. cummings impersonator.
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Samillian
Moonshine Industries The Last Chancers.
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Posted - 2012.03.07 23:36:00 -
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Scamming for votes came to EvE about 3 seconds after there was something to vote for. |
Darth Gustav
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2012.03.07 23:44:00 -
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Samillian wrote:Scamming for votes came to EvE about 3 seconds after there was something to vote for.
I hear some people meta-game wardec votes still.
Wouldn't that be scamming for votes?
Well? Another scam over another game.
I bet the OP doesn't bluff in poker, either. I'm sure he's quite a winner. He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom |
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