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Docter Daniel Jackson
Hendrix Angels Fabricated Confabulations
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Posted - 2012.03.08 09:08:00 -
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Aubrey Addams wrote:so there will be no ability to meet dust players in stations. and no ability to meet my eve-friends in stations, because ccp just focusing fis, because a bunch of retards shooted a statue and whined all the forums. nice.
Welcome to eve. :)
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Ai Shun
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Posted - 2012.03.08 09:10:00 -
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Docter Daniel Jackson wrote:Just these words here say to me that your worried about a PC shooter been hocked up to a PS3, when the PS3 will have mouse and keyboard added to it anyway.
That's clearer, thanks.
In response, worried is perhaps a strong word. But, it is something to keep in mind because there is a difference. It would do no software any good if there were great disparities in the experience between different interfaces.
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Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.03.08 09:18:00 -
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as far as i remember, there was an thread some times ago about this particular "problem"
And as far as i know, all keyboard and mouse interfaces for playing got implemented some kind of "balance" by generally making it harder to use, just like putting sensitivity of your mouse to -500000 / or something like that..
So using mouse and keyboard actually should not provide any advantage and become more like the choice of familiarity..
Also in that thread there were some lines about why should i use controller why they dont use keyboard..
Well answer for that was quite simple Why should they, It is primarily an console FPS, Console players generally use controllers and are more familiar with it. What is the difference between you and them, why they should learn to controll an new interface, when the new interface is actually not an standart package for PS3. If you feel some kind of superiority that you are awesome then learn to play with controller..
well just thought i put it in there. |
JitaPriceChecker2
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.08 09:50:00 -
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I am definitely buying PC version of dust to enrich my EVE experience.
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Miss Whippy
Bloody Limeys
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Posted - 2012.03.08 11:33:00 -
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On the PC! What are all those DUST apologists and fanboys who've already bought their playstations going to do now?! Highjacking every thread possible in the campaign to END THE CLICK FEST and RUBBISH NAVIGATION in EvE. |
Valei Khurelem
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Posted - 2012.03.08 12:22:00 -
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JitaPriceChecker2 wrote:I am definitely buying PC version of dust to enrich my EVE experience.
if they have any common sense they'll give it out as an expansion for free like they always do for PC players who put up with their b.s.
"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP." -á - CCP Ytterbium |
Kata Amentis
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2012.03.08 12:35:00 -
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I think you should look at the timing... pre reshuffle at CCP when :awesome: was the order of the day, pc space linking to ps3 ground was :awesome: and that's what was going to come out, to hell with anything else.
Post resuffle, they're probably looking at the realities of what people want a little more than what is :awesome: and the pc port becomes a "nudgenudgewinkwink"...
I guess "when" will be determined by whatever agreement was signed with Sony, if they've got terms for a PS3 exclusive for x number of months (when it was :awesome:) it'll be a while until the pc version comes out regardless. Curiosity killed the Kata...
... but being immortal he wasn't too worried about keeping a count. |
Blatant Forum Alt
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.08 12:35:00 -
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Jada Maroo wrote:Make Dust PC. Make it so that you get into yoru Dust suit when you leave CQ. Call it Incarna with guns. Success!
Oh. My. God.
I was wrong. It is possible for WiS to not be mega terribad.
I salute you sir.
Now make it happen. |
Cailais
Rekall Incorporated Sinewave Alliance
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Posted - 2012.03.08 12:45:00 -
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It also looks as if the market is not going to be nearly as closely integrated as we had been led to believe.
Disappointing.
C. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2012.03.08 14:27:00 -
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Adunh Slavy wrote:Bet there is a considerable wait, even if a "nudge and wink" can be taken seriously.
Well yeah, there's a 1-year exclusivity deal with Sony. So if it launches at fanfest this year, then it can be available on the PC no sooner than 12 months after that. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
3125
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Posted - 2012.03.08 14:28:00 -
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Valei Khurelem wrote:JitaPriceChecker2 wrote:I am definitely buying PC version of dust to enrich my EVE experience.
if they have any common sense they'll give it out as an expansion for free like they always do for PC players who put up with their b.s.
Well if it's F2P on the PS3, why wouldn't it be F2P for the PC? Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
Wilhelm Riley
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.08 14:30:00 -
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JitaPriceChecker2 wrote:I am definitely buying PC version of dust to enrich my EVE experience.
Jeez, it wasn't a confirmation, don't get your hopes up. |
Jame Jarl Retief
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.08 14:52:00 -
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You know what would REALLY tick me off?
Dust releases for PS3. And it's good. Oh, so good.
I break down, and drop $250 on a PS3.
A day later CCP announces Dust is coming to PC in less than a month.
Grrrr....
If they're going to port it to PC is certain conditions are met, I hope they tell us sooner rather than later. |
Valei Khurelem
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Posted - 2012.03.08 14:54:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Valei Khurelem wrote:JitaPriceChecker2 wrote:I am definitely buying PC version of dust to enrich my EVE experience.
if they have any common sense they'll give it out as an expansion for free like they always do for PC players who put up with their b.s. Well if it's F2P on the PS3, why wouldn't it be F2P for the PC?
Because CCP have an insane marketing department that the management actually listens to.
"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP." -á - CCP Ytterbium |
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
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Posted - 2012.03.08 18:21:00 -
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Asuka Solo wrote:I've set aside moniez for a copy of Dust, but not a PS3.
I wonder why I did that.... /wink
This. :)
I will buy Dust if it comes out on PC.
I may or may not evaluate finances and see if the funding is there for exploring another dead-end console purchase, but I find it highly unlikely. I know me, I'm pretty opinionated and a hard-ass about money. :) If you're reading my sig you cannot claim ignorance, only stupidity or apathy, if you don't go VOTE now for CSM7. |
ivar R'dhak
STK Scientific
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Posted - 2012.03.08 21:24:00 -
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Was that an interview for the new ADD "it-¦s got electrolytes" generation?
About 5 sentences and that-¦s it?
Oh well, at least it seems to be enough for the usual EVE "PVP" thread. |
Trainwreck McGee
Ghost Ship Inc.
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Posted - 2012.03.08 22:02:00 -
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I actually have a PS3 but i will only play it if it comes out for PC because i will not support CCP being dumb as ****. CCP Trainwreck - Weekend Custodial Engineer / CCP Necrogoats foot stool |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2012.03.08 22:14:00 -
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Ai Shun wrote:Docter Daniel Jackson wrote:... PS3 is going to have mouse and keyboard anyway. Also Microsoft are not good game designers anymore which is why it probable failed to begin with. lets wait and see what happens because we jump the gun again Ai Shun. 1. Not for all players. Only those that invest in a mouse and keyboard.
A USB keyboard & mouse costs what? $10? $12?
Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
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Posted - 2012.03.08 22:20:00 -
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They will put mouse and keyboard support in because they are literally idiots.
It is really not a good idea to place players with two wildly different control schemes competeing against each other. The game as a whole would be better if the playing fields were as level as possible. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
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Posted - 2012.03.08 22:21:00 -
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Miss Whippy wrote:On the PC! What are all those DUST apologists and fanboys who've already bought their playstations going to do now?!
Continue to beat the snot out of my daughter and her room mate in her favorite version of Tekken while she is away at college. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1200
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Posted - 2012.03.08 22:22:00 -
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Valei Khurelem wrote:JitaPriceChecker2 wrote:I am definitely buying PC version of dust to enrich my EVE experience.
if they have any common sense they'll give it out as an expansion for free like they always do for PC players who put up with their b.s.
DUST is already confirmed to be a free download, they decided the $20 "deposit" was confusing the hell out of people.
When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2012.03.08 22:30:00 -
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Patient 2428190 wrote:They will put mouse and keyboard support in because they are literally idiots.
It is really not a good idea to place players with two wildly different control schemes competeing against each other. The game as a whole would be better if the playing fields were as level as possible.
If someone is playing DUST rather than $GENERIC_FPS it's becaus of the persistent and social aspects of the game. I keyboard is pretty much mandatory for that side.
Seriously, is it really worth bawwing about a cheap USB KB&M? Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic Tragedy.
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Posted - 2012.03.08 22:46:00 -
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THREAD DERAILMENT INCOMING!
Quote:We didn't let CCP escape without snagging a couple of nuggets about EVE and World of Darkness. As far as EVE is concerned, CCP's development focus this year is on "flying in space" (contrasted with "walking in stations"). World of Darkness, meanwhile, is not on hold as rumored. In fact, a "rather large" team of 60 devs is focused on bringing the World of Darkness to light.
From the same article. Let the rage begin...
I say good for you CCP! I may never actually play WoD. My wife will. But I hope it makes you all tons and tons of green stuff!
On the subject at hand...I have always figured that a PC version is coming. It is just a matter of time. Making it a PS3 exclusive, even if only initially, is just a way to get more of the console players hooked and make money. It is a logical and smart business decision. EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-á Open the door!!! |
Blatant Forum Alt
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.09 08:32:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Adunh Slavy wrote:Bet there is a considerable wait, even if a "nudge and wink" can be taken seriously. Well yeah, there's a 1-year exclusivity deal with Sony. So if it launches at fanfest this year, then it can be available on the PC no sooner than 12 months after that.
PS3 FPS games dont last 1 year. If this is true, then there will be loads of Dust/Eve integration for the first two, maybe three months, before the Dust population tails off massively to insignificant levels. Opening it up to the PC at least within the first month of release will make the population of Dust players last far, far longer - the communities that still play games more than a year or two old are almost exclusively PC gamers, and if Dust is any good, there is a good chance that a PC based Dust community will last for years to come, which is essential for the Dust/Eve integration to work. If there are only 10k players total who still play Dust after 1 year, then the whole thing will have just been a cash grab, and us Eve players will be back where we started - perhaps with another alt account for Dust, rather than just the four you would otherwise have for Eve. |
Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
103
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Posted - 2012.03.09 12:37:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Patient 2428190 wrote:They will put mouse and keyboard support in because they are literally idiots.
It is really not a good idea to place players with two wildly different control schemes competeing against each other. The game as a whole would be better if the playing fields were as level as possible. If someone is playing DUST rather than $GENERIC_FPS it's becaus of the persistent and social aspects of the game. I keyboard is pretty much mandatory for that side. Seriously, is it really worth bawwing about a cheap USB KB&M?
It unbalances game play just by the hardware, giving one side an undeniable advantage making it patently unfair. While you could argue that EVE is an unfair game, a console FPS isn't the game where you want people having a hugely distinct advantage over each other. You play with the same controllers, on the same console with the same technical specs as everybody else has.
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Valei Khurelem
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Posted - 2012.03.09 13:18:00 -
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Quote:It unbalances game play just by the hardware, giving one side an undeniable advantage making it patently unfair. While you could argue that EVE is an unfair game, a console FPS isn't the game where you want people having a hugely distinct advantage over each other. You play with the same controllers, on the same console with the same technical specs as everybody else has.
EVE is a cold harsh universe! You should have bought a gaming PC with a mouse and keyboard you ******* noob!
"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP." -á - CCP Ytterbium |
Grimpak
Midnight Elites Echelon Rising
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Posted - 2012.03.09 13:41:00 -
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Patient 2428190 wrote:They will put mouse and keyboard support in because they are literally idiots.
It is really not a good idea to place players with two wildly different control schemes competeing against each other. The game as a whole would be better if the playing fields were as level as possible.
yes and buying a USB kboard + mouse is such an expensive venture!
I mean, you can't get like 2 or 3 of those for the price of a PS3 controller no siree!
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[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |
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