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Aidan Ordway
32nd Amarrian Imperial Navy Regiment
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Posted - 2008.07.09 08:11:00 -
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I completely agree. Drones are a main source of damage and it would be great to have mods to increase their damage just like other weapons, and their tracking speed. It'd be exactly like fitting on damage mods for your own turrets.
Though I think the +25 bandwidth mod needs to be looked at a bit. Consider the smallest ship that should be able to benefit from it (Cruiser?) and give it a PG requirement in-line with the highest level weapons. It would allow players to add up to 125 bandwidth while completely sacrificing their own weapon systems, allowing them heavy drones on any ship, while severely limiting their own capabilities. Perhaps even consider making versions of it like Afterburners. Frigate, Cruiser, and Battleship versions, so you can't have a battleship apply two to be able to use heavies while taking almost no PG hits at all, while this also allows Frigates to increase their abilities as well.
As for the increasing drone bay, I recommend a rig as well as low-slot module. Kinda like the Cargo Expander modules and the Cargo Optimization rigs.
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Aidan Ordway
Amarr
32nd Amarrian Imperial Navy Regiment
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Posted - 2008.07.09 09:00:00 -
[62]
 Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto
Auxiliary Control Link I
Requires 1000 PG, 40 CPU, High slot
+25 MBit/s bandwidth
Requires Advanced Drone Interfacing I
To further expand on my ideas to make this a bit more viable for all ships:
Limited Auxiliary Control Link I
Requires ~9 PG, ~15 CPU, High Slot
+5 MBit/s bandwidth
Requires Advanced Drone Interfacing I
*Note*: This is a Frigate class module.
Auxiliary Control Link I
Requires ~175 PG, ~25 CPU, High Slot
+25 MBit/s bandwidth
Requires Advanced Drone Interfacing II
Using the Limited Auxiliary Control Link I on the Ishkur, IIRC the only "drone boat" frigate with the largest drone bay and the most bandwidth, with it's 4 high slots this would only give it an additional +20 bandwidth at max, thus enabling it to field 4 medium drones and a single small drone, while completely sacrificing it's bonuses to hybrid turrets.
With 3 150mm Railgun IIs and a Stab II, this thing fits 94 DPS without it's 5 light drones at all skills level 5. 193 DPS w/ Drones.
With 4 Limited Auxiliary Control Link Is, it's DPS is: 147.
The reason for allowing Cruisers and above to fit a +25 model is simple: A few HACs can already achieve 125 bandwidth, such as the Ishtar. Allowing other ships to match the Ishtar while significantly lowering their own DPS via sacrificing their own bonuses for weapons seems like a decent trade-off for this to take up 2-3 high slots. For Battleships it's the same. You'll be unlikely to see this used for many ships though, but for Drone Boats like the Arbitrator, Myrmidon and Vexor this is a nice little module. Can also be useful for a lot of Battleships which are only able to field light drones. However, they'd also require losing a low-slot or rig to be able to use this properly by increasing their drone bay capacity.
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XLR Eight
Viziam
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Posted - 2008.07.09 09:52:00 -
[63]
Edited by: XLR Eight on 09/07/2008 09:53:58
Suported.
Also, webber drones should be able to catch nanoships.
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Ivena Amethyst
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Posted - 2008.07.09 10:15:00 -
[64]
/supported
more drone modules are needed
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Cyberman Mastermind
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Posted - 2008.07.09 14:24:00 -
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Cpt Jagermeister
Spacelane Ghosts
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Posted - 2008.07.09 16:20:00 -
[66]
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Herschel Yamamoto
Bloodmoney Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.07.09 19:37:00 -
[67]
Originally by: XLR Eight
Edited by: XLR Eight on 09/07/2008 09:53:58
Suported.
Also, webber drones should be able to catch nanoships.
Why do you think I included light and medium webber drones? Ideally speaking, you could launch a rack of light webbers, slowly swap out the drones for mediums individually(since the ship is now slow enough for medium webbers to catch), and then do the same with heavies. It'd only be viable on a serious drone boat(Domi/Ishtar), but you could get the equivalent of an X5 web on anything slower than a ceptor.
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Hamfast
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Posted - 2008.07.09 19:40:00 -
[68]
Aye!!!
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Madam Kaktar
Jenova's Witnesses
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Posted - 2008.07.09 20:14:00 -
[69]
Drones are my least favorite weapon platform, but I definitely support this.
As far as the Auxiliary Control Unit, I think it should have 3 sizes, one for each ship size. +5Mb/s for frigates/destroyers with PG requirements in line with small turrets. (Probably lower than a turret, but comparable) +10 Mb/s for cruisers/BCs and +25Mb/s for BSs. I'd like to see these have +drone bay/-cargo capacity equal to the bandwidth with the T2 version having double the drone bay increase.
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Aidan Ordway
Amarr
32nd Amarrian Imperial Navy Regiment
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Posted - 2008.07.09 21:01:00 -
[70]
Edited by: Aidan Ordway on 09/07/2008 21:04:58
Originally by: Madam Kaktar
Drones are my least favorite weapon platform, but I definitely support this.
As far as the Auxiliary Control Unit, I think it should have 3 sizes, one for each ship size. +5Mb/s for frigates/destroyers with PG requirements in line with small turrets. (Probably lower than a turret, but comparable) +10 Mb/s for cruisers/BCs and +25Mb/s for BSs. I'd like to see these have +drone bay/-cargo capacity equal to the bandwidth with the T2 version having double the drone bay increase.
I was thinking of having three sizes as well and having the Cruiser module be the +10, but then I looked and realized that this would create a lot of problems. Mainly you'll be able to have Cruisers with 130 MBit/s bandwidth. It isn't even, while +5 and +25 are far better options to deal with.
For example: The Arbitrator has four High Slots. With four +10s, that would give them 90 bandwidth, a rather terrible number. You can field 3 heavy drones, 1 medium and 1 light to use it completely, but looking at how cruisers and above tend to have their drone bandwidth, it just doesn't fit in properly. A +25 module would be far better, especially for Battlecruisers. A lot of Battlecruisers have 25, 50 and 75. If you increased these by 10 you'd get some rather weird numbers. If I'm in a Drake and want to use Medium drones, I have to sacrifice 3 slots dedicated to these, as well as a low-slot Drone Bay expander, or even a rig slot. And that'll give me 55 bandwidth. A +25 version would help prevent a lot of strange numbered bandwidth as well as useless amounts left over. You still need to field a drone bay expander, so this wont be something ideal you put on EVERY ship out there.
Also, we already have a module that increases Drone Bay size. It's a low slot module that is similar to a Cargo Expander and should work the same way. It severely limits what sort of ships can actually benefit from these increases to bandwidth, but it's a balancing act. +10 modules would just make for wacky bandwidth, while +5 and +25 are far more even.
Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto
Drone Bay Expander I/II
Requires 0 PG, 0 CPU, Low slot
+20/25% drone bay capacity, -15%/-10% speed and -25%/-20% structure HP.
Requires Hull Upgrades II/IV
These should not increase the drone bay by a percentage. That works for Cargo Holds, but for those you have any number of items that can be put inside. For these? It should be +25 and +50, because Drones always come in sizes of 5, 10 and 25. If you increase it by a pecentage you might come up with 17.5, which is *half* of a light drone.
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TimGascoigne
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Posted - 2008.07.09 22:20:00 -
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White Ronin
Gallente
Screenout
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Posted - 2008.07.10 03:54:00 -
[72]
Edited by: White Ronin on 10/07/2008 03:54:44
Originally by: White Ronin
Supported.
Not gunna happen.
Idiot.
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MenanceWhite
Red Light Navy
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Posted - 2008.07.10 12:01:00 -
[73]
yes
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Originally by: Torfi
There's alot. That can be done. With.. corpses
Originally by: Oveur
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Siebenthal
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Posted - 2008.07.15 13:34:00 -
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