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Sprite Can
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Posted - 2012.03.08 20:18:00 -
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As someone with Battlecruiser V who flies Gallente, Minmatar, and Caldari Battlecruisers regularly, I'm a little concerned about the skilltree changes. Am I going to be receiving Racial Battlecruiser V for every race because I have BC V now, or am I going to have to retrain BC V for almost every race? Refreshing Lemon-Lime~ |
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
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Posted - 2012.03.08 20:19:00 -
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Sprite Can wrote:As someone with Battlecruiser V who flies Gallente, Minmatar, and Caldari Battlecruisers regularly, I'm a little concerned about the skilltree changes. Am I going to be receiving Racial Battlecruiser V for every race because I have BC V now, or am I going to have to retrain BC V for almost every race?
Derp?
If you're reading my sig you cannot claim ignorance, only stupidity or apathy, if you don't go VOTE now for CSM7. |
TheBreadMuncher
Boxxed Up Industries
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Posted - 2012.03.08 20:20:00 -
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Sprite Can wrote:As someone with Battlecruiser V who flies Gallente, Minmatar, and Caldari Battlecruisers regularly, I'm a little concerned about the skilltree changes. Am I going to be receiving Racial Battlecruiser V for every race because I have BC V now, or am I going to have to retrain BC V for almost every race?
I have racist battlecruiser concerns too. Dem cracker gallente ships...
Seriously though, I believe one CCP guy said you'd get all 4 races. |
Azure Moonlight
Atomic Core Industries and Science
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Posted - 2012.03.08 20:23:00 -
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Most likely you get the skillpoints in BC5 back and can reallocate them. Like when learning skills were removed.
So yeah, maybe you will have to invest some training afterwards if you want them all on Lvl5 again.
But hey, finally something useful to learn. For your attention! Market order modification fee (anti-botting, more interesting trading) https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=78351 |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2012.03.08 20:25:00 -
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Sprite Can wrote:As someone with Battlecruiser V who flies Gallente, Minmatar, and Caldari Battlecruisers regularly, I'm a little concerned about the skilltree changes. Am I going to be receiving Racial Battlecruiser V for every race because I have BC V now, or am I going to have to retrain BC V for almost every race? Have you tried reading the blog and the comment thread attached to it? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants. |
Alara IonStorm
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Posted - 2012.03.08 20:26:00 -
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War Kitten wrote:Sprite Can wrote:As someone with Battlecruiser V who flies Gallente, Minmatar, and Caldari Battlecruisers regularly, I'm a little concerned about the skilltree changes. Am I going to be receiving Racial Battlecruiser V for every race because I have BC V now, or am I going to have to retrain BC V for almost every race? Derp? Confirmed.
Also:
CCP Ytterbium wrote:Destroyer and Battlecruiser reimbursement: it has been said before, but allow us to repeat again, that we do not want to cut ships you can already fly. Thus, having BC skill at 5 would mean you get all four variations at 5.
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Marcus Harikari
Guitar Players of EVE
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Posted - 2012.03.08 20:27:00 -
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Oh, this is going to be a pain in the butt. |
Sprite Can
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Posted - 2012.03.08 20:28:00 -
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Found my answer. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=900335#post900335
Thanks. Refreshing Lemon-Lime~ |
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
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Posted - 2012.03.08 20:33:00 -
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You're blonde aren't you? If you're reading my sig you cannot claim ignorance, only stupidity or apathy, if you don't go VOTE now for CSM7. |
Sprite Can
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Posted - 2012.03.08 20:34:00 -
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No. Why? Refreshing Lemon-Lime~ |
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Liam Mirren
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Posted - 2012.03.08 20:36:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Sprite Can wrote:As someone with Battlecruiser V who flies Gallente, Minmatar, and Caldari Battlecruisers regularly, I'm a little concerned about the skilltree changes. Am I going to be receiving Racial Battlecruiser V for every race because I have BC V now, or am I going to have to retrain BC V for almost every race? Have you tried reading the blog and the comment thread attached to it?
Stop being optimistic.
Excellence is not a skill, it's an attitude.
My guides: http://mirren.freeforums.org |
xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers Galactic-Rangers
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Posted - 2012.03.08 23:01:00 -
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pro tip: brain in gear before mouth in motion
pro tip for Dummies: think about your question, do some research (google) before you start a thread that you then answer yourself in.
thanks for the lolz though. |
Niomi Sharisa
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.03.08 23:59:00 -
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So what about people who have BC IV? Iv read through the dev blog and haven't found a clear answer for this. Will i get all four racial BC skills at Lvl IV (this would be odd as i only have the prerequisite cruiser skills for Gal and Minm) . Seems like it would make more sense to reimburse the skill points to do with as i wish. |
Grey Azorria
Federation Industries
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Posted - 2012.03.09 00:22:00 -
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Niomi Sharisa wrote:So what about people who have BC IV? Iv read through the dev blog and haven't found a clear answer for this. Will i get all four racial BC skills at Lvl IV (this would be odd as i only have the prerequisite cruiser skills for Gal and Minm) . Seems like it would make more sense to reimburse the skill points to do with as i wish. No, it doesn;t because then you will only beable to fly one race's BC as before, people who can fly all 4 race's will not be happy.
The 2 most likely options are either give everyone all 4 racial BC skills at the same level they had normal BC at, or give people racial BC at the at same level they had normal BC at, but only for the races for which they have racial cruiser 4. Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience. |
Sloppy Podfarts
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.03.09 01:12:00 -
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Very |
Drew Solaert
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.09 02:36:00 -
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I too wish I could be bothered to read the 3rd post in the comments thread before rushing to the forums to post something that has been mentioned on the hour every hour since the dev blog.
One day, I hope to be just as pro as you. For every player ship that blows up, the wheels of the economy turn slightly faster. -áDo your bit today. -áGo out and PEW.
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Aqriue
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.09 05:06:00 -
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I am having similar concerns, so popped BC 5 in today. Only thing I dislike about the change, that even with change at BC 4 and its split into Racial Battlecruiser....you now got 4 racial BC skills. What if you want them to 5 because all tier 2 battlecruiser are awesome? Opps, thats now 20 DAYS a piece to get the skills to 5 if you decide to fly a Harbringer, Hurricane, Drake, and Myrmidon. So...total skill plan is now 80 days longer for those that don't have maxed battlecruiser skills yet . Yeah, not such a fun idea to change something so trivial as battlecruiser and destroyers |
Valentyn3
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2012.03.09 05:29:00 -
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"This is a bad thread and now allow me to post in it detailing how it is a bad thread whilst bumping it to the top of the thread list."
My impression is that current players will be fine. Sucks for future people though. I don't always use hax. But when I do, it's because I'm an NPC.. http://i.imgur.com/PUZou.jpg
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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Industrial Complex Cosmic Consortium
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Posted - 2012.03.09 05:55:00 -
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You have to have Cruiser 3 to fly a BC anyway. You have to have Cruiser 5 to fly a command ship.
If you could fly it before racial BC, you can fly it after racial BC, and the only decision point will be whether you have racial cruiser 3 or higher. End of story. Quit whining. |
Ocih
Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums
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Posted - 2012.03.09 06:08:00 -
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I trained BC to 5. I thought it stood for Booty Call |
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Christopher AET
Segmentum Solar NEM3SIS.
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Posted - 2012.03.09 09:34:00 -
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Nooos but I <3 my Talooooooos!!!!!! |
Callimminniss Prdsk
Cyrix Ltd. Tamanium
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Posted - 2012.03.09 11:25:00 -
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Having read the devblog, I have to say I'm still not too sure what they have in mind.
Right now I can fly Amarr command ships, I sometimes fly Gallente BC too. With the proposed change, would I be able to fly all command ships, in which case I'd have all cruiser at level V? Lovely for me, but I can't help but thinking that's a bit wrong. Or would I just get Amarr BC to V and Gallente BC to III because I only have Gallente cruiser to III, and the other to to level 0 because I can't fly their BCs yet?
I'm feeling a bit slow on the uptake, but his is looking like a big bag of mess to sort out |
Masral Kabo
Peregrine Guard
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Posted - 2012.03.12 03:41:00 -
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OMG. I dont want any non-amarr skills. Just reimburse enough skill points to cover all racial BC skills to lvl 5. |
Florestan Bronstein
United Highsec Front The 99 Percent
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Posted - 2012.03.12 06:52:00 -
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Callimminniss Prdsk wrote:Having read the devblog, I have to say I'm still not too sure what they have in mind.
Right now I can fly Amarr command ships, I sometimes fly Gallente BC too. With the proposed change, would I be able to fly all command ships, in which case I'd have all cruiser at level V? Lovely for me, but I can't help but thinking that's a bit wrong. Or would I just get Amarr BC to V and Gallente BC to III because I only have Gallente cruiser to III, and the other to to level 0 because I can't fly their BCs yet?
I'm feeling a bit slow on the uptake, but his is looking like a big bag of mess to sort out the most likely solution is:
If you have Racial Cruiser III+, then you get Racial Battlecruiser at the level of your current Battlecruisers skill.
So in your example you would get Amarr BC V and Gallente BC V, your Racial Cruiser skills would remain unchanged. It would be smart to train Minmatar and Caldari Cruiser to III before the changes so you get all four Racial Battlecruiser skills at V though.
tl;dr to-do list before skill changes are implemented: train Destroyers V train Racial Frigate III for all races train Battlecruisers V train Racial Cruiser III
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Lady Aja
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Posted - 2012.03.12 11:07:00 -
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Callimminniss Prdsk wrote:Having read the devblog, I have to say I'm still not too sure what they have in mind.
Right now I can fly Amarr command ships, I sometimes fly Gallente BC too. With the proposed change, would I be able to fly all command ships, in which case I'd have all cruiser at level V? Lovely for me, but I can't help but thinking that's a bit wrong. Or would I just get Amarr BC to V and Gallente BC to III because I only have Gallente cruiser to III, and the other to to level 0 because I can't fly their BCs yet?
I'm feeling a bit slow on the uptake, but his is looking like a big bag of mess to sort out
#718 Posted: 2012.03.06 22:44 | Report | Edited by: CCP Ytterbium Like 64 Ok this thread needs some love now.
SKILLS:
GÇóDestroyer and Battlecruiser reimbursement: it has been said before, but allow us to repeat again, that we do not want to cut ships you can already fly. Thus, having BC skill at 5 would mean you get all four variations at 5.
GÇóBS skill at IV for capitals: alright, there is good feedback on that. Point is to make the progression consistent by requiring a skill at 4 to train for the next, higher size class, and 5 for tech 2 ships. If we feel it becomes suddenly too easy to train for capitals, we can always compensate by adding that time back on one of the other, support skill prerequisites for them. Same reasoning applies for freighters. The point of this blog is to specifically discuss such matters before moving forward with them, and for this, you are welcome.
or in other words..
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=900335#post900335 |
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