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tomato1
Drama Llamas
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Posted - 2012.03.08 23:53:00 -
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So short story i was doing incursions and people contest sights all the time. People trying to get dominance over the sights to make that isk and take it away from others. I'm in fleet chat and there talking about marking there terratory so the other fleets will go somewhere else so they dont loose that isk.....
So this is where it got me thinking why people have to pay for to hold sovernty in 0.0 which. In itself doesnt make sence wouldnt it create more of a drive if the systems you held generated you money automaticly just every cycle you would get x amount isk...not sure how much im sure a system could be figured out. but its kind of like a well fair check haha youd be damned if that was to be taken away money that just comes to you ..... you might even "fight" for it |
Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.03.09 00:09:00 -
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tomato1 wrote:So short story i was doing incursions and people contest sights all the time. People trying to get dominance over the sights to make that isk and take it away from others. I'm in fleet chat and there talking about marking there terratory so the other fleets will go somewhere else so they dont loose that isk.....
So this is where it got me thinking why people have to pay for to hold sovernty in 0.0 which. In itself doesnt make sence wouldnt it create more of a drive if the systems you held generated you money automaticly just every cycle you would get x amount isk...not sure how much im sure a system could be figured out. but its kind of like a well fair check haha youd be damned if that was to be taken away money that just comes to you ..... you might even "fight" for it right, in a time when isk faucets wildly gush isk beyond the capacity of the sinks, your wanting to create an isk FIRE HYDRANT, not cool.
and personally, paying fo SOV lore wise is supposed ot be paying CONCORD or somesuch, though ebcause its supposed to be lawless sapce, that doesnt make much sense. i prefer to think the SoV payments are my way of paying for all the little feudal slaves working for the glory of the honorable leaders down on the puny planets. |
Grey Azorria
Federation Industries
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Posted - 2012.03.09 00:12:00 -
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Sov pays in slighty less direct, and less isk faucety ways. Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience. |
Nalha Saldana
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.09 00:39:00 -
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Give more to the rich and less to the poor! Great idea.. Sov costs is to keep people away from holding space they do not use, ofc this wont work for the richest but its still a good mechanic. If anything make sov more expensive and make it cheaper the more you use it. |
tomato1
Drama Llamas
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Posted - 2012.03.09 04:35:00 -
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Nalha Saldana wrote:Give more to the rich and less to the poor! Great idea.. Sov costs is to keep people away from holding space they do not use, ofc this wont work for the richest but its still a good mechanic. If anything make sov more expensive and make it cheaper the more you use it.
see i think this is good idea problem with people on these forums is they rip apart every idea mostly cause they have closed minds....bit too many pad locks in there mind....look all i want is to have more people desire 0.0 if you think my idea sucks and is stupid fine...then dont post...i just thought if sov generated money then allainces would fight more..idk ;-P |
Ganthrithor
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.09 05:43:00 -
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Sov does make money, you just have to put members in it. The mechanism is called taxation, you may have heard of it. |
tomato1
Drama Llamas
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Posted - 2012.03.09 06:13:00 -
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Ganthrithor wrote:Sov does make money, you just have to put members in it. The mechanism is called taxation, you may have heard of it.
all my idea was to create more desire to hold space whether your a giant or small alliance...as well if you think about if you own the system could think its the people that live on the planets that are being TAXED :-P and are giving it to your alliance ;-PP just ideas man...juuust idea's F u person says yeah and its stupid idea |
Nalha Saldana
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.09 11:14:00 -
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The players and the CSM are trying to create a 0.0 where activity matters, this is just not the way to do it. |
Simi Kusoni
The Synergy Cascade Imminent
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Posted - 2012.03.09 11:32:00 -
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Nalha Saldana wrote:Give more to the rich and less to the poor! Great idea.. Sov costs is to keep people away from holding space they do not use, ofc this wont work for the richest but its still a good mechanic. If anything make sov more expensive and make it cheaper the more you use it. One of the biggest issues with sov, imho, is renting. The problem is due to renting it is always profitable for an alliance to take and hold more space, even if they don't "use" the space themselves. Worst situation, you can always stick some renters in there.
People will of course argue they are using it, for renting. But it has led to a situation where the existing powers control all the space, and new corps or alliances if they wish to have the benefits of sov are forced to pay us the majority of their profit. There aren't really any out of the way sov pockets no one wants or uses, like you find in null 0.0, because we've taken them and we're going to charge you rent if you want to live there.
This not only means a large amount of the profit for extremely large areas of space is funneled into a single alliance, it is also funneled into a small number of people in those alliances wallets.
tomato1 wrote:see i think this is good idea problem with people on these forums is they rip apart every idea mostly cause they have closed minds....bit too many pad locks in there mind....look all i want is to have more people desire 0.0 if you think my idea sucks and is stupid fine...then dont post...i just thought if sov generated money then allainces would fight more..idk ;-P We don't rip ideas apart because we are small minded, we rip ideas apart because the moment you stick something like this into game, players like us will begin tearing it apart and working out how to exploit it.
Tearing your own idea to shreds is something you should always do before you even post it, then list as many issues as you can see with it as possible. Pretending this is WoW and that the player base aren't going to abuse the crap out of everything the first chance they get won't magically turn Eve into a beautiful land of fairies and leprechauns. -áhttp://i.imgur.com/aWNfM.jpg |
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