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Gene Louise
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Posted - 2008.06.02 16:36:00 -
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I'm thinking about setting up a training plan to get into one of these bad boys. Was looking at the post below about the best 10 man gang and the rapier was in alot of people's setups.
Here is the setup:
[Rapier, New Setup 1] Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Overdrive Injector System II Nanofiber Internal Structure II
10MN MicroWarpdrive II Large Shield Extender II Sensor Booster II, Targeting Speed Warp Disruptor II Stasis Webifier II Stasis Webifier II
650mm Artillery Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M 650mm Artillery Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M 650mm Artillery Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M Recon Probe Launcher I, Snoop Scanner Probe I
Auxiliary Thrusters I Auxiliary Thrusters I
Warrior II x2 Valkyrie II x3
I would use this for roaming gangs of about 15. Any pointers on tactics would be much appreciated. And anything I'm missing.
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Gram Hellfire
Smoking Hillbillys Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2008.06.02 16:44:00 -
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I'd drop one gyrostab for a damage control 2. I'd drop the other for another Overdrive.
You have gang mates for DPS
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Yden D
cozy.
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Posted - 2008.06.02 16:46:00 -
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Why not use a huginn if your not gonna fit a cloak
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DubanFP
Four Rings Souls of Vengeance
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Posted - 2008.06.02 16:49:00 -
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Edited by: DubanFP on 02/06/2008 16:50:38
Originally by: Yden D Why not use a huginn if your not gonna fit a cloak
This, Huginn has a lot more straitfoward power but can't fit a covert ops cloak.
Originally by: Gram Hellfire
You have gang mates for DPS
In a rapier definately, in a huginn not so much. _______________
ReiAyanami> We bring you tidings of AARRRRRRRRR |
Furb Killer
The Peacekeeper Core
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Posted - 2008.06.02 16:55:00 -
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3 med artilleries wont do much damage, gyro stabs not going to change it.
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Gene Louise
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Posted - 2008.06.02 17:02:00 -
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Thanks for the replies so far, very helpful stuff.
So in terms of fitting a cloak, would you drop one of the 650's for a cov ops cloak? Assuming thats the fix since DPS seems to be a secondary concern on the rapier.
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DubanFP
Four Rings Souls of Vengeance
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Posted - 2008.06.02 17:26:00 -
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Edited by: DubanFP on 02/06/2008 17:27:59
Originally by: Gene Louise Thanks for the replies so far, very helpful stuff.
So in terms of fitting a cloak, would you drop one of the 650's for a cov ops cloak? Assuming thats the fix since DPS seems to be a secondary concern on the rapier.
You'll probebly have a hard time fitting both a cloak and a recon probe launcher without Recon Cruiser V. They both use a crapload of CPU. Anyways the Rapier doesn't get a bonus to the recon probe launcher, and can't use one cloaked anyways. _______________
ReiAyanami> We bring you tidings of AARRRRRRRRR |
DeathsEmbrace
The Renegades Asylum
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Posted - 2008.06.02 17:44:00 -
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I would switch the extender and sb for damps, and if you haven't got signal suppresion 4 use damp drones aswell. Means that any target t1 bc and below can't lock you with fitting an sb, much better that way in terms of tank. Whilst the dps is crap reguardless I find that 3 gryo's and dmg drones do help improve it. With dual webs you shouldn't need to worry about speed, you'll go faster than your target. In gang I your fit should suit the gang so should be adaptable to that end. Say 5 webs and mwd with plate/resists reling on an inty/azaru/keres to put point on. For solo this is what I use:-
Inertia Stabilizers II Tracking Enhancer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II
10MN MicroWarpdrive II True Sansha Warp Disruptor X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator x2 Phased Muon Sensor Disruptor I, Targeting Range Dampening x2
650mm Artillery Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M x3 Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Projectile Ambit Extension I x2 (brings fall off to 27km in line with webs and point and very cheap current around 3-4 mil in matar space)
Hobgoblin II x2 Hammerhead SD-600 x3
To live is to die, and to die is to give life. Thus pain is a form of euphoria.
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Menellaix
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.02 18:20:00 -
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You are all terrible. If you put a Muninn fit on a Rapier, you are an idiot.
[Rapier, Not Stupid] Overdrive Injector System II Overdrive Injector System II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II
10MN MicroWarpdrive II Large Shield Extender II Warp Disruptor II Stasis Webifier II Stasis Webifier II Medium Capacitor Booster II
650mm Artillery Cannon II 650mm Artillery Cannon II Covert Ops Cloaking Device II Recon Probe Launcher I
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Trojanman190
Altruism. Malice.
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Posted - 2008.06.02 18:31:00 -
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Get rid of the gyros, the ship has 3 slots for guns... you will NEVER get good dps out of the rapier. That's not what it's for. If you want webs and dps use the hugin or a buddy. Those gyros MUST be overdrives.
If you aren't fitting the cov ops cloak then you are 100% missing the point of this ship or any other recon for that matter.
Recon ships like the rapier and falcon are battle changers, having one versus not having one can change everything. If a nano gang sees your rapier on scan, they will certainly not engage if you have a gang with you. BUt if they don't see you, because you are cloaked, tehy might take the fight and get pwned as a result.
Example. Ishtar, Crow versus Zealot, Rapier, Gila. They took the fight. Fight then becomes Ishtar, Crow, Rapier, Falcon and hilarity ensues. Yes its completely one sided, but my point: Being able to cloak and move freely should never be overlooked. They died because they didn't see our recons.
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Menellaix
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.02 18:34:00 -
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Originally by: Trojanman190 Here, have some of this sense I made.
You're my hero.
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Riho
Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2008.06.02 21:05:00 -
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OP uses my exact fit except i have cloak instead of prober.
been using it since i got the skill for them last year.
and i prefer gyros because u can still kill t1 cruisers whit that ship :D ---------------------------------- Yes... this is my main. Extreme Troll Slayer...
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