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Deva Blackfire
D00M.
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Posted - 2008.06.03 08:57:00 -
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Actually im wondering how iiOs managed to die... that nanomacha setup should be able to GTFO from most situations especially vs 1 ship. Plus he had full cargo of unused injector charges. Killed while afk?
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Bellum Eternus
D00M.
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Posted - 2008.06.03 09:43:00 -
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Only 1.4b? I'm not impressed. Bellum Eternus
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F'nog
Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce
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Posted - 2008.06.03 09:53:00 -
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Originally by: Liang Nuren Edited by: Liang Nuren on 03/06/2008 07:02:30
Originally by: F'nog Maybe I'm a bit out of date, but I think 1.4 Billion is a tad on the low side for that ship.
And the 2nd one! Holy crap, you could probably buy and fit a Dread for less.
You could def buy a mothership with it. Last I heard, the Estamel's Invuln was selling in the price range of a Titan.
I dunno, maybe sisi kills?
-Liang
Ed: Ah, damn. The Nightmare was a suicide gank (or a war target). Sucks for him.
Oh, good. I'd thought I'd lost track of the market.
Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari
F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
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Commoner
Emergent Chaos Bedlam Consortium
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Posted - 2008.06.03 09:55:00 -
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Originally by: NoNameNewbie
Originally by: F'nog
And the 2nd one! Holy crap, you could probably buy and fit a Dread for less.
it has estamels invul .. u can fit a whole cap fleet for that one alone ...
It's something like 30b isk right? i mean 50% to all resists..is insane... The worst pvp'er in EVE :
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Thenoran
Knights of MADD
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Posted - 2008.06.03 09:59:00 -
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Here is a nice kill, 4.8 bil...and a Freighter with fittings!
Freighter with Guns! ------------------------
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Veldya
Guristari Freedom Fighters
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Posted - 2008.06.03 11:53:00 -
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1.4b is not a great deal, I have some gist shield booster modules that are worth more than that alone.
That is a very nasty Machariel setup, able to pull 5450m/s while running all the modules with the booster. That is freaking fast for a battleship. Can pull around 300dps. Large projectiles would be close to useless running at that speed. Missiles are the best weapons for a nano ship.
It is a great gank setup, domi however is probably one of the best ships for taking out nano ships though.
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shwarzkauph
bullets with butterfly wings
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Posted - 2008.06.03 14:44:00 -
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Originally by: Bellum Eternus Only 1.4b? I'm not impressed.
of course your not impressed. It take a whole hell of a lot to impress a master pvper like yourself lol. Whats a nice kill to you MASTER?
It was a good kill. stfu.
Yeah killboard seems off, thought about that when I came across it yesterday. Probably more like 1.8 billion or higher. u lose |
shwarzkauph
bullets with butterfly wings
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Posted - 2008.06.03 14:49:00 -
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Originally by: Deva Blackfire Actually im wondering how iiOs managed to die... that nanomacha setup should be able to GTFO from most situations especially vs 1 ship. Plus he had full cargo of unused injector charges. Killed while afk?
If you actually knew how a KB worked then you would notice that there is a related kill, a vagabond. You think both ships were afk? Yeah, nice way to try to diminish a Kill. Not working. u lose |
Winterblink
Body Count Inc. Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.06.03 14:57:00 -
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IBRF
(in before raven fitting)
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Shaloran Kalior
Rakeriku Otaku Invasion
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Posted - 2008.06.03 15:07:00 -
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Could someone give a rough estimate on the cost of the second one? The Nightmare that is. I dont know how much the officer loot goes for (mostly cos there's no way in hell I can afford it :D ) =============================================== *If you get offended by something I say, you were probably supposed to* *signatory of the "Post with your main" society* *this space for rent* *1 m |
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William Alex
Viscosity space weaponry and trade
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Posted - 2008.06.03 15:08:00 -
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Edited by: William Alex on 03/06/2008 15:10:55 :D Did someone call for a raven setup?
MY RAVEN WAS EQUIPPED WITH THE FOLLOWING:
HIGH 06 x Cruise Missile Launcher I 01 x SMALL TRACTOR BEAM 1 01 x SALVAGER I
MEDIUM 04 x LARGE SHIELD EXTENDERS 01 x ''HYPHNOS'' ECM 01 x MEDIUM SHIELD BOOSTER
LOW 01 x EMERGENCY DAMAGE CONTROL 01 x ARMOR KINETIC HARDENER I 01 x ARMOR THREMIC HARDENER I 02 x WARP CORE STABILIZER I
DRONES 02 x WARRIOR I DRONES 03 x HAMMERHEAD I DRONES
UPGRADES 01 x ROCKET FUEL CACHE PARTINTION I 01 x BAY LOADING ACCELERATOR I
Btw it really does reak of sisi km
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Ulstan
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Posted - 2008.06.03 15:11:00 -
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Edited by: Ulstan on 03/06/2008 15:11:44 If you guys knew anything about faction gear, you'd know those losses were way more expensive than 1.4 billion. Some of the shield mods alone are worth more than that.
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Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2008.06.03 15:12:00 -
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This thread is full of people who have never flown a mach commenting on setups.
SKUNK
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Emulsifiers
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Posted - 2008.06.03 15:22:00 -
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Edited by: Emulsifiers on 03/06/2008 15:22:25 I don't like to nano my Mach. Projectiles and uber heavy tank 4tw.
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William Alex
Viscosity space weaponry and trade
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Posted - 2008.06.03 15:25:00 -
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Originally by: Le Skunk This thread is full of people who have never flown a mach commenting on setups.
SKUNK
This
<- Too rich for my blood.
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Ephemeron
Anti-BoB
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Posted - 2008.06.03 15:54:00 -
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I flew plenty of Mach's in PvP and I agree that setup is really bad. The basic reason: lack of any armor tank
Sure it goes super fast and can make an interesting tackler, but it can't effectively fight anything without slowing down and taking damage. Even something simple like 2 EANM and LAR would go a long way.
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Marshall Knight
Ardent Industrial Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.03 15:54:00 -
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The guy in macharial and his cerb mate killed my ishtar in obe before this happened so i was pretty happy when i saw this :). This guy likes to use his speed to bump people. also i beilieve his top speed is like 12000ms
What the guy who killed him told me was. that he waited for this guy to try to bump his domi from station i think or gate not sure which. and as he closed in to do it he duel webbed him and scramed him and well killed him and the vega. I think this guy nearly got away or something as he nearly made it out of web range before he went pop.
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Lady Karma
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Posted - 2008.06.03 15:58:00 -
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Originally by: MotherMoon what a horrid set up :/
That ship gets 3 bonuses to projectiles :(
Not really...thats a speed Mach, the guns wouldn't be able to hit anything.
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Prez21
coracao ardente Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2008.06.03 15:59:00 -
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Originally by: Ephemeron I flew plenty of Mach's in PvP and I agree that setup is really bad. The basic reason: lack of any armor tank
Sure it goes super fast and can make an interesting tackler, but it can't effectively fight anything without slowing down and taking damage. Even something simple like 2 EANM and LAR would go a long way.
Why would he have to slow down to do any damage or fight? Stupid comments like that prove your an idiot who has no idea.
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Ephemeron
Anti-BoB
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Posted - 2008.06.03 16:07:00 -
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How many Maches did you fly?
I flew about 8 over the period of 2 years. I tried different setups, from the uber-nano fits to uber-tanks. I have more than 400 kills with those Maches. Direct evidence can be seen on BoB killboards, Trimvirate, RAZOR - just to name the major ones.
I know that even a crappy fit ship can kill something if he waits long enough for the right target. But it doesn't make him good. That setup is bad for killing stuff - pure and simple.
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Sosus Red
Grave Diggers Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.03 16:14:00 -
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Originally by: Ephemeron How many Maches did you fly?
I flew about 8 over the period of 2 years. I tried different setups, from the uber-nano fits to uber-tanks. I have more than 400 kills with those Maches. Direct evidence can be seen on BoB killboards, Trimvirate, RAZOR - just to name the major ones.
I know that even a crappy fit ship can kill something if he waits long enough for the right target. But it doesn't make him good. That setup is bad for killing stuff - pure and simple.
so therefore only your set ups are teh l337 or what?
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Ephemeron
Anti-BoB
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Posted - 2008.06.03 16:53:00 -
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I don't claim that my setups are the best.
What I can claim is which setup will have more success relative to the other. A setup of pure nano mach without any tank and missiles as weapons is pretty low on the chart of effective mach setups.
I mean, is it really hard to see when one setup is better than the other for pvp? Many of the people in this thread agree - that mach setup is bad. Doesn't have to be the worst setup, but it could easily be better with 3 armor tank mods.
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Alz Shado
Ever Flow
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Posted - 2008.06.03 16:54:00 -
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If you've only invested 1.4b in your Machariel, you're doing it wrong.
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Frug
Repo Industries R.E.P.O.
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Posted - 2008.06.03 18:05:00 -
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Originally by: burek Wait... what are we laughing at?
That someone has isk and decided to put them to use? That someone had a loss that YOU couldn't cope with? What? The setup isn't that bad. It's just a normal speed mach, although a little out of fashion now.
So, some guy loses something you'd soil your pants over and this makes it universally "lolable". It's tiring seeing people point the finger at someone using faction/officer stuff. Who is the real idiot, you who can't afford that **** and thinks the end is near when sees a killmail like this or the guy that's made enough isk in this game and is willing to use it?
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Hanneshannes
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Posted - 2008.06.03 18:22:00 -
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I didn't see what was so bad about the first 2ones except for the price, but that rocket drake with armour tank was epic ^^
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Djan Anaplian
Cisco Industries
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Posted - 2008.06.03 18:44:00 -
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If you don't nano a mach your a ******* idiot or too rich tbh, end of lol.
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Aadi Grox
Minmatar Mafia
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Posted - 2008.06.03 18:56:00 -
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anyone who thinks that is a **** mach setup doesn't know what they are talking about
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Planks
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Posted - 2008.06.03 18:58:00 -
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WTF, hydra killed something?
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Liang Nuren
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.06.03 19:22:00 -
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Originally by: shwarzkauph If you actually knew how a KB worked then you would notice that there is a related kill, a vagabond. You think both ships were afk? Yeah, nice way to try to diminish a Kill. Not working.
If you knew how the killboard worked, you'd know that the Vaga didn't actually do anything at all to the Nano Mach - not so much as even fire a shot at him or web him.
He just... died.
There are extenuating circumstances (such as if the fight happened in another system), but then the nano mach wouldn't exactly be webbed, now would he?
No, the Domi got himself a fantastic solo kill. GJ to the Domi pilot, and my condolances to the victim. Maybe he'll post how he died or something (but the bump theory sounds really reasonable for maybe a triple web or something).
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D3LTTA
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Posted - 2008.06.03 23:28:00 -
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he tried to bump the domi of the station i believe. and he got webbed by the domi. and don't check the killboard prices everyone knows that they are never right. defently with faction items
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