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Tippia
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.06.04 11:59:00 -
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Edited by: Tippia on 04/06/2008 11:59:48
 Originally by: Esmenet
If its done through more extensive handholding mechanics that allow you to continue with semi-afk isk making in high sec(like som many threads demand) its a bad idea. If its mechanics that gives more power to players to take care of this "problem" by themselves its good. For instance through a revision of the bounty hunting mechanics/killrights mechanics.
Again, agreed.
For me, their comments about "small tweaks" kind of ruled out the larger kinds of changes that would be needed to "improve" (if you can call it that) AFKing.
Instead, it evoked visions of small details, such as including cargo/ship scanner icons on the overview, the same way they recently added ewar icons. In other words, stay alert, and you'll know when it's time to go and hide with that precious cargo… If you're AFK, you will still go boom. Whether or not that particularáexample counts as "too much hand-holding" is a different matter – it just felt like a good example of the kinds of small tweaks they can now do. Also, I have no idea how such a change would fix griefing, per se… but meh… 
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Angela Toren
Toren Shipyards
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Posted - 2008.06.04 12:14:00 -
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Quick, to the forums!! 
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Val Vympel
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.06.04 13:55:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis
In short: if they're talking about more player mechanisms to combat "griefing" then it's all fine and good (eg: tradable killrights)
Agreed.
1.Tradeable killrights is a good idea.
2.Fix the bounty system.
and...
3.Implement a static weapon systems,ie.a camoflauged,time delay,remote proximity bomb/mine that arms upon destruction of the ship and can be remotely disarmed only once(renders that unit forever inoperable)or remotely detonated and or set up to detonate upon proximity.
#3 Would make a ganker "worry" a bit don't you think?
This option should not be cheap for the hauler to buy and or integrate into the ship.
Just a wild idea...
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Shintai
Balad Naran Orbital Shipyards
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Posted - 2008.06.04 14:01:00 -
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Killrights on a recycled alt is...useless.
Abstraction and Transcendence: Nature, Shintai, and Geometry |
Samara Blaze
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Posted - 2008.06.04 14:10:00 -
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I didn't read the entire thread but I guess this means that the muppets can stop beating their chests and telling up how EvE is so harsh and cruel and bleak bah blah blah. 
They made the game sound like it is a substitute for their real lives tbh. Sad.
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sliver 0xD
exiles.
The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2008.06.04 14:10:00 -
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my mind go out to the no more concord make all systems lowsec.
carebears will have to adapt right the way. if carebears learn to not get shot the rate of carebears getting shot will lower.
or
make the security hit of killing a ship in empire HUGE.
that way the guys shooting nubs are instandly flaged as pirate and need to live in lowsec. this will bring more fun to the real pirates who obviously outskill the nub killing players.
maybe even hit the hole corp. 1 member missbehaves then all get kicked out of empire and put in front of the pirates in lowsec.
example if you put jihad on your suitcase and want to board a ship to america. your probably gone be denied. and you didnt even do anything.
i dont see a problem with why this should not be implimented in eve.
anyway kick em all out of empire and bring em to me !
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Oakrayven
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2008.06.04 14:14:00 -
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Edited by: Oakrayven on 04/06/2008 14:18:23
Edited by: Oakrayven on 04/06/2008 14:16:30
Originally by: Oakrayven
Edited by: Oakrayven on 04/06/2008 00:04:36
ok lets look at their options
1) beafing up the health of haulers-mining platforms
2) Allowing concord to podkill anyone who opens fire on a player ship
3) putting a Are you sure. . . then a are you REALY SURE screen up, then canceling the insurance policy on what they are flying and awarding it to the person poded
4) changeing the loot rules in high sec to Concord shoots anyone who loots a wreck that is not theirs. . . and all of the wrecks created by concord are awarded to the victem. (probably not going to happen)
5) new class of super industrial and/or super Hulk
6) adding a 30 day hold on terminations of anyone who has a security hit
7) trial accounts cant PvP
8) Allow concord to pod and capture anyone who kills another ship in high sec.
9) reduce the faction gain by 50% from ratting every time you suicide gank in empire
10) Steal panties
11) ????
12) profit
oh I forgot the best option
13) Drink Beer!
14) anti theft device, if anyone but you toutches the wreck a short range micro doomsday device bang, destroying the wreck, person setting off the bomb if they survive also gets Concorded (note chance that the item will be destroyed when creating the wreck)
15) Kill rights go to the account not the character
16) change it so that anyone can kill you if you have a bounty on you
17) Concord security level for corp or alliance = member with the lowest security rateing in corp or aliance.
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sliver 0xD
exiles.
The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2008.06.04 14:26:00 -
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Originally by: Oakrayven
Edited by: Oakrayven on 04/06/2008 14:18:23
Edited by: Oakrayven on 04/06/2008 14:16:30
Originally by: Oakrayven
Edited by: Oakrayven on 04/06/2008 00:04:36
ok lets look at their options
1) beafing up the health of haulers-mining platforms
2) Allowing concord to podkill anyone who opens fire on a player ship
3) putting a Are you sure. . . then a are you REALY SURE screen up, then canceling the insurance policy on what they are flying and awarding it to the person poded
4) changeing the loot rules in high sec to Concord shoots anyone who loots a wreck that is not theirs. . . and all of the wrecks created by concord are awarded to the victem. (probably not going to happen)
5) new class of super industrial and/or super Hulk
6) adding a 30 day hold on terminations of anyone who has a security hit
7) trial accounts cant PvP
8) Allow concord to pod and capture anyone who kills another ship in high sec.
9) reduce the faction gain by 50% from ratting every time you suicide gank in empire
10) Steal panties
11) ????
12) profit
oh I forgot the best option
13) Drink Beer!
14) anti theft device, if anyone but you toutches the wreck a short range micro doomsday device bang, destroying the wreck, person setting off the bomb if they survive also gets Concorded (note chance that the item will be destroyed when creating the wreck)
15) Kill rights go to the account not the character
16) change it so that anyone can kill you if you have a bounty on you
17) Concord security level for corp or alliance = member with the lowest security rateing in corp or aliance.
canceling insurence looks nice.
in real life if i ram my car into a others dudes car becouse i dont like him i dont think my isnurence company will like me for it :)
so if concord says you been bad. isnurence will not pay.
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Yakia TovilToba
Halliburton Inc.
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Posted - 2008.06.04 14:34:00 -
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This thread is a complete fail.
Everyone just got dumber because of reading it.
Scientists showed this thread to Koko the Gorilla and she forgot all her sign language.
I award the OP the "Fail-Thread-of-the-Month-Creator-Prize".
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Samara Blaze
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Posted - 2008.06.04 14:46:00 -
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Originally by: Yakia TovilToba
This thread is a complete fail.
Everyone just got dumber because of reading it.
Scientists showed this thread to Koko the Gorilla and she forgot all her sign language.
I award the OP the "Fail-Thread-of-the-Month-Creator-Prize".
You're right but the sad thing is it will get 15-20 pages before it dies.
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Faife
Noctiscion
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Posted - 2008.06.04 15:04:00 -
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Originally by: Samara Blaze
You're right but the sad thing is it will get 15-20 pages before it dies.
mostly cause people like me keep bumping it even though we have nothing to contribute
really, i just cant get over the fact that this whole thread started by some random flamer flipping out over a vague dev comment specifically marked with "please don't jump to conclusions". and some people wonder why the devs stop posting.
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Matrixcvd
Rionnag Alba
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Posted - 2008.06.04 15:11:00 -
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I frankly believe they are just playin lipservice to the whiners but, because just getting rid of insurance payment is not really much of an issue, gank a 4 bil ratter loose a hundred to gain 3.1bil? it doesn't really stop the ganking.
One thought i had was, for mission runners, if in a mission, have the mission rats reset aggro if another player uses none logistic mods on the mission runner, i.e weapons. All rat aggro then goes to the people shooting at the mission runner, or at least a random reset. this would make things moar interesting, no?
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Exlegion
New Light
Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.04 15:14:00 -
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Originally by: Matrixcvd
One thought i had was, for mission runners, if in a mission, have the mission rats reset aggro if another player uses none logistic mods on the mission runner, i.e weapons. All rat aggro then goes to the people shooting at the mission runner, or at least a random reset. this would make things moar interesting, no?
Resetting aggro would definitely level the playing field some. I'd love to see this implemented, especially in low sec.
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Sergeant Spot
Black Eclipse Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.04 15:20:00 -
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Originally by: Matrixcvd
I frankly believe they are just playin lipservice to the whiners but, because just getting rid of insurance payment is not really much of an issue, gank a 4 bil ratter loose a hundred to gain 3.1bil? it doesn't really stop the ganking.
One thought i had was, for mission runners, if in a mission, have the mission rats reset aggro if another player uses none logistic mods on the mission runner, i.e weapons. All rat aggro then goes to the people shooting at the mission runner, or at least a random reset. this would make things moar interesting, no?
Good idea on the NPC missions
and on the 4 billion value target, yep, thats how 0.5+ Suicide Ganking is SUSPOSE to work.
The problem is not 0.5+ suicide ganking itself, which is ancient tactics.
The problem is that it has become VASTLY more common, becoming Common, Casual and Cheap.
To be honest, its the "Casual" part that most concerns me. A gank in 0.5+ should never be "Casual". Casual ganking is for 0.4 and below.
Play nice while you butcher each other.
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Spineker
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Posted - 2008.06.04 18:04:00 -
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It's always absolutely hilarious to hear griefers whine about carebears whining. There is something ironic about that since the whine is strong in both sides.
They are both equally on the same level of whine
"I need safe areas! How can they let me get killed so easy I want to make a ton of cash with no risk or work"
"I need easy kills so I can brag about killing that lone miner and feel powerful! I want to kill a ton of players with no risk or work"
All rather droll yet boring really.
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Karlemgne
Tides Of War
Visions of Warfare
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Posted - 2008.06.04 19:15:00 -
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I'm a pirate who has spent his whole eve-life shooting people in the face, and I say:
1. You are making suicide ganking more difficult? Good. Suicide ganking with its insurable ships, tech one fittings, and easily trained disposable alts is unbalanced. Plain and simple.
2. You are going to further balance nano*****s? Good. Blah, blah its part of the game. Sure. In fact, I'm a Minmatar pilot so I use speed tanks often. The problem is that when nanogangs are so powerful, that they account for 100% of the roaming gangs in 0.0, you know there is a serious balance issue.
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N.
Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.06.04 19:50:00 -
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Originally by: sliver 0xD
canceling insurence looks nice.
in real life if i ram my car into a others dudes car becouse i dont like him i dont think my isnurence company will like me for it :)
so if concord says you been bad. isnurence will not pay.
In real life, your insurance company won't pay out even if you didn't take a policy out
In real life, no insurance company would ever insure any item with the risk level of an eve ship.
And of course in real life, the cops don't turn up within 60 seconds.
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Efdi
Tritanium Workers Union
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Posted - 2008.06.04 20:27:00 -
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Originally by: Shintai
Killrights on a recycled alt is...useless.
People don't use recycled alts to gank.
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Mankirks Wife
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Posted - 2008.06.04 20:44:00 -
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Edited by: Mankirks Wife on 04/06/2008 20:45:23
Forum pirates ***** me up.
Some random person gets ganked at a gate camp? Oh well - that's life, learn to deal with it or go back to WoW.
A gate camp gets taken down by a hotdrop, a band of ****ed-off bears who've suddenly grown some balls, or an anti-pirate gang? OMGBLOBLAME or OMGHOTDROPLAME!
An industrial corp gets hit by a major corp theft? Oh well, you should be careful about who you trust.
A well-known and respected pirate corp gets ripped off? OMGMYACCOUNTWASHACKEDCCPGIVEMEMYSTUFFBACKQQQQQQQ!
Your freighter or exhumer got ganked? Learn to be more careful and not haul around billions in an untanked / unescorted freighter, scout ahead, keep an eye on local, all that good stuff.
Possible highsec changes mentioned in passing by a dev without any elaboration? OMGCCPISKILLINGEVE!
(Forum) Pirates cry more than anyone in this game - don't see how that's even questionable.
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Morcam
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Posted - 2008.06.04 22:09:00 -
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Oh noez! They don't want you to suicide gank every T1 hauler you see? THE HORROR
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Efdi
Tritanium Workers Union
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Posted - 2008.06.04 23:47:00 -
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Originally by: Morcam
Oh noez! They don't want you to suicide gank every T1 hauler you see? THE HORROR
Judging by the number of unmolested T1 haulers I regularly see flying around Empire, I think they've managed to accomplish that feat.
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