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Raven Timoshenko
Flying While Intoxicated The Threshold
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Posted - 2008.06.03 13:08:00 -
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Edited by: Raven Timoshenko on 03/06/2008 13:08:34 I brought this up before and could not find it again. It mainly met with approval.
1) Jump Clone Vat POS array as its name suggests is a POS deployable array. 2) It comes in various sizes - maybe from 5 to 25 slot versions. 3) It will be reasonably expensive to purchase - say about 100 Million ISK for the smallest version. 4) It will require a substantial amount of CPU and Power to be online. 5) It will consume an additional fuel to further increase logistical costs: Biogel. 6) It can be used by any Corporate member (maybe alliance as well) 7) In effect it will function like a Capital Clone Vat array but fixed in one place.
War in EVE is like a box of chocolates. You never know which is the really nasty one with the horribly hard nougat center. |
Raven Timoshenko
Flying While Intoxicated The Threshold
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Posted - 2008.06.03 13:09:00 -
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/reserved War in EVE is like a box of chocolates. You never know which is the really nasty one with the horribly hard nougat center. |
Raven Timoshenko
Flying While Intoxicated The Threshold
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Posted - 2008.06.07 16:02:00 -
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/bump War in EVE is like a box of chocolates. You never know which is the really nasty one with the horribly hard nougat center. |
Kaiden Exeider
Astrowork Systems
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Posted - 2008.06.07 23:43:00 -
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/signed "Commercial" Jump Drives and Cynos |
Raven Timoshenko
Flying While Intoxicated The Threshold
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Posted - 2008.06.11 06:56:00 -
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/bump War in EVE is like a box of chocolates. You never know which is the really nasty one with the horribly hard nougat center. |
Haakelen
United Forces
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Posted - 2008.06.11 09:02:00 -
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What happens when it gets offlined/destroyed? Can you update/change your medical clone there? Can you remotely assign a clone there?
With this module, the only remaining things an outpost would have that a POS doesn't would be market stations and offices. Thus it'd have to be balanced very carefully.
It should also require an enhanced level of sovereignty, maybe even sov 4. You shouldn't be able to drop a module like this in a contested area. |
Raven Timoshenko
Flying While Intoxicated The Threshold
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Posted - 2008.06.11 10:28:00 -
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Originally by: Haakelen What happens when it gets offlined/destroyed? Can you update/change your medical clone there? Can you remotely assign a clone there?
If it goes offline you cant jump to the clone, if its destroyed, say goodbye to your clone. Nope you cant update your med clone, all you can do is intall a JC, remote assignment not possible.
Originally by: Haakelen
With this module, the only remaining things an outpost would have that a POS doesn't would be market stations and offices. Thus it'd have to be balanced very carefully. It should also require an enhanced level of sovereignty, maybe even sov 4. You shouldn't be able to drop a module like this in a contested area.
Well having it soved means that smaller alliances and corps loose out big time. If your a large alliance you anyway basically are holding space or have a Outpost deployed.
Secondly since you basically have to spend a billion or two on a cap ship and even then hope your cap pilot is active, this is a good compromise. Its immobile and needs continuous logistical support. I think its reasonably balanced in this case. If someone deploys it in contested space its heavy logistical costs means that the POS in question would not be able to field as many guns or defense systems anyway, making it a soft target. |
Scouteye
Locasta Tactical
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Posted - 2008.06.11 10:35:00 -
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great idea, its really annoying breaking out the rorqual/mothership to do this, so having the module fixed at a POS would be great.
/signed |
Raven Timoshenko
Flying While Intoxicated The Threshold
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Posted - 2008.06.12 05:56:00 -
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/bump
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Raven Timoshenko
Flying While Intoxicated The Threshold
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Posted - 2008.06.14 05:27:00 -
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/bump
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Salpad
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Posted - 2008.06.16 18:10:00 -
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I think it sounds reasonable. -- Salpad |
Twin blade
The Triangle Unlimited Horizons
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Posted - 2008.06.16 18:48:00 -
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I would love to see this put in game would help the small corp i am in ALOT we can not afford to buy motherships or deploy and outpost. Death is great rember where all dying to get there. |
Ooyama
Rastana CMP
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Posted - 2008.06.16 20:34:00 -
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/signed!!
Whould make a large difference to the small corps,, in the way of balancing out things,,
Ooyama.
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Ashina Sito
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2008.06.16 20:35:00 -
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This would be very useful.
One of the major issues I ahve with getting new players to com out on my CAS Combat Day event is jumpclones. I Used ECP-8R in the past but since Evoke lost it it hasn't worked. 15 million per clone in Providance is to coslty for newbies. I have a CAS fleet member trying to use a Roqural pilot to get JCs for people but that has the whole pilot's on line at the right time issue.
If it was useable at a POS in low sec I could run a JC operation for CAS members and get more people coming along for CAS Comabt Day. (high sec would be ideal but not sure about balance)
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Raven Timoshenko
Flying While Intoxicated The Threshold
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Posted - 2008.06.17 02:56:00 -
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/bump
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Raven Timoshenko
Flying While Intoxicated The Threshold
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Posted - 2008.06.18 11:04:00 -
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/bump
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Raven Timoshenko
Flying While Intoxicated The Threshold
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Posted - 2008.06.20 14:11:00 -
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/bump
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Scouteye
Locasta Tactical
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Posted - 2008.06.20 14:17:00 -
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Twin blade, buy a rorqual, 15 times cheaper than your average mothership and can run a clone vat bay.
still a good idea though, would like this on POSes
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Raven Timoshenko
Flying While Intoxicated The Threshold
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Posted - 2008.06.22 03:11:00 -
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/bump
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Raven Timoshenko
Flying While Intoxicated The Threshold
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Posted - 2008.06.23 14:31:00 -
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/bump
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Cordillia
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Posted - 2008.06.23 14:32:00 -
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/Nods and Sign. POS without that ability is like a TV without power.
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Zirconium Blade
Ass Pounding Space Monkeys
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Posted - 2008.06.23 14:42:00 -
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Isn't this the sort of thing that makes an Outpost so good to have?
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Raven Timoshenko
Flying While Intoxicated The Threshold
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Posted - 2008.06.23 14:46:00 -
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Originally by: Zirconium Blade Isn't this the sort of thing that makes an Outpost so good to have?
Umm.... so basically spend BILLIONS of ISK just to have an a Jump clone bay? The point here is to find a balance between the Capital ship bays which requires not only a capital ship but the pilot to be online and the outposts which not everyone can afford to deploy in the first place.
The high logistical and consumption costs means that a POS with a Clone bay will not have sufficient power to be used say in even a simple reactor or a moon harvester.
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Raven Timoshenko
Flying While Intoxicated The Threshold
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Posted - 2008.06.25 08:54:00 -
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/bump
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Raven Timoshenko
Flying While Intoxicated The Threshold
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Posted - 2008.06.26 14:56:00 -
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/bump
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Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate The ENTITY.
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Posted - 2008.06.26 16:52:00 -
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/signed
Good idea. Would help lower some of the barriers to PVP for smaller groups, and could help get more peeps in to no sec.
The Real Space Initiative - V5 (Forum Link)
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Raven Timoshenko
Flying While Intoxicated The Threshold
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Posted - 2008.06.29 11:41:00 -
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/bump
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Gaelenus
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2008.06.29 14:28:00 -
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definatly agree with this one, though you might want to also post this in the CMS forum no?
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Raven Timoshenko
Flying While Intoxicated The Threshold
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Posted - 2008.06.29 14:39:00 -
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Originally by: Gaelenus definatly agree with this one, though you might want to also post this in the CMS forum no?
I thought you could only post there once you have like 5% signatures or something |
Gaelenus
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2008.06.29 16:41:00 -
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well i'm not a 100% sure on that but i'm pretty sure that with a lot of the threas in there thats not the case... |
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