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Waterfowl Democracy
The Ministry of Indigenous Affairs GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.04 02:01:00 -
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In the reasonably distant past ECM modules were fitted to all kinds of ships and were quite effective. Then ECM modules themselves were nerfed so they became impractical on non-ECM bonused ships.
Then much later most ECM bonused ships were boosted to make them more useful using the lower starting strength ECM.
In a recent patch RSDs were changed in two ways, they were reduced to 2/3 of their previous effectiveness and they were given scripts so they affect only one of two aspects to full strength or both to half strength. I'm not arguing that this was a bad change as it wasn't. RSDs were being fitted to all sorts of ships (Rapiers, Ravens, Domis etc.) making them similar to ECMs of yore.
However now the RSD bonused ships are a bit lacking just like the ECM boats used to be. They cannot keep a single target from doing damage like a falcon can or even like a pilgrim can to a turret based ship.
I ask that the bonuses to RSD ships be looked at to make them more useful in small gangs. A strength boost returning them to pre-nerf strength on those ships would not be overpowered given the scripting changes.
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Mithrantir Ob'lontra
Ixion Defence Systems Electus Matari
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Posted - 2008.06.04 03:12:00 -
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I really hope that will be put on the table when talking with CCP staff. ------- Nobody can be exactly like me. Even I have trouble doing it. |
Zeknichov
Dark Prophecy Inc. Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.06.04 03:52:00 -
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Edited by: Zeknichov on 04/06/2008 03:52:28 /signed.
Personally I would like to see ranges of RSDs increased so RSD specialized ships can hit at 250KM fairly easily. This would make RDS ships a counter to sniping BS as well as a counter to ECM ships. As it is right now there is no reason to use an RSD over an ECM in any scenario. People like to say that RSDs complement ECM, well this is true but two ECM is more effective than ECM+RSD.
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LaVista Vista
Conservative Shenanigans Party
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Posted - 2008.06.04 04:05:00 -
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I remember flying my arazu just a few weeks ago. It's a nice toy to just mess with people while they are ratting. But both you and your target knows that the arazu can't much more than just toy with them.
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Rooker
Lysian Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.06.04 05:43:00 -
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Yeah, I don't know why it never occurs to them to exempt ewar-specialized ships when they nerf ewar due to too many people fitting the ewar to non-specialized ships.
In other words, /signed
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MirrorGod
Heretic Army Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2008.06.04 05:46:00 -
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Poasting foar boost
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Zorda
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Posted - 2008.06.04 05:59:00 -
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yes
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Goumindong
Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.04 05:59:00 -
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Edited by: Goumindong on 04/06/2008 06:01:49 We already have two "issue" threads on this
Anyway, for more info on what caused the problem, see Here
ED: Short answer = Boost to previous effectiveness just might overpower them.[87% damps with an Eos and rigs from previous 44% base strength(assuming 22% scripted to 44)]
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Waterfowl Democracy
The Ministry of Indigenous Affairs GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.04 06:39:00 -
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Originally by: Goumindong Edited by: Goumindong on 04/06/2008 06:01:49 We already have two "issue" threads on this
Anyway, for more info on what caused the problem, see Here
ED: Short answer = Boost to previous effectiveness just might overpower them.[87% damps with an Eos and rigs from previous 44% base strength(assuming 22% scripted to 44)]
[ISSUE] Goumindong is dumb
I don't give a crap about your stupid math thread. This is about the relation between what happened to ECM and what is happening to RSDs so hopefully RSDs won't wait years for a fix on bonused ships.
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Allaria Kriss
Elipse Inc.
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Posted - 2008.06.04 07:16:00 -
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Ooh, look, yet another RSD thread.
Can't we keep to one?
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Waterfowl Democracy
The Ministry of Indigenous Affairs GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.04 07:36:00 -
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Originally by: Allaria Kriss Ooh, look, yet another RSD thread.
Can't we keep to one?
Nope. The current Assembly Hall structure is worthless anyway. So why not make it more so?
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Sariyah
HUN Corp. HUN Reloaded
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Posted - 2008.06.04 09:35:00 -
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Viragarus
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Posted - 2008.06.04 09:35:00 -
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rsd, would be nice
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Toramii
Le Moulin Rouge
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Posted - 2008.06.04 12:15:00 -
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Yay
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Kasarandon
Suzaku Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.06.04 12:23:00 -
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Supported.
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Nariana Verex
Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.06.04 14:27:00 -
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I think I voted for one of the other RSD threads. I might as well vote here too. Signed. :)
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winthrowe
Node Alpha Defense Research
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Posted - 2008.06.04 18:39:00 -
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Lachrymology
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Posted - 2008.06.05 15:09:00 -
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Farrqua
Turbo Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.06.05 15:39:00 -
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It just makes sense.
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Draygo Korvan
Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.05 15:51:00 -
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Amarr Holymight
Bat Country Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2008.06.06 06:45:00 -
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Waterfowl I like the cut of your jib. /signed my good sir.
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Amarr Holymight
Bat Country Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2008.06.06 06:46:00 -
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there ...
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Lucias Trask
Shadows of the Dead R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.06.06 06:50:00 -
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Edited by: Lucias Trask on 06/06/2008 06:50:56 I fully support/endorse this Goon product.
Second best idea by far from the goons on this forum.
The other 20000 were terrible ideas but this one delivers.
Let me damp from 250km right next to the falcon and Arazus will be worth a damn again. [PANIC] |
Erotic Irony
0bsession
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Posted - 2008.06.06 06:54:00 -
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Originally by: Goumindong Edited by: Goumindong on 04/06/2008 06:01:49 We already have two "issue" threads on this
Anyway, for more info on what caused the problem, see Here
ED: Short answer = Boost to previous effectiveness just might overpower them.[87% damps with an Eos and rigs from previous 44% base strength(assuming 22% scripted to 44)]
game set match,
anyone approving this is an illiterate fool--waterfowl can suck my pilgrim ___ Eve Players are not very smart. Support Killmail Overhaul
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Savesti Kyrsst
White-Noise
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Posted - 2008.06.06 19:17:00 -
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These ships are transparently underpowered at present, and I speak as someone who has no intention of flying them in any case. _
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Zorok
LEGI0N F.E.A.R Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.06 19:27:00 -
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I concur with this...When they made the nerf to all the EWAR modules, it definitely took the bite out of all the recon ships with the exception of the Caldari recons (ECM modules don't use scripts). Recon ships should get a much-needed boost to their ECM capabilities to compensate for the script nerf. I sign this wholeheartedly... CCP please fix this issue ASAP!!
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Destrukter
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Posted - 2008.06.06 20:02:00 -
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the arazu is only good for cyno right now
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Dani Leone
A Dark Cloud Unaffiliated
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Posted - 2008.06.06 20:04:00 -
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/signed
Specialised RSD ships should be nasty and horrible to face off against not just a bit of an annoyance. -----------------------------
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Amarr Holymight
Bat Country Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2008.06.06 20:44:00 -
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Here's my suggestion for the Arazu
Gallente Cruiser Skill Bonus: 5% bonus to Medium Hybrid Turret damage and 20% bonus to warp disruptor rangeper level
Recon Ships Skill Bonus: 10% bonus to Remote Sensor Dampener effectiveness and -96% to -100% reduction in Cloaking Device CPU use per level
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XLR Eight
Viziam
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Posted - 2008.06.06 23:32:00 -
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supported
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