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Chomin H'ak
The Trivenerate
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Posted - 2008.06.08 16:08:00 -
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I have been playing for a little over a year in New Eden, always a passive player who makes a couple million a day to fund my exploration of this fine game.
I haven't made a billion and I'm not motivated to do so, only have fun. My money practically makes itself now with little interaction necessary on my own part. I'm not rich and don't care to be as such usually is an invitation to disaster, especially since I ***** myself to the forums.
I have watched the forums since before I started playing, with particular interest in the MD forums. After colorful appropriation of several ideas (thank you one and all for all of the help I've been able to gleam, btw) I made myself very content for a time, but I got bored and wanted more. So.... (the real story:)
I convinced my nephew to play (not hard, considering the pretties... man this game is b-e-a-utiful). So I instructed him in how to facilitate his game and to make the most profit available. (For those that know of my little IPO, I'm not talking some meager 10%, my own profits now reach far into the 1000%'s) I instructed him to not specialize ('fraid that's the biggest hint you'll be given) and to use all of the resources available at his disposal.
tl;dr version:
After having now played for a whole 4 months, and with an initial donation of a Bantam and 1 M isk to buy books, my nephew's recent NAV came to (are you ready for this) 1.8 Billion, mostly through the market (though he started using contracts- legit, even) and as an Industrial character with only 3 trade skills trained thus far (and none over level 3). Monday he expects to bring that total to 11B. I just wanted to:
1) Let the newbs know that making isk is easy if you have a plan and are diligent enough
2) Formally give my nephew a page in the annuls of Eve's history and let him know publically how proud of him I am
3) Make the point of how awesome I am... cause I taught him everything he knows. ^^ |
Void Monarch
Aorte Cerebrum
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Posted - 2008.06.08 18:08:00 -
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Insane amounts of free time ftw in any career.
I assume your nephew have had it  Am I wrong?
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Sir Ibex
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Posted - 2008.06.08 18:31:00 -
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Well, instead of gloating, how about you tell people how you trade and how you make money? Give some tips maybe? Look, no one is asking you to tell people EXACTLY what you sell and where.... Just tell us how you do it. ;)
It is true that there is already enough info available on this, but that's other people's advice, methods, etc. What are yours?
Otherwise what's the point of this post? To tell newbs it's possible to make 1.8b in four months? Well.. It's possible to become a CEO of a major company at 25, but very few people accomplish this at this age, if ever. Many things are possible in this life, but they become more possible when people have an idea of how to go about achieving them.
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Chomin H'ak
The Trivenerate
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Posted - 2008.06.08 20:12:00 -
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 Originally by: Void Monarch
Insane amounts of free time ftw in any career.
I assume your nephew have had it Am I wrong?
Indeed you are. He currently is employed full-time with a girl-friend to boot. So your assumption is wrong. |
Chomin H'ak
The Trivenerate
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Posted - 2008.06.08 20:15:00 -
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Originally by: Sir Ibex
Well, instead of gloating, how about you tell people how you trade and how you make money? Give some tips maybe? Look, no one is asking you to tell people EXACTLY what you sell and where.... Just tell us how you do it. ;)
It is true that there is already enough info available on this, but that's other people's advice, methods, etc. What are yours?
Otherwise what's the point of this post? To tell newbs it's possible to make 1.8b in four months? Well.. It's possible to become a CEO of a major company at 25, but very few people accomplish this at this age, if ever. Many things are possible in this life, but they become more possible when people have an idea of how to go about achieving them.
Study the forums, specifically Ricdic's experiment. He was holed up in the same station. Imagine if he had freedom of movement how much more he could have made. I won't go into any details because there are far too many hints in here as it is. Looking for the answer in one man is as foolhardy as trusting all of your assets in one specialized area. So look for yourself and experiment with what you find. Experience can be a great tutor.
I shared my info to my nephew because he is my nephew. |
Petyr Baelich
Taggart Transdimensional
Virtue of Selfishness
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Posted - 2008.06.08 20:43:00 -
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Take a look at the reaction your thread is getting, and the reaction the other "newbie trader doing well" thread is getting. Your purpose may have been simply to let people know it was possible and general pride in your nephew, but you come across as a rather dimwitted jerk. You know, the kind of dad who sits there drinking a natural ice and boasting about his son's athletic ability while is own gut requires that his easy chair be custom-built.
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Riethe
Invictus Sovereignty
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Posted - 2008.06.08 21:46:00 -
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Check it out, I have just about 260 billion ISK, and I don't accidentally double post on the forums and make up fake stories about fake imaginary friends.
What's up now.
Yeah boy
EVE-Scam.com |
Petyr Baelich
Taggart Transdimensional
Virtue of Selfishness
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Posted - 2008.06.08 21:58:00 -
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Originally by: Riethe
Check it out, I have just about 260 billion ISK, and I don't accidentally double post on the forums and make up fake stories about fake imaginary friends.
What's up now.
Yeah boy
LOL
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Frenden Dax
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Posted - 2008.06.09 01:43:00 -
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Originally by: Riethe
Check it out, I have just about 260 billion ISK, and I don't accidentally double post on the forums and make up fake stories about fake imaginary friends.
What's up now.
Yeah boy
That's why I read this forum, right there.
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Pacific Theme
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Posted - 2008.06.09 02:31:00 -
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Originally by: Chomin H'ak
This post was made to congratulate my kin and let people know it can indeed be done, nothing more.
Then pick up the phone. This is gloating, nothing more.
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2008.06.09 02:47:00 -
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Sad.
Instead of the mature option of "just don't post in this ego thread" we've got a litany of people demonstrating how little they get it. Posting is for EGO and there is nothing wrong with pride in a fellow or kin.
Chomin has only went on like a proud dad, yes. He didn't get on a high horse and preach at any of you. He just pointed out that it could be done, he helped it so, and came to the eve "pub" and went on about it.
Nothing more, nothing less, move along now.
To Shar -verb:
1 - To say what you mean.
2 - To say what it means.
3 - To say something mean. |
Vhaluus
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Posted - 2008.06.09 03:00:00 -
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Originally by: Petyr Baelich
Take a look at the reaction your thread is getting, and the reaction the other "newbie trader doing well" thread is getting. Your purpose may have been simply to let people know it was possible and general pride in your nephew, but you come across as a rather dimwitted jerk. You know, the kind of dad who sits there drinking a natural ice and boasting about his son's athletic ability while is own gut requires that his easy chair be custom-built.
very true. You need to think about a number of things here:
1)e-peen boasting always tends to make you look like an idiot
2)you're not even boasting about your own e-peen, you're boasting about your nephews.
I have really never seen such an obvious example of someone trying to make up for certain inadequacy.
you sir, fail.
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Ashina Sito
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2008.06.09 03:09:00 -
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Originally by: Vhaluus
very true. You need to think about a number of things here:
1)e-peen boasting always tends to make you look like an idiot
2)you're not even boasting about your own e-peen, you're boasting about your nephews.
I have really never seen such an obvious example of someone trying to make up for certain inadequacy.
you sir, fail.
Pish!
He is proud of what his nephew did. Where else would he be able to post about it?
Grats on the marketeering. Many people don't realise the market is the best time for ISK earnings in the game. 4 months to 11 billion is damn good for a noob. 
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Confuzer
Polaris Project
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.09 05:41:00 -
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Nice :)
But, the 11bil he made is howfar in the game? Cus he made 1.8 bil after 4 months, and it's a little hard to imagine that the next week he made 11bil of it ;)
Especially because people forget the trade slots you can max occupy and the peak of what you can sell on one items/station/etc so you need to find new markets. I am working on all kinds of trade fronts to try to maintain my grow curve... and it sometimes is hard.
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Slade Trillgon
Siorai Iontach
Brotherhood of the Spider
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Posted - 2008.06.09 10:13:00 -
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Originally by: Confuzer
try to maintain my grow curve... and it sometimes is hard.
All right I apologize for the tasteless humor, it is Monday morning at 6am and when I read that line it made me laugh. 
To the OP congratulations on showing your nephew the ropes and having him be successful. Most here would be prideful if they knew they had a prodigy that was this successful and nothing wrong with a little boasting.
Slade
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flakeys
The Love Factory
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Posted - 2008.06.09 10:35:00 -
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Originally by: Slade Trillgon
Originally by: Confuzer
try to maintain my grow curve... and it sometimes is hard.
All right I apologize for the tasteless humor, it is Monday morning at 6am and when I read that line it made me laugh.
Slade
Just had to say ... LOL ...
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Confuzer
Polaris Project
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.09 11:02:00 -
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Euhm, maybe I should've written that down differently 
But you get the point, it's hard.
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Destiny is not a matter of chance. It is a matter of choice. It's not a thing to be waited for - it is a thing to be achieved. |
Chomin H'ak
The Trivenerate
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Posted - 2008.06.09 15:48:00 -
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Edited by: Chomin H''ak on 09/06/2008 15:52:45
Originally by: Confuzer
Nice :)
But, the 11bil he made is howfar in the game? Cus he made 1.8 bil after 4 months, and it's a little hard to imagine that the next week he made 11bil of it ;)
Especially because people forget the trade slots you can max occupy and the peak of what you can sell on one items/station/etc so you need to find new markets. I am working on all kinds of trade fronts to try to maintain my grow curve... and it sometimes is hard.
What's funny is he isn't familliar with the market to stick to one specific item, he keeps upgrading his trades considering he's only got like 13 slots or something available, iirc.
I think his desire to not stick to one commodity is the strength in this venture.
Oh, and for all of you people hating, ** you. Your tears are sweet.
Edit: spelling and note: He said he was estimating a NAV of 11B this morning (no update, yet), I personally think this may have been hopeful speculation, but we'll see. |
Chomin H'ak
The Trivenerate
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Posted - 2008.06.09 15:50:00 -
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Originally by: Confuzer
But you get the point, it's hard.
Shoulda quit while you were ahead. |
Void Monarch
Aorte Cerebrum
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Posted - 2008.06.09 16:56:00 -
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No hate, rly.
Just trying to figure how.. How somebody could get couple of billions while a) Sitting in 1 station, immobilized; 2)Not having distant trading skills; 3) Having less than 20 slots; 4) Playing much less than dedicated hardcore trader.
Sorry, but I can't believe it. Ofc I'm not comparing with myself, coz i'm just learning to trade. I'm comparing with MD giants, those "noob trader" experiments, and just can't believe the OP.
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Chomin H'ak
The Trivenerate
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Posted - 2008.06.09 20:44:00 -
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Originally by: Void Monarch
No hate, rly.
Just trying to figure how.. How somebody could get couple of billions while a) Sitting in 1 station, immobilized; 2)Not having distant trading skills; 3) Having less than 20 slots; 4) Playing much less than dedicated hardcore trader.
Sorry, but I can't believe it. Ofc I'm not comparing with myself, coz i'm just learning to trade. I'm comparing with MD giants, those "noob trader" experiments, and just can't believe the OP.
I never stated that he was station-bound. But other than that, you have the gist of it.
Whether you believe it or not is your decision. I gain nothing from your conviction or lack there-of. |
Void Monarch
Aorte Cerebrum
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Posted - 2008.06.09 23:36:00 -
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Originally by: Chomin H'ak
I never stated that he was station-bound. But other than that, you have the gist of it.
Originally by: Chomin H'ak
He was holed up in the same station. Imagine if he had freedom of movement how much more he could have made.
I thought you did. Or maybe it's my bad English?
Originally by: Chomin H'ak
Whether you believe it or not is your decision. I gain nothing from your conviction or lack there-of.
Totally agreed.
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Chomin H'ak
The Trivenerate
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Posted - 2008.06.10 20:16:00 -
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Originally by: Void Monarch
I thought you did. Or maybe it's my bad English?
Your English is fine. I was referring to Ricdic's experiment. |
Rhakmananoff
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Posted - 2008.06.10 22:05:00 -
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Edited by: Rhakmananoff on 10/06/2008 22:06:40
Hey guys my market epeen is bigger than yours.
edit: my nephew's epeen is bigger than yours. Sorry. 
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Ava Santiago
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Posted - 2008.06.11 01:03:00 -
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While people bound to stations playing the 1 isk game can generate a profit.
People serving a market segment tend to do MUCH MUCH better.
Congrats to your nephew.
Concord doesn't provide consequences. Concord provides insurance payouts. |
Petyr Baelich
Taggart Transdimensional
Virtue of Selfishness
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Posted - 2008.06.11 03:50:00 -
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Originally by: Ava Santiago
While people bound to stations playing the 1 isk game can generate a profit.
People serving a market segment tend to do MUCH MUCH better.
Congrats to your nephew.
People in stations "playing the .01/1 isk game" are serving a market segment, else they would not make any profits whatsoever. You're happy doing your thing, they're happy doing theirs. Profits are only limited by ones own intelligence and the practical application of a person's imagination. |
Confuzer
Polaris Project
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.11 04:04:00 -
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Quote:
Shoulda quit while you were ahead.
hehehehe :D
But yes everyone needs to diversivy and choose and change the right items. I have a very wide bandwidth of items I trade, but I never really got the isk/sale/time ratio upped in a huge way. So my curve kinda flattened. |
Chomin H'ak
The Trivenerate
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Posted - 2008.06.11 15:42:00 -
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Originally by: Confuzer
Quote:
Shoulda quit while you were ahead.
hehehehe :D
But yes everyone needs to diversivy and choose and change the right items. I have a very wide bandwidth of items I trade, but I never really got the isk/sale/time ratio upped in a huge way. So my curve kinda flattened.
My personal feeling is that traders get complacent about their orders because they make good money off of them. Though they are consistent in their profits, the problem with this is that even though they may make a good profit, they stunt their growth by sticking with the small things when a larger potential is just over the horizon. They simply need to do the math and their homework... ugh.
I'm personally guilty of this, but I'm working on other things in-game that have very little to do with trading. (I suspect this is the reason for a percentage of the traders out there run into a 'profit wall' of sorts.)
But I'm no expert, just somewhat insightful. |
EBANK Ricdic
Eve-Tech Savings n Loans
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Posted - 2008.06.11 16:16:00 -
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For someone not afraid to proclaim his personal wealth in public, why would you only give your nephew 1 million isk and a bantum? To me this sounds really stingy
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YouGotRipped
Ewigkeit
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Posted - 2008.06.11 16:51:00 -
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Edited by: YouGotRipped on 11/06/2008 16:53:23
Originally by: EBANK Ricdic
For someone not afraid to proclaim his personal wealth in public, why would you only give your nephew 1 million isk and a bantum? To me this sounds really stingy
In case you are wondering where the "bantum" name comes from:
Quote:
A bantam is any small or miniature fowl; the term bantam refers most commonly to small breeds of chickens. Many standard chicken breeds have a bantam counterpart, sometimes referred to as a miniature.
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