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Darius JOHNSON
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Posted - 2008.06.09 00:47:00 - [1]

This may or may not be somewhat of a pet issue. I'm not certain if smaller corporations have the same problem but I imagine any corporation over a certain size will run into this situation and I feel it's something that could be addressed.

As it stands, as CEO of Goonfleet my evemail is unusable. This is because every single corporate going on generates an individual evemail. Every time a player joins, an evemail. Every time a player leaves, an evemail. Every time a POS runs low on fuel, an evemail. Every time something is shot, an evemail. Essentially this puts me and I'm sure at least a few others in a position where our evemail is completely unusable.

It is my assumption that this was not the intended purpose of the evemail system, but rather that the evemail system was intended for communicating. To allow for other players to get in touch with me regarding issues when I'm offline or to initiate diplomatic contact. I would propose that a separate system be used for logging corporate events, be it a log similar to the new kill log, or a separate mail account specific to the corp's needs. There have been a number of times in my case where attempts at communication have gone ignored, including communications from CCP, simply because I cannot at times even open my evemail. It would take a significant amount of time to clean this up, and even should I do so it will be self defeating because I will receive hundreds of evemails a day.

Essentially I'd like to see these messages going somewhere else so that my evemail can be used for... evemailing. I'm not sure how much support this topic will receive as I'm not sure how widespread a problem it is but in my case it's untenable. Thanks!
Vaal Erit
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Posted - 2008.06.09 01:09:00 - [2]

Edited by: Vaal Erit on 09/06/2008 01:10:07
Sounds good to me. You can help your situation in the mean time, make an alt with few roles so you can convo/mail and have a nice tidy inbox.

I hear stories of CEOs getting flooded with tons of message like you say and a way to block out the ones you don't want seems like a fine idea to me.

*edit* forgot support lols

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Amarr Holymight
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Posted - 2008.06.09 03:21:00 - [3]

Signed

Herschel Yamamoto
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Posted - 2008.06.09 03:59:00 - [4]

Agreed - corporation logging should happen in the Corporation window, not via EveMail. Of course, this would require the Corporation window to get a total overhaul, but it needs one anyways.
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MirrorGod
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Posted - 2008.06.09 04:08:00 - [5]

Agreed, a corporate activity log or something of the sort would win. I imagine it'd be a simple conversion similar to how killmails used to come in raw-text to the inbox rather than the character sheet combat log.

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Draygo Korvan
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Posted - 2008.06.09 05:51:00 - [6]


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Gabriel Darkefyre
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Posted - 2008.06.09 08:57:00 - [7]

Although I'm not a CEO myself I can see the benefits to this suggestion. Anything that makes Corporation Management easier is a good thing in my book.
EdFromHumanResources
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Posted - 2008.06.09 08:58:00 - [8]

God I don't even have that many roles and I get several hundred at th every least a day. Signed.
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Hugh Ruka
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Posted - 2008.06.09 09:23:00 - [9]

never been a CEO, but I was in an alliance long enough to get annoyed by the constant POS mail spam.

I think CCP should rework the Corporation interface to be the central management interface with all the logging (and mail spam) happening there.

IMO a corp mechanic overhaul is long due. Currently the divisions have almost no meaning except restricting cash flow a bit. At least an internal corporation contract system is needed.
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Grarr Dexx
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Posted - 2008.06.09 09:26:00 - [10]

Laughing Use a corporate commanding alt, Evemail is completely broken when it comes to being a CEO.

I must agree with this issue though.

Theramin Dogon
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Posted - 2008.06.09 11:44:00 - [11]

They fixed killmails, this can't be so much harder.
Voculus
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Posted - 2008.06.09 11:45:00 - [12]


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Darius JOHNSON
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Posted - 2008.06.13 18:58:00 - [13]

Needs more attention. If you disagree say why please.
Narciss Sevar
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Posted - 2008.06.13 19:15:00 - [14]

Pezzle
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Posted - 2008.06.13 19:20:00 - [15]

Supported. Fuel mails could be put on a character sheet tab like killmails. Much much more can be done to allow players to customize the mails they get. This is a step in the right direction.
Dramaticus
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Posted - 2008.06.13 19:21:00 - [16]

Moctobot
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Posted - 2008.06.13 19:31:00 - [17]

i only get starbase mails and it is horrible - supportin dis
Iraf Thaiberd
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Posted - 2008.06.13 19:32:00 - [18]

Even something as simple as another mail tab for "automated mails" for directors/ceos would go a LONG way towards making evemail usable. I know I get 200+ a day. It's not something you can deal with, only ignore.
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Posted - 2008.06.13 19:39:00 - [19]

Agreed completely, this has been a long time in coming.
Vio Geraci
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Posted - 2008.06.13 19:48:00 - [20]

As much as I love logging in to thousands of evemails in my inbox, I support this issue.
Confirmed
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Posted - 2008.06.13 19:59:00 - [21]

So how long before goons get accused of breaking the game the way they play with this issue?
Fallorn
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Posted - 2008.06.13 20:00:00 - [22]

Yes my liege.
Virtuoso DeToure
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Posted - 2008.06.13 20:01:00 - [23]

I have two characters that have unusable mailboxes because of this. They filled up to the point where they will not open. 4 petitions later and they still do not work.
Alexi Kalashnikov
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Posted - 2008.06.13 20:01:00 - [24]

100% agree. As being in similiar alt-corp situations, I know the pain.
Flodarian
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Posted - 2008.06.13 20:01:00 - [25]

Band wagoning this.
Momo chan
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Posted - 2008.06.13 20:02:00 - [26]

Lets get this party rolling.
Sorenson Roynex
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Posted - 2008.06.13 20:02:00 - [27]

It would make my life simpler. CCP, please heed the OP.
Courthouse
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Posted - 2008.06.13 20:03:00 - [28]

absolutely.
MinerChick
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Posted - 2008.06.13 20:03:00 - [29]

Originally by: Sorenson Roynex
It would make my life simpler. CCP, please heed the OP.

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Popperr
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Posted - 2008.06.13 20:03:00 - [30]

nothing less than the most important issue in eve today
Taedron
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Posted - 2008.06.13 20:04:00 - [31]

Edited by: Taedron on 13/06/2008 20:03:53
I can't believe CCP designed it this way in the first place.

Oh wai
Pnuka
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Posted - 2008.06.13 20:04:00 - [32]

Completely agree, if anyone remembers a couple of patches back where everyone received these it literally drove me insane.
Lila Penney
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Posted - 2008.06.13 20:04:00 - [33]

Separating this out to another window is a good idea. When you have so much evemail you can't even open it, you know something is wrong.
Momochanchan
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Posted - 2008.06.13 20:04:00 - [34]

Remember 3 votes per account.
Orebuster
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Posted - 2008.06.13 20:04:00 - [35]

Originally by: Darius JOHNSON

Essentially I'd like to see these messages going somewhere else so that my evemail can be used for... evemailing. I'm not sure how much support this topic will receive as I'm not sure how widespread a problem it is but in my case it's untenable. Thanks!


I think it is a great idea, symbolic of the great leadership provided by Darius JOHNSON.
Moofles
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Posted - 2008.06.13 20:05:00 - [36]

facialimpediment
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Posted - 2008.06.13 20:05:00 - [37]

If anyone remembers that eve-mail screw up as soon as Revelations was deployed, everyone's eve-mail became unusable as it became flooded with tower messages, corp messages, and so on so forth. Basically, everyone suddenly got director-level evemail access. The current status of director eve-mail being completely broken should be admitted by everyone in EVE in a big alliance, not just goonswarm.

Consequently, it needs to be fixed so directors can actually find their eve-mails and send said eve-mails.
Crovus Horlan
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Posted - 2008.06.13 20:05:00 - [38]

Lady Starfire
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Posted - 2008.06.13 20:05:00 - [39]

Edited by: Lady Starfire on 13/06/2008 20:05:00
Make sure you click the check box also.
Avocad
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Posted - 2008.06.13 20:05:00 - [40]

support
Doanshoot
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Posted - 2008.06.13 20:06:00 - [41]

Originally by: Orebuster

I think it is a great idea, symbolic of the great leadership provided by Darius JOHNSON.


I don't want to derail this thread talking about goonies, but regardless of the source, the idea is sound. CCP, get to it please.
Zeitgueist
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Posted - 2008.06.13 20:06:00 - [42]

Thread rick-rolled.
SaleanDS
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Posted - 2008.06.13 20:06:00 - [43]

Viktor Konstantine
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Posted - 2008.06.13 20:06:00 - [44]

This is a good idea.
Vituperative Kisses
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Posted - 2008.06.13 20:13:00 - [45]

Please
Holden Bundfield
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Posted - 2008.06.13 20:14:00 - [46]

definitely!
Kirney Slane
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Posted - 2008.06.13 20:14:00 - [47]

Supporting this.
Gara Petothel
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Posted - 2008.06.13 20:15:00 - [48]

Supporting this.
Angry Spacejerk
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Posted - 2008.06.13 20:15:00 - [49]

supported
Swedish Bob
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Posted - 2008.06.13 20:15:00 - [50]

Agreed, eve mail is used for too many things that are not mail. Also an ability to export tagged eve-mail through the API would be nice as well.
Sealclubber Jones
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Posted - 2008.06.13 20:15:00 - [51]

Yes
NotXanif
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Posted - 2008.06.13 20:16:00 - [52]

signed
VCBee 360
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Posted - 2008.06.13 20:16:00 - [53]

Supported.
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Posted - 2008.06.13 20:17:00 - [54]

Signed
Michael Herapath
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Posted - 2008.06.13 20:18:00 - [55]

Agreed completely.
Keldjos Falzir
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Posted - 2008.06.13 20:18:00 - [56]

I support this.
Lexa Falzir
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Posted - 2008.06.13 20:19:00 - [57]

I too support this.
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Posted - 2008.06.13 20:19:00 - [58]

Edited by: Misanthropologist on 13/06/2008 20:19:55
I am also in support of this issue
Heneas Dundage
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Posted - 2008.06.13 20:20:00 - [59]

Excellent idea to use the same mechanism as killmails. Hopefully since CCP just worked that out this would be an easy thing to fix.
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Posted - 2008.06.13 20:21:00 - [60]

god

yes
AlphaMeridian
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Posted - 2008.06.13 20:21:00 - [61]

It's bad enough when someone sends an alliance mail...
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Posted - 2008.06.13 20:22:00 - [62]

++
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Posted - 2008.06.13 20:22:00 - [63]

EHZorg
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Posted - 2008.06.13 20:23:00 - [64]

Thank god I'm not a director
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Posted - 2008.06.13 20:24:00 - [65]

Voting yea.
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Posted - 2008.06.13 20:25:00 - [66]

Edited by: Mhaerdirne Solveig on 13/06/2008 20:26:52
holy god please fix this it is awful and terrible- anyone who has ever been a director of any corp knows all the bull**** evemail you get.

I mean it's as if the president of the united states had one big box on his desk that said "in" on it, and every time some guy that worked at the FBI wanted a pencil it got a piece of mail notifying him about it.
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Posted - 2008.06.13 20:25:00 - [67]

Yes.
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Posted - 2008.06.13 20:25:00 - [68]

I support this product and/or service.
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Posted - 2008.06.13 20:27:00 - [69]

Darious JOHNSON is awesome for bringing this up. If they would have all your sent mails it would be awesome to. If only every character was linked to a gmail acount hahaha.
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Posted - 2008.06.13 20:28:00 - [70]

Yes.
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Posted - 2008.06.13 20:32:00 - [71]

Edited by: Qlanth on 13/06/2008 20:32:07
Yeah, back when that bug hit past December and everyone was receiving evemails it was pretty ridiculous and my corp is probably a tenth of the size of goonfleet.

Supported.
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